AgreeThrow the Bungles in there for the #1 pick.New York GiantsTennesse TitansWashington RedskinsDallas CowboysPittsburgh SteelersWorst 5?Who knows, but you do know that the Lions and Rams are the worst. Let's say the Lions are at the bottom with the Rams slightly ahead. One of those two teams will get the No. 1 overall pick, my money is on the Lions.
Good list. I like Carolina better than Dallas and Pittsburg, but other than that....I don't care about the bottom five, but here's the top ten. 1. NY Giants (4-0)2. Tennessee (5-0)3. Washington (4-1)4. Dallas (4-1)5. Pittsburgh (4-1)6. Carolina (4-1)7. Buffalo (4-1)8. Chicago (3-2)9. Denver (4-1)10. Baltimore (2-2)
I submit that PIT, CAR and BUF should be ahead of Denver. Denver lost to a bad Chiefs team, they barely beat New Orleans, should've lost to San Diego and barely beat Tampa Bay. Denver's offense has been solid, but lately the team as a whole has struggled. They don't deserve a top five spot, IMO.Top 51. New York Giants2. Washington Redskins3. Tennessee Titans4. Dallas Cowboys5. Denver BroncosJust missing - Carolina Panthers, Buffalo Bills, Pittsburgh Steelers, Jacksonville Jaguars
Good points. I can buy that.I submit that PIT, CAR and BUF should be ahead of Denver. Denver lost to a bad Chiefs team, they barely beat New Orleans, should've lost to San Diego and barely beat Tampa Bay. Denver's offense has been solid, but lately the team as a whole has struggled. They don't deserve a top five spot, IMO.Top 51. New York Giants2. Washington Redskins3. Tennessee Titans4. Dallas Cowboys5. Denver BroncosJust missing - Carolina Panthers, Buffalo Bills, Pittsburgh Steelers, Jacksonville Jaguars
I don't agree Andy. They are two Scobee kicks away from being winless. They can't run the ball and they can't stop the pass. That's a bad combination.Top 5
1. New York Giants
2. Washington Redskins
3. Tennessee Titans
4. Dallas Cowboys
5. Denver Broncos
Just missing - Carolina Panthers, Buffalo Bills, Pittsburgh Steelers, Jacksonville Jaguars
Bottom 5
28. Seattle Seahawks
29. Cincinnati Bengals
30. Kansas City Chiefs
31. St. Louis Rams
32. Detroit Lions
Just missing - Oakland Raiders, Houston Texans, Oakland Raiders
That's just how they like it too. I will also add that Houston is arguably the best 0-4 team in quite some time.Panthers are the quietest 4-1 team ever.
They look a lot like the Giants.That's just how they like it too. I will also add that Houston is arguably the best 0-4 team in quite some time.Panthers are the quietest 4-1 team ever.
Hahahahaha...good one!Top 5PatsDallasDenverTennesseeCarolina
Top 5PatsDallasDenverTennesseeCarolina

On their own turf no less.Top 5
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PHI edges out BUF and CAR. DAL is a better team than WAS even though WAS beat them.
Not right now, they are not. Washington is coming off another divisional road win, while the Cowboys just struggled to beat the hapless Bengals...at home. To me, the Redskins are clearly the better team right now.DAL is a better team than WAS even though WAS beat them.
I agree the Skins should be considered better the Cowboys as of now.However, the top consesus pick so far (NYG) also had trouble with the same Bengals yet that is not mentioned.Waaay too stock is put into early season results as we saw last year. Heck, most in this thread just list the top 5 standings as their "Power Ranking".$0.02.Not right now, they are not. Washington is coming off another divisional road win, while the Cowboys just struggled to beat the hapless Bengals...at home. To me, the Redskins are clearly the better team right now.DAL is a better team than WAS even though WAS beat them.
True, but the Giants are undefeated right now, and have won their other three games in fairly convincing fashion. I doubt many will argue with them being considered the best team right now. And maybe too much stock is put into early season results, but I prefer to base my power rankings on how well teams have played, rather than how good I thought teams were gonna be. Many others do not, which is why they often leave some teams that are underachieving (based on their expectations) too high, and some teams that are overachieving (based on their expectations) too low.I agree the Skins should be considered better the Cowboys as of now.However, the top consesus pick so far (NYG) also had trouble with the same Bengals yet that is not mentioned.Waaay too stock is put into early season results as we saw last year. Heck, most in this thread just list the top 5 standings as their "Power Ranking".$0.02.Not right now, they are not. Washington is coming off another divisional road win, while the Cowboys just struggled to beat the hapless Bengals...at home. To me, the Redskins are clearly the better team right now.DAL is a better team than WAS even though WAS beat them.
