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WR Josh Gordon, KC (11 Viewers)
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BassNBrew
Footballguy
Actually he hasn't done more yards and TDs than any of them individually. Only has Benjamin on the yards by a couple of hundred.
The Frankman
Footballguy
TheFrankman @aTheFrankmanJoint just now
Josh Gordon has been to rehab more than every current NFL head coach combined.
Josh Gordon has been to rehab more than every current NFL head coach combined.
The sarcastic hype in here.
Scooby1974
Footballguy
We got 411 pages "saying otherwise".
The football savior will be here in 5 weeks!!!!!Interseptopus
Footballguy
smh... this thread... this guy...
irish eyes
Footballguy
Can someone just delete this stupid thread....pleeeeaaassse!
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Questions:
Was anybody in front office leadership or on the Browns coaching staff three years ago?
Are the Browns a competent offense?
Do the Browns have a quartback who can get him the ball?
Are you going to start him right out of the gate in the final regular season FF Week?
Knowns:
Succeeded in 2013 primarily on physical dominance because of his rare combination of strength, speed, & agility.
Is not a good route runner.
When he last played (2014) he didn’t know the playbook.
Worth a flyer but personally I’m happy with the production I’m getting out of my current WR corps.
Was anybody in front office leadership or on the Browns coaching staff three years ago?
Are the Browns a competent offense?
Do the Browns have a quartback who can get him the ball?
Are you going to start him right out of the gate in the final regular season FF Week?
Knowns:
Succeeded in 2013 primarily on physical dominance because of his rare combination of strength, speed, & agility.
Is not a good route runner.
When he last played (2014) he didn’t know the playbook.
Worth a flyer but personally I’m happy with the production I’m getting out of my current WR corps.
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NeverEnough
Footballguy
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
Is this the same Josh Gordon who celebrated his last reinstatement by doing drugs at his celebration party?
packer_junkie
Footballguy
The best player in the league is back!!!
packer_junkie
Footballguy
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
Too bad he's still in Cleveland though, the team that desperately needs a better QB but can't be bothered to fill out the paperwork for one.
SkippaDaFlippa
Footballguy
Completely forgot he played pre-season last year. It's just preseason but still alot better than no football at all these past three years. He's still available in my league and I've been on the fence since yesterday. **** it I'm going to pick him up in redraft.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Yep - it’s why I wasted a 6th round pick on him.
it was also preseason. Never read into preseason that much. Especially for a guy who hasn’t seen an NFL DB in a year & a half.
Fever in the Funkhouse
Footballguy
If you bother coming into this thread, and he's still available, you should own him. If you already own him and you're in this thread, you should hold him. I think I cut a guy like perine to pick him up (for the second time this year, and probably fifth time in three years). If there's an ounce of interest in his upside, I'm don't see what's to debate. Take the flyer. Hold.
RenegadeGM
Footballguy
What kind of documentary was this???
Coincidentally, Soulfly bared all when he heard Gordon was reinstated.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Man be stepping foot into the Browns meeting rooms very shortly.
The dark cloud of depression over Berea will soon be filled with sunshine.
Gordon + Coleman + Crow + Duke + Njoku + DeValve = Good offense.
Gordon + Coleman + Crow + Duke + Njoku + DeValve = QB actually has someone to utilize
The dark cloud of depression over Berea will soon be filled with sunshine.
Gordon + Coleman + Crow + Duke + Njoku + DeValve = Good offense.
Gordon + Coleman + Crow + Duke + Njoku + DeValve = QB actually has someone to utilize
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Some would debate the inclusion of the word 'continued'. Not much success with this guy. His life is one of one good year and failure after failure. Better description might be 'Smells like fifth chances and hopefully some maturity and intelligence'
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Mr. Irrelevant
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King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Ok, I am give Josh Gordon one more chance....(record skips)....Ok, I am give Josh Gordon one more chance
Seriously rooting for him as it would be a sweet comeback story. Guy is an alien on the field with rare abilities. I am also curious how the Brown's handle this situation. The uniqueness of the situation seems to be above their paygrade and capabilities to solve. Would love to see him be able to escape to a better environment. Andy Reid seems like the kind of guy that would be willing to take a shot on him. Until resolved I will be dreaming of Mahomes to Gordon. Of course step one is for him to get back on the field again without incident.
