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Tannehill's upside (1 Viewer)
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TripleThreat
Footballguy
My bet is that Tannehill won't see the field until week 12 at Indy, after the bye.
TripleThreat
Footballguy
Confirmed... he has a capsule injury.
Chris Kouffman broke this down yesterday as a possibility...
https://twitter.com/ckparrot/status/1058012623914983425
all those sacks finally caught up to him.
Chris Kouffman broke this down yesterday as a possibility...
https://twitter.com/ckparrot/status/1058012623914983425
all those sacks finally caught up to him.
TripleThreat
Footballguy
Tannehill had a press conference yesterday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H5jPpXwkoo
In addition to his capsule issue, it's reported that he has a labral tear (the pain he mentions is one of the clues).
My personal feelings on Tannehill for Miami is he's not the issue and not the answer. When his OL has been good he's done well, sadly his OL hasn't been good on a consistent basis.
In addition to his capsule issue, it's reported that he has a labral tear (the pain he mentions is one of the clues).
I'm not sure we'll see him again this year and 50/50 whether he starts a game for Miami again.
My personal feelings on Tannehill for Miami is he's not the issue and not the answer. When his OL has been good he's done well, sadly his OL hasn't been good on a consistent basis.
babydemon90
Footballguy
Pretty much. He's not bad. He's not great. He's basically a slightly better Andy Dalton.
Todem
Footballguy
The main issue with Tannehill as a QB is his lack of feel in the pocket. The ability to feel and sense pressure is paramount for a chance at success in the NFL and he simply has never progressed that part of his game to take him to the next level (and his footwork also is sub par). And that probably comes from his lack of experience. We are talking about a guy who did not play QB until what....his 3rd year of college? That is a tough thing to develop. Also he is not very good at going through his progressions...too often he locks onto one target. He also does not use his safety valves nearly enough....again..lack of feel.
He is not bad. But he is a big disappointment considering where we drafted him. At least us Dolphin fans can say he was probably the best QB we have had since Marino. That’s about it. Fielder had a decent run too.
Also the fact he has been through so many coaching staff’s, and OC’s does not help matters either.
He is not bad. But he is a big disappointment considering where we drafted him. At least us Dolphin fans can say he was probably the best QB we have had since Marino. That’s about it. Fielder had a decent run too.
Also the fact he has been through so many coaching staff’s, and OC’s does not help matters either.
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fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
He’s terrible.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
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saintfool
Dead sexy
Where are the obvious openings? Miami, Jacksonville, Denver, and Washington. I see both Giants and Titans bringing in someone to compete with current starters. Dalton is fine but they should look at a rookie to groom after him.
squistion
Footballguy
ffmail4me
Footballguy
I'm not sure he is, but even if so, he's going to be cut. Why would anyone give up even a 7th rounder for him?
Man In The Box
Footballguy
GMs do dumb things all the time. No reason not to see if you can find one dumb enough to give up something for him before you cut him.
Mr. Irrelevant
IBL Representative
Ryan Tannehill's cap number for next season is $26,611,666. I would not have believed that myself if I didn't read it on two independent sources.
Anyone who agrees to give up anything of value whatsoever for the ability to pay Ryan Tannehill the league's 6th-highest cap figure next season leaves "dumb" so far behind you couldn't see it with a telescope.
Mr. Irrelevant
IBL Representative
I originally thought his entire '19 cap hit would apply if he was cut / traded but it looks now like that's not the case. Spotrac calls it an $18.75M cap hit while OTC says $13.4M in '19 and it's not clear (to me at least) that TEN is on the hook for any of that.
If so and the Titans are only out the equivalent of a 5th-rounder and $7M (which is roughly the average salary for a serviceable backup QB anyway) then I don't hate the move for them. And there was no way the Fins were paying this dude $27M next year so what else were they gonna do?
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Miami is tanking, they pony up for Murray or Haskins or wait a year.
Well Tannehill while a bust, has a smoking hot wife and he will be a clip board holder in the NFL for 5 more years probably
foxco
Footballguy
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Nah, it's just the un-allocated signing bonus pro-rate on trades. Any future money (salary, roster bonus) goes to the new team. Looks like OTC is caught up now, they show $13.4M too.
Cutting a player causes the pro-rate to accelerate but adds on any remaining guaranteed money. So that's why a guy like Borles dead money includes an extra $6.5M.
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[scooter]
Footballguy
They've got remarkably similar career stats:
Completion Percentage:
Mariota: 63.2%
Tannehill: 62.8%
TD-INT ratio:
Mariota: 1.64-1
Tannehill: 1.64-1
TD %:
Mariota: 4.3%
Tannehill: 4.3%
INT %:
Mariota: 2.6%
Tannehill: 2.6%
YPA:
Mariota: 7.5
Tannehill: 7.0
Passer Rating:
Mariota: 89.4
Tannehill: 87.0
W-L %:
Mariota: .491
Tannehill: .477
Of course, that doesn't account for rushing numbers (where Mariota has a clear edge). Also, Mariota has had a QBR above 53 every season, whereas Tannehill has only been above 53 once in 6 years.
Nonetheless, I do believe that the Titans didn't just acquire Tannehill to be a journeyman clipboard holder. This is Mariota's make-or-break season -- if he fails to progress, or if he misses a significant number of games (and Tannehill plays well in his absence), then do not be surprised if the Titans move on from Mariota and just keep Tannehill while they retool.
saintfool
Dead sexy
Mariota hasn't played a full season, right? Tannehill should get an opportunity to show whatever his stuff is as a result. He'll sling it more than Mariota did last year - for good or ill - because he's that kind of QB. Mariota just doesn't look comfortable in that offense, imo, and that creates an opening for a player Tannehill that is looking to stay relevant. TN has talent in the passing game to pair with right QB. Mariota could step up as a passer but he hasn't in 2 years it seems. Tannehill may just be a victim of Gase more than anything.
[scooter]
Footballguy
Mariota played 12 games his rookie year, and then played 15/15/14. He's played in 92% of his team's games in the past 3 seasons.
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saintfool
Dead sexy
surprising considering he finished 27th in attempts despite playing 3 more games than Tannehill (despite the comparable YPG). they're different offenses for sure but Tannehill's numbers suggest, to me, that he's a better passer. That's not the same as a better QB but still....