Which would you consider the better team?Team A:Offense #2 points scored #4 total yardsDefense #17 points allowed #14 total yardsTeam B:Offense #17 points scored #6 total yardsDefense #19 points allowed #13 total yards(which was where these two teams were ranked yesterday before the MNF game)Not right now, they are not. Washington is coming off another divisional road win, while the Cowboys just struggled to beat the hapless Bengals...at home. To me, the Redskins are clearly the better team right now.DAL is a better team than WAS even though WAS beat them.
Can anyone dispute this list?I don't care about the bottom five, but here's the top ten. 1. NY Giants (4-0)2. Tennessee (5-0)3. Washington (4-1)4. Dallas (4-1)5. Pittsburgh (4-1)6. Carolina (4-1)7. Buffalo (4-1)8. Chicago (3-2)9. Denver (4-1)10. Baltimore (2-2)
Team A looks better, based on those stats, but when two teams are 4-1, and one of them won against the other ON THE ROAD, that pretty much settles it. When it comes to assessing teams, winning is what matters the most.Which would you consider the better team?Team A:Offense #2 points scored #4 total yardsDefense #17 points allowed #14 total yardsTeam B:Offense #17 points scored #6 total yardsDefense #19 points allowed #13 total yards(which was where these two teams were ranked yesterday before the MNF game)Not right now, they are not. Washington is coming off another divisional road win, while the Cowboys just struggled to beat the hapless Bengals...at home. To me, the Redskins are clearly the better team right now.DAL is a better team than WAS even though WAS beat them.
I agree the Giants are number 1 (See my rankings above). I'm just saying that it's early and the Power Rankings really don't mean too much in October. Was just trying to illistrate the double standard. That's all.True, but the Giants are undefeated right now, and have won their other three games in fairly convincing fashion. I doubt many will argue with them being considered the best team right now. And maybe too much stock is put into early season results, but I prefer to base my power rankings on how well teams have played, rather than how good I thought teams were gonna be. Many others do not, which is why they often leave some teams that are underachieving (based on their expectations) too high, and some teams that are overachieving (based on their expectations) too low.I agree the Skins should be considered better the Cowboys as of now.However, the top consesus pick so far (NYG) also had trouble with the same Bengals yet that is not mentioned.Waaay too stock is put into early season results as we saw last year. Heck, most in this thread just list the top 5 standings as their "Power Ranking".$0.02.Not right now, they are not. Washington is coming off another divisional road win, while the Cowboys just struggled to beat the hapless Bengals...at home. To me, the Redskins are clearly the better team right now.DAL is a better team than WAS even though WAS beat them.
I can't dispute the top 8 because that's exactly how I have it. I think Wash/Dal are equal. Den/Balt are deserving but I think Tampa/N.O. are knocking on the door. right now I'd say those 4 are a toss up. The Jets will be knocking if they can sweep this stretch of (on paper) easy games coming up.Can anyone dispute this list?I don't care about the bottom five, but here's the top ten. 1. NY Giants (4-0)2. Tennessee (5-0)3. Washington (4-1)4. Dallas (4-1)5. Pittsburgh (4-1)6. Carolina (4-1)7. Buffalo (4-1)8. Chicago (3-2)9. Denver (4-1)10. Baltimore (2-2)
I am basing my opinion on how the teams have performed overall this season (based on stats not record) not on the results of one game. According to the stats DAL is a better team, in reality it probably is a toss up. By no means is WAS "clearly" a better team.Team A looks better, based on those stats, but when two teams are 4-1, and one of them won against the other ON THE ROAD, that pretty much settles it. When it comes to assessing teams, winning is what matters the most.Which would you consider the better team?Team A:Offense #2 points scored #4 total yardsDefense #17 points allowed #14 total yardsTeam B:Offense #17 points scored #6 total yardsDefense #19 points allowed #13 total yards(which was where these two teams were ranked yesterday before the MNF game)Not right now, they are not. Washington is coming off another divisional road win, while the Cowboys just struggled to beat the hapless Bengals...at home. To me, the Redskins are clearly the better team right now.DAL is a better team than WAS even though WAS beat them.