Inspire us Josh!
Seriously rooting for him as it would be a sweet comeback story. Guy is an alien on the field with rare abilities. I am also curious how the Brown's handle this situation. The uniqueness of the situation seems to be above their paygrade and capabilities to solve. Would love to see him be able to escape to a better environment. Andy Reid seems like the kind of guy that would be willing to take a shot on him. Until resolved I will be dreaming of Mahomes to Gordon. Of course step one is for him to get back on the field again without incident.
Inspire us Josh!
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Did we expect them to say, "awww #### this guy is back again? " ???iamkoza said:
Why are people always kind of encouraged/surprised to see coaches, teams talk positively about the next man up, or a guy coming to their team, etc?
rockaction
Footballguy
I have him and still contemplating. But think I want off this train. 5 weeks holding a roster spot.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
That's the problem. And then do you feel confident starting him week 1 of the playoffs? I wouldn't. Week 2? I still don't know if I would. Then would you base your championship on it? No way.
Dynasty this is an interesting situation... I dont envy the guy who has him rostered in my league. I think this is just an entertaining situation to watch.
I have the same set of concerns. I believe in his talent. I don’t like the situation. I believe the Browns will move on from him. The trade deadline passed they have no incentive to give him meaningful snaps. Their guy is Coleman who they drafted in the first. And he is servicible enough to develop along with Kizer. I don’t think we are out of the woods. Cleveland is where the same drug connections Josh has. I only feel better about this if I knew the Browns assigned a personal counselor employed full time to guide him.
I would look at him less as a FF starter and more as a high-upside bench stash.
If you get to the FF playoffs, then by definition you have a pretty solid team.
But anything can happen injury-wise toward the end of the season and at that point your roster is pretty well set...can't trade and WW pickups are generally tapped out.
I'm stashing as many guys like Gordon, G. Olsen, D. Henry, A. Rodgers, etc. as my roster will allow.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Yeah but Verlander's girlfriend, Kate Upton is much hotter than Gordon's girlfriend, Soulfly.
habsfan
Footballguy
I get what you're saying and I know you're just listing "for instance" examples but Gordon is different from all of those guys in material ways.
I see Gordon as a distraction. It's hard enough to make weekly waiver decisions that could improve my team incrementally as it is without adding this guy to the mix.
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Soulfly3
Footballguy
NREC34
Footballguy
If they truly want to move on from him and trade him I would think they'd want to showcase him and have him put up a couple of monster games.
It's certainly a fair point but the distraction factor IMO simply translates into a risk assessment. The talent is unquestioned and oppty will likely be there given his competition at WR.
My approach will be to stash, then monitor the practice reports to see how well he's integrating into the locker room. If he's not getting reps or otherwise is a distraction, then jettison and move onto the next WW pre-emptive pickup.
But someone in every league will scoop him up soon (if not already) so it's just one of those decisions that has to be made with incomplete information...
Gordon is on the last year of his rookie deal. In 2018 he is a restricted free agent. The Browns either
1. Let him take offers from other teams and match to keep him.
2. Let him take offers from other teams and apply a tender (basically saying we want you for another year). I doubt they want to keep him for another year. Teams that made Gordon an offer can offer draft picks in return based on the tender.
3. Let him take offers from other teams and let him walk.
4. Resign him to a multi year deal.
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matttyl
Footballguy
Has this been verified? Don't you need 6 games in a season for it to count? He'll only have 5 if he returns week 13.
The games which he is suspended he won't get paid forfeiting the amount from his deal.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/josh-gordon-11012/
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matttyl
Footballguy
http://wncx.cbslocal.com/2017/11/02/nfl-reinstates-suspended-browns-wr-josh-gordon-on-conditional-basis/
"The NFL’s collective bargaining agreement stipulates that 6 games counts as an accrued season, but according to the timeline laid out by the commissioner, the maximum number of games Gordon can play this season would be 5 meaning his contract will toll an additional season for the Browns and he won’t be eligible to become a restricted free agent until 2019. He is scheduled to make $1.068 million in 2018."
