You obviously don't understand kenpom.You can come up with fantastic metrics and still have a crappy rating system, which is exactly what he has done. Kind of like only to use results from the NFL combines to rank talent. It gives you interesting insight into some things, but it is not always the best ranking of talent.
Says Michigan fan... you're still not getting it....oh well..moving on....All I know is Kenpom's ranking right now suck. He must have some kind of bad basis left over from last year, because he is grossly over-ranking Wisconsin and grossly under-ranking Michigan. Perhaps later in the season he rankings will make a lot more sense, but as of now it sucks.
Says a fan who watches the games. I realize they are not as good as MSU, OSU, or IU. Michigan is on par with Wisconsin and will finish with a very similar record. Unlike you, I was not shocked at all that MSU went into Wisconsin and beat them on their own floor. MSU is a better team.Says Michigan fan...All I know is Kenpom's ranking right now suck. He must have some kind of bad basis left over from last year, because he is grossly over-ranking Wisconsin and grossly under-ranking Michigan. Perhaps later in the season he rankings will make a lot more sense, but as of now it sucks.
hehehe OK Nostradamus....Says a fan who watches the games. I realize they are not as good as MSU, OSU, or IU. Michigan is on par with Wisconsin and will finish with a very similar record. Unlike you, I was not shocked at all that MSU went into Wisconsin and beat them on their own floor. MSU is a better team.Says Michigan fan...All I know is Kenpom's ranking right now suck. He must have some kind of bad basis left over from last year, because he is grossly over-ranking Wisconsin and grossly under-ranking Michigan. Perhaps later in the season he rankings will make a lot more sense, but as of now it sucks.
I agree that Wisconsin currently being #2 overall in the kenpom rankings is revealing some flaws in the whole equation/system. That is just wrong. Kentucky would beat Wisconsin by 28 points.Says a fan who watches the games. I realize they are not as good as MSU, OSU, or IU. Michigan is on par with Wisconsin and will finish with a very similar record. Unlike you, I was not shocked at all that MSU went into Wisconsin and beat them on their own floor. MSU is a better team.Says Michigan fan...All I know is Kenpom's ranking right now suck. He must have some kind of bad basis left over from last year, because he is grossly over-ranking Wisconsin and grossly under-ranking Michigan. Perhaps later in the season he rankings will make a lot more sense, but as of now it sucks.
espn3.comits live there now...Get this DePaul-Pitt game over already.
The flaw seems to be in terms of margin of victory vs. bad teams.Wisconsin pounded bad teams because they can get open looks all day. They only have one guy (Jordan Taylor) who can create shots against Big Ten defenses.I agree that Wisconsin currently being #2 overall in the kenpom rankings is revealing some flaws in the whole equation/system. That is just wrong. Kentucky would beat Wisconsin by 28 points.
They looked shell shocked early at Assembly Hall...Looking at Michigan's results, I'm not really impressed. They beat Memphis and UCLA in Maui, both big names but neither is having a very good season. Other than that, their best win is Minnesota at home.I haven't seen them play so maybe the eye test says otherwise, but it's not a mystery why a computer would have them at 46.
Nobody is going to beat IU at assembly hall this year.They looked shell shocked early at Assembly Hall...Looking at Michigan's results, I'm not really impressed. They beat Memphis and UCLA in Maui, both big names but neither is having a very good season. Other than that, their best win is Minnesota at home.I haven't seen them play so maybe the eye test says otherwise, but it's not a mystery why a computer would have them at 46.
Speaking of bench, hopefully they will have Sheehey back soon.Hoosiers looking great. Going deep into the bench.
...or next year.Nobody is going to beat IU at assembly hall this year.They looked shell shocked early at Assembly Hall...Looking at Michigan's results, I'm not really impressed. They beat Memphis and UCLA in Maui, both big names but neither is having a very good season. Other than that, their best win is Minnesota at home.I haven't seen them play so maybe the eye test says otherwise, but it's not a mystery why a computer would have them at 46.
Indiana 4 of 6 so far. MSU was effective in taking away the three, but Michigan is giving IU way too many open looks.Will be a good game tonight, but if Michigan let's IU get open threes it will not be that close. IU is deadly from 3-point land.
Anybody who thinks Michigan is 43rd in the country is on dope.Michigan back in the game. They can really shoot 3's and have a couple of guys who can really get to the basket. Gonna be a close game
They look good. Shoot a lot of 3's which makes them dangerous, in this game at least.Anybody who thinks Michigan is 43rd in the country is on dope.Michigan back in the game. They can really shoot 3's and have a couple of guys who can really get to the basket. Gonna be a close game
Mostly Hardaway. The others were a lot more disciplined. Michigan only had 12 turnovers to Indiana 16. What I really don't get IU only taking 3 threes in the second, making 2 of them. They should be putting up 8 or so every half, IMO.Great game by Michigan/IU. Michigan is wild, they shoot like crazy. If they get hot in a game they can do damage.
It will be a long year for Purdue in the Big 10. Too many really good teams in the league.Penn State beat Purdue by 20 points.
Penn State is looking extra special bad, 10 points in the first half vs Saint Joseph...
Penn State beat Purdue by 20 points.
Going to be a rough year. They'll win some tough games, but will probably finish at .500 in the conf and squeak into the tourney.'Garrett said:Penn State beat Purdue by 20 points.
Purdue will be really lucky to finish at .500Going to be a rough year. They'll win some tough games, but will probably finish at .500 in the conf and squeak into the tourney.'Garrett said:Penn State beat Purdue by 20 points.
Hummel's not the same player. Lot's of guys need to develop. However, they are deep so I think they'll play well enough at times to get to the .500 mark. But it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't.Purdue will be really lucky to finish at .500Going to be a rough year. They'll win some tough games, but will probably finish at .500 in the conf and squeak into the tourney.'Garrett said:Penn State beat Purdue by 20 points.
They still have seven conference games left against ranked teams. I doubt they win more than one of those. Purdue is probably good enough to be in the tourney, but they have a tough hill to climb. That Penn State loss was huge one that they could not afford.Hummel's not the same player. Lot's of guys need to develop. However, they are deep so I think they'll play well enough at times to get to the .500 mark. But it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't.Purdue will be really lucky to finish at .500Going to be a rough year. They'll win some tough games, but will probably finish at .500 in the conf and squeak into the tourney.'Garrett said:Penn State beat Purdue by 20 points.
Illinois is not good. Their basketball team reminds me of their football team. Good enough talent to finish in the top portion of the Big Ten, but they can't coach worth a crap. I will be happy as long as Weber stays there. If they hired the right coach they could see an almost IU level resurgence. The Chicago area is absolutely loaded with talent.'jon_mx said:Ohio State pulled away a bit. What surprised me today was Nebraska almost beating Illinois on the road.
Not this year. Top 5 are pretty well set in stone. And see Purdue getting the 6th spot.Illinois is not good. Their basketball team reminds me of their football team. Good enough talent to finish in the top portion of the Big Ten, but they can't coach worth a crap. I will be happy as long as Weber stays there. If they hired the right coach they could see an almost IU level resurgence. The Chicago area is absolutely loaded with talent.'jon_mx said:Ohio State pulled away a bit. What surprised me today was Nebraska almost beating Illinois on the road.