I have a hard time with power rankings because there are real but subtle differences in how people make them. How they're doing right now? Where we expect them to be ranked at the end of the regular season? Who has the best shot at winning the Superbowl? Who would be favored based on a neutral field? I think the Patriots (3-1) would be favored on a neutral field against Baltimore, Buffalo and Chicago. They are still 3-1, and while they haven't beaten anyone great yet, they've really only had one clunker against a team that introduced a new gadget offense against them - one which beat the next team they faced, as well. Cassel looked a lot better after the bye week, and it looks like he may start getting the ball to Moss after the two spent the last two weeks working together. I'm sure it sounds homerish, but I think this is a team that is highly likely to go to the playoffs. It's way too early to tell if Cassel is capable of keeping them in the Superbowl hunt, but Belichick has experience with helping a young guy like this make great strides throughout the season, and he definitely doesn't need to feed the team "humble pie" to keep them motivated this year. I also think Denver would be favored over Buffalo and Chicago in a neutral field matchup. I think I would take Baltimore over Chicago, as well. So I might change the bottom of your top ten to go Carolina, Denver, New England, Buffalo, Chicago, with Baltimore sitting eleventh. As for honorable mentions, I agree with the people who said Houston is better than their 0-4 record. Jacksonville might be the best 2-3 team in the league. They've had three losses, to Pittsburgh, Buffalo and Tennessee. Indy and San Diego deserve mentions if for no other reason than that they're both fully capable of righting their respective ships. Minnesota might only be 2-3 right now, but they got McKinnie back, and we really haven't seen their defense hit full stride yet. And Miami, one trick pony that they might be, just knocked off two good teams in a row on the back of a resurgent running game, a surprisingly decent defense, and a ball control passing game that can hit the occasional home run. That's a good formula for becoming an above average team.Can anyone dispute this list?I don't care about the bottom five, but here's the top ten. 1. NY Giants (4-0)2. Tennessee (5-0)3. Washington (4-1)4. Dallas (4-1)5. Pittsburgh (4-1)6. Carolina (4-1)7. Buffalo (4-1)8. Chicago (3-2)9. Denver (4-1)10. Baltimore (2-2)
Dallas D has played teams with offenses ranked 6, 9, 11, 31 and 32 (total yards).Washington D has played teams with offenses ranked 1, 3, 4, 5, and 9 (total yards).Dallas D is ranked 14, Washington 13 (total yards).Based on who they've played, how can you not rate the Washington D as MUCH better than Dallas?I am basing my opinion on how the teams have performed overall this season (based on stats not record) not on the results of one game. According to the stats DAL is a better team, in reality it probably is a toss up. By no means is WAS "clearly" a better team.Team A looks better, based on those stats, but when two teams are 4-1, and one of them won against the other ON THE ROAD, that pretty much settles it. When it comes to assessing teams, winning is what matters the most.Which would you consider the better team?Team A:Offense #2 points scored #4 total yardsDefense #17 points allowed #14 total yardsTeam B:Offense #17 points scored #6 total yardsDefense #19 points allowed #13 total yards(which was where these two teams were ranked yesterday before the MNF game)Not right now, they are not. Washington is coming off another divisional road win, while the Cowboys just struggled to beat the hapless Bengals...at home. To me, the Redskins are clearly the better team right now.DAL is a better team than WAS even though WAS beat them.
GREAT point.Sylira21 said:Dallas D has played teams with offenses ranked 6, 9, 11, 31 and 32 (total yards).Washington D has played teams with offenses ranked 1, 3, 4, 5, and 9 (total yards).Dallas D is ranked 14, Washington 13 (total yards).Based on who they've played, how can you not rate the Washington D as MUCH better than Dallas?wharf rat said:I am basing my opinion on how the teams have performed overall this season (based on stats not record) not on the results of one game. According to the stats DAL is a better team, in reality it probably is a toss up. By no means is WAS "clearly" a better team.Ghost Rider said:Team A looks better, based on those stats, but when two teams are 4-1, and one of them won against the other ON THE ROAD, that pretty much settles it. When it comes to assessing teams, winning is what matters the most.wharf rat said:Which would you consider the better team?Team A:Offense #2 points scored #4 total yardsDefense #17 points allowed #14 total yardsTeam B:Offense #17 points scored #6 total yardsDefense #19 points allowed #13 total yards(which was where these two teams were ranked yesterday before the MNF game)Not right now, they are not. Washington is coming off another divisional road win, while the Cowboys just struggled to beat the hapless Bengals...at home. To me, the Redskins are clearly the better team right now.DAL is a better team than WAS even though WAS beat them.
I'm sticking with this statement.nobody besides the Giants deserves to be in the top 5 right now.
Losing your starting QB, top kick returner, and 1a. runningback doesn't help.What was really exposed was that the defense isn't very good and that, IMO, the team has less heart than the Tin Man.32. Dallas![]()
Yup.....can't argue with you. Oh and our top CB.Rough day here. I am coming to the realization that 13-3 last year was good fortune and health.This club is gutless.Losing your starting QB, top kick returner, and 1a. runningback doesn't help.What was really exposed was that the defense isn't very good and that, IMO, the team has less heart than the Tin Man.32. Dallas :(