You mean the series that includes a one use smoke monster assassin baby?Really GoT? Time travel paradoxes?
I wouldn't worry about. 75% of this thread is full of whiners complaining about one of the best shows ever. They knocked it out of the park with this ep. Qualityi guess I'm not getting the hate. I thought that episode was crazy and awesome.
I disagree. What has he changed? Our perspective has always been Hodor saying Hodor.They are setting up the fact that Bran can change the past, he's not just limited to being a passive visitor. Not sure how he's going to use that ability in the future exactly but they are clearly setting up his ability to reach back and alter something.
Why has he always been saying Hodor?I disagree. What has he changed? Our perspective has always been Hodor saying Hodor.
Isn't it more about the idea that Brandon can change or alter the past than the secret origin of Hodor?Like a lot of the other episodes this season, I really liked some stuff, but mostly felt meh. For me a lot of it is the sequence of the scenes. They seem to start on stuff that I love and am interested in, and then peter out to stuff that I just find bad. Don't get the love for the ending. Some of the stuff in the cave looked like Jason and the Argonauts, and what we find out Hodor means is just silly.
Love the stuff with Sansa and Littlefinger (even though I can't believe she is still stupid enough to listen to him). Of course the look Tormund gives to Brianne again was And I really liked the exchange between Red Witch 2 and Varys, but other than that nothing really stands out to me.
It appears that they changed their minds without revising the script...though it is possible, that the group is headed one place, and Brienne will break away and head for the river lands.I thought Brienne was going to see Badfish for Sansa but then Sansa and John and others left. What did I not pay attention to this time?
Jon mentioned other Northern Lords. I think he's going there and Brienne is going to meet the Blackfish.I thought Brienne was going to see Badfish for Sansa but then Sansa and John and others left. What did I not pay attention to this time?
lol, those aren't real.Really GoT? Time travel paradoxes?
I generally like most of what the show has done. But that episode fell flat to me. And someone has to help bran and meera no way they outrun that hordeI wouldn't worry about. 75% of this thread is full of whiners complaining about one of the best shows ever. They knocked it out of the park with this ep. Quality
I think we have been saying that she is going to be stone cold since we saw her take out those dudes with the Mountain.Not sure in what aspect she'll be stone cold - definitely not as an assassin. This episode more or less advanced the idea that she's never going to be "no one".
ETA: sick of watching her stick fighting too. her story is getting tired.
Im guessing they find a hiding spot or someone intervenes. Perhaps jon snow on his way to the other houses in the north?I generally like most of what the show has done. But that episode fell flat to me. And someone has to help bran and meera no way they outrun that horde
wrong side of the WallIm guessing they find a hiding spot or someone intervenes. Perhaps jon snow on his way to the other houses in the north?
How would they do that, without ravens? Jon also wants to meet other family heads.Can't believe they are dumb enough to walk into a Littlefinger trap. Yep, wouldn't want to verify that the Blackfish is really alive or anything....
Would it be more interesting if everybody just came in and loved everything about everything on the show? If I didn't still like it, I wouldn't watch it. Doesn't mean that I agree that it is still at it's peak or that this episode was great overall.I wouldn't worry about. 75% of this thread is full of whiners complaining about one of the best shows ever. They knocked it out of the park with this ep. Quality
I'm with you. I didn't think this episode was very good at all.after a season of awesome. That was a terrible episode
I will admit I was too far into my vodka and misread what was going on there. I thought all were going to Riverrun, but yeah, more likely still just Brienne as Jon and co. talk to the other houses.How would they do that, without ravens? Jon also wants to meet other family heads.
It's like a time paradox. Didn't make sense but similar to terminator. I don't even bother trying to understand it. He technically didn't go back in time. He was just having a vision. And in the midst of that vision he warged into both versions of Hodor at the same time.Ok, I'll say it. Could someone please try to explain the whole Hodor thing? I just don't get it.
So he goes back in time and wargs into hodor while back in time causing him to become what he is?
If he doesn't go there this never happens?
Just lost on that whole thing now
NoSo is the old guy actually Bran?
So these tree people make the white walkers, do we know how they lost control of them?
Ah, but this episode we see that she is better at fighting without the stick too!!That other girl is better at fighting with a stick than Arya.
WE GET IT
Same here.... I was wondering.... ok, great Hodor is Hodoring but he can't do that forever. So, like the Children of the Forest, the sacrifice buys them some more time. So.... now what? There has to be more or else that is kinda dumb.I think they missed the chance to burn the tree/cave while Hodor was Hodoring. Would have made the sacrifice meaningful. As it is now, Bran/Meera have a seemingly meaningless head start. I kept expecting flames. But I am not getting the hate for the episode.
Thought the same thing after watching. This episode wasn't close to the best in a while. Good episode, but the WWs versus the Wilding episode was far better than this one. Hodor's nice and all (although some in here think he's transcendent), but standing in slippery snow and he can hold back hundreds of wights pushing on the door?Really?https://yadi.sk/i/bH5W2U0Rru9Ug
Saw this weeks episode at this link. Didn't cause any problems for my computer. Best episode since Oberyn vs the Mountain.
It obviously has to do with the vision since he warged into Hodor before. This time, he was in a vision state and warged which obviously totally messed with Hodor to the point all he could say was hold the door which morphed into Hodor.Ok, I'll say it. Could someone please try to explain the whole Hodor thing? I just don't get it.
So he goes back in time and wargs into hodor while back in time causing him to become what he is?
If he doesn't go there this never happens?
Just lost on that whole thing now
Time is a flat circle...I dont understand the Hodor story. Hodor was mind ####ed by Bran time traveling? That dont make no sense.
The alternative is they show everyone standing around like Dany for episodes, or even seasons, at a time. I prefer they take liberties with the time it takes to get from A to B.The characters seem to travel at record pace this season. Sansa and Theon left winterfell, got to castle black/iron island. Littlefinger left eyre and got to the place he met sansa (I forgot the location they said) all seemingly in days.
A couple seasons back, Samwise found a buried stash of special weapons, I think they were constructed of black onyx or something. He gave those weapons to Bran & Co. when they set out to go north of the wall. Sam himself had killed a WW with one of them, so he figured out what they were for.Thought the same thing after watching. This episode wasn't close to the best in a while. Good episode, but the WWs versus the Wilding episode was far better than this one. Hodor's nice and all (although some in here think he's transcendent), but standing in slippery snow and he can hold back hundreds of wights pushing on the door?
Also, how did Bran's friend (I forgot her name) kill the WW? Was the spear tipped with something and should we have known that?
I was thinking last night, at the way they pace this thing Euron will have his thousand ships built and be sailing into Meereen by next week.The characters seem to travel at record pace this season. Sansa and Theon left winterfell, got to castle black/iron island. Littlefinger left eyre and got to the place he met sansa (I forgot the location they said) all seemingly in days.
At this point I would just rather see a main character stay dead.I'm assuming we'll see White Walker Hodor at some point, right?
If Jack Bauer can get from Canoga Park to Irvine in 10 minutes, then Theon can get from the north to his homeland in a couple episodes.The alternative is they show everyone standing around like Dany for episodes, or even seasons, at a time. I prefer they take liberties with the time it takes to get from A to B.
My guess is one of the two fleets gets stranded in the North, and the White Walkers and undead take over the ships.Yara and Theon beating uncle to the punch and going heading to Mereen to seek an alliance with Dany?