Team Smokin'
Footballguy
Promoting A Brown in a trade. Allen and A Brown for Mahomes. Otherwise, I'll plug in AB into the Flex or WR #3 slot next week. Hoping for top 15 WR ROS.
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WR Antonio Brown, FA (13 Viewers)
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Anarchy99
Footballguy
Yet they have Brady as the QB13. Doesn't add up.
RealReactions
Footballguy
He is living at Bradys house again learning the playbook. Really would not be surprised if he ends this year as a low end WR1
Scooby1974
Footballguy
It's doubtful that Brown (or anyone outside of NE) has ever been around someone as disciplined and intentional as Brady on and off the football field. If AB can't make it with Brady breathing down his neck, he is done for sure. It does make me wonder what his life was like growing up. Did he have anyone telling him NO, teaching him to be disciplined, etc.? Or was he just given a pass because he was just so good?
RealReactions
Footballguy
My hypothetical guess is he grew an ego. He came into the league as a 6th round pick. Didn't start the 1st 2 years on Pittsburg but soon became a star so he probably started humble. He than went on a crazy run which had a hall of fame projection. He was the unquestioned best WR in the league for a while, got a madden cover, and got paid a TON. All of this just built his ego up. Wouldn't be surprised if close friends/family helped build it up as well.
this is just my best guess as I don't see a 6th rounder coming into the league as a rookie with the antics he is now showing and actually staying in the league past a few years.
Scooby1974
Footballguy
A good point. I picked him up in my dynasty football league when another owner gave up on him. He proceeded to BLOW UP the next week or so and we had a great run. I had somewhat forgotten about his more humble beginnings.
habsfan
Footballguy
At some point these "chip on their shoulder" guys need to reset and refocus in order to sustain their success. It sounds pretty stupid when someone with a big contract, a Madden cover, monster stats and who is pretty universally thought of as "the best" is still angry about how disrespected they are and how no one believes in them etc.
Steve Smith carried that with him his whole career. Only now, in retirement, does he seem pretty chill.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
After starting 5-0 and dropping the last three I CANT WAIT to start him next week.
/BartScott
I recall reading that Brown had an awful childhood, poor, and possibly homeless at one point as a teenager. I believe he had a father figure assistant coach from CMU that had stayed involved with him until he passed away in 2018 I think, which kinda coincided with him going off the deep end. I believe he arrived at CMU with all of his possessions in a single bag, flat broke, and on his last chance, and that guy took him under his wing. Again, this is all from memory, but I believe Brown has had a troubled life going back a long time.
This is not to excuse anything he has done, he's been an absolute ******* of late, and should be held accountable. Just adding what I recall reading to give some context to his behavior.
Scooby1974
Footballguy
Thanks, Mene. Our formative years are so very important, and when things are shattered in us as kids and we never take the time to get them mended through counseling, they are very likely to continue to drive us. I agree that Brown has been a fool of late and that he should be held accountable for his sake and for the sake of others. But my heart does go out to him on a deeper level, even at age 32, he very likely needs the stability and mentor ship Brady can offer. It might sound dumb, but perhaps Brady really does see this as a chance to invest in AB's life even beyond the contribution AB could make on a field. I say good on Tom for making this investment in his friend. I sure hope the story has a happy ending................and quite a few long bombs for TD's, because my WR's have been a wreck. haha
rockaction
Footballguy
Interesting page, fellas.
I think Brown balls out and his, Evans's, and Godwin's fantasy values all take hits because of each other. I don't see Tampa Bay running an extra twelve plays per game to make everybody happy. It's really a fixed pie constrained by time, unless they go to a fast break, no huddle type of deal.
I think Brown balls out and his, Evans's, and Godwin's fantasy values all take hits because of each other. I don't see Tampa Bay running an extra twelve plays per game to make everybody happy. It's really a fixed pie constrained by time, unless they go to a fast break, no huddle type of deal.
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
It's like when a kid keeps asking for a dog and finally wears down the parents "Okay, but only if you promise to do all of the work to take care of him".
rockaction
Footballguy
And we know how that always winds up in good families. Parents fall in love with dog, kid does no work regarding said pet, but said pet is still special and his.
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
Pretty much.
ffmail4me
Footballguy
I got into little twitter back and forth last year with both a current NFL scout and an ex-NFL scout regarding AB. Both of them said the reason AB fell in the draft was character concerns. Certainly he did not act like he did at the end with Pittsburgh or his time in Oakland but if they are to be believed he's always had some issues.
One of those scouts, the still current one, said that AB has bi-polar, that the entire league knows about it because it was disclosed in the lead up to his draft.
Probably same reason(s) Wilson wanted him despite having two really good WR's and the Packers tried to sign him as well. Simple as understanding when you got a chance to add arguably the best WR of his generation that it's worth a shot if you think you can get him to buy in.
And due to Brady's time and investment he got him, while two of his conference foes did not.
trader jake
Footballguy
Between Gronk's health issues and injuries to Evans and Godwin already this season...maybe the Bucs already do or will down the stretch.
SproutDaddy
Footballguy
Not sure how you come to this conclusion. They haven't shown to be the best team in the NFL this far.
Agree. Though you don't have to show to be the best team to win the bowl. They have a great defense and a capable offense.
Johnny Utah #9
Footballguy
TB offense looks terrible. Sure looks like Tom could use AB tonight. Assuming Godwin is still out, 10 plus targets incoming for Mr Big Chest in primetime next week.
heckmanm
Footballguy
VikingFrog
Footballguy
The announcers and a sideline reporter were speaking last night about how the league could still come down with more punishment if facts from the case point to a reason to do so. While he looks ready to play, it doesn’t seem he’s completely out of the woods on being allowed, or possibly ending his season early.
Johnny Utah #9
Footballguy
I don’t see the Shield letting its marquee faces (Wilson, Brady, etc) day so publicly fawn over this guy and go to bat so publicly for him if there was still danger of the ban hammer coming down as a result of that case. They already know what they are possibly looking at there. At the end of the day, like it or not, AB on a visible playoff bound team is good for ratings and business. I don’t see Goodell getting in the way of that.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
The announcers are correct that he could in fact face more punishment later.
The misconception I keep seeing that seems to still exist is that his suspension was not related in any way to his sexual assault case. The NFL investigated that case before handing down his suspension, the results of their initial investigation were part of that suspension. What the league is simply saying is if "new" items they did not uncover in their investigation come to light they might suspend him longer but people keep reporting like that investigation/case was not factored in his suspension.
He can of course do what he's almost done a few times and make it all go away if he settles. I certainly understand why he does not want to do that but he'd better be sure he knows what information will come out.
I am not and would not be entirely dismissive this won't be an issue later because if he allows this go to trial and new damaging info comes out he won't see week 15.
Johnny Utah #9
Footballguy
I would be shocked if this case ever gets near a courtroom. I thought it would be settled already at this point. It’s only going to get more expensive from here on out.
RealReactions
Footballguy
The last sentence in that article is music to my earsFaust said:
Pigskin Fanatic
Footballguy
not surprised at all by this. his mental state aside, the dude is a workhorse with his physical conditioning. he's gonna feast until some non-football issue stops him again. i think the court date is first week of december, so enjoy till then and hopefully nothing comes out of that. not just for football because if more comes out that means he was a worse human being that what we already heard. i don't own AB anywhere, but as a football fan i hope he can stick for at least the rest of the year and beyond.Faust said:
DropKick
Footballguy
DropKick
Footballguy
Assume yours is the actual quote... I heard this stated as "AB will get between 10 and 30 snaps" on the radio... crappy reporting.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
I see FBG's cautiously waiting for game 1 and cautiously optimistic for the ROS after this particular game.
What's the difference between week 9 and the rest of the weeks I ask? What does he need to get comfortable?
I gotta believe AB sees at least 6-10 targets every week and 5-8 catches every week. That would put him with a 60-75 yard floor without counting TD's.
The cheat sheets tell to sit him this week, yet my mind says play him over the likes of Jefferson, Claypool, D Johnson, even Swift, Moss, and Gibson in the Flex.
I gotta play him, right. As I have already put him in and out of my starting lineup in two leagues at least 6 times so far LOL.
What's the difference between week 9 and the rest of the weeks I ask? What does he need to get comfortable?
I gotta believe AB sees at least 6-10 targets every week and 5-8 catches every week. That would put him with a 60-75 yard floor without counting TD's.
The cheat sheets tell to sit him this week, yet my mind says play him over the likes of Jefferson, Claypool, D Johnson, even Swift, Moss, and Gibson in the Flex.
I gotta play him, right. As I have already put him in and out of my starting lineup in two leagues at least 6 times so far LOL.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
Source: The Athletic - Greg Auman
Tampa Bay Buccaneers WR Antonio Brown will have an offensive package worked into the game plan for him in Week 9 against the New Orleans Saints, but head coach Bruce Arians suggested Brown's involvement could be as little as 10 plays.
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The Buccaneers are reportedly going to have a package of plays for Brown. His success within that package will determine his playing time in Week 9. Fantasy GMs should look at Brown as a WR4/deep flex play.
**** well, maybe not this week ****
Tampa Bay Buccaneers WR Antonio Brown will have an offensive package worked into the game plan for him in Week 9 against the New Orleans Saints, but head coach Bruce Arians suggested Brown's involvement could be as little as 10 plays.
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The Buccaneers are reportedly going to have a package of plays for Brown. His success within that package will determine his playing time in Week 9. Fantasy GMs should look at Brown as a WR4/deep flex play.
**** well, maybe not this week ****
Helaire-ious
Footballguy
Will Godwin still be out? If so, we're going to see more than 10 plays of AB
Grahamburn
Footballguy
If Godwin is out again I think you could start him fairly confidently.
