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You could be right although he did complete 68.9 percent of his passes in college so it is not as if he can't at least throw semi accurate and not just toss ups to Evans. And it is not as if he has a hitch in his throw or a bad throwing motion ala Tim Tebow.
Why do you compare him to Wilson? Wilson has a bigger build, is way more intellegent, has a better arm and his leadership abilities are legendary. Not fair to Johnny to compare him to Wilson.Carter_Can_Fly said:
Wilson got a 28 on the Wonderlic; Manziel got a 32.
Bias against short people - if he was 6-4, 230 he would have been much less hated. No one likes an arrogant short guy, especially when he plays a position dominated by tall guys.
Manziel is listed at 6' 207
He posted their height and weight to counter your argument that Wilson was bigger.
I really don't think this is that outlandish of a comment.
Good stuff
Emphatically disagree.I really don't think this is that outlandish of a comment.
I would rather have Mariota but it is not as if Manziel is that far behind in terms of becoming a viable starting QB.
I really don't think this is that outlandish of a comment.
I would rather have Mariota but it is not as if Manziel is that far behind in terms of becoming a viable starting QB.
it's almost like nobody saw him play last year.I really don't think this is that outlandish of a comment.I would rather have Mariota but it is not as if Manziel is that far behind in terms of becoming a viable starting QB.
He had 35 pass attempts last year which is hardly enough to determine much of anything. To be honest he should not have even had 1 pass attempt. He came into the league with the wrong attitude and selfish attitude and I really think he thought in his own head he would be successful like he was in college based on pure athleticism. He was also still in college party mode and had not made the transfer that being an NFL qb is a full time job that takes time, commitment and hard work.it's almost like nobody saw him play last year.I really don't think this is that outlandish of a comment.I would rather have Mariota but it is not as if Manziel is that far behind in terms of becoming a viable starting QB.
Why is this so comical?I really don't think this is that outlandish of a comment.
I would rather have Mariota but it is not as if Manziel is that far behind in terms of becoming a viable starting QB.
It isn't but this way they don't have to come up with reason other then Johnny is a DB.Why is this so comical?I really don't think this is that outlandish of a comment.I would rather have Mariota but it is not as if Manziel is that far behind in terms of becoming a viable starting QB.
Nobody with the faintest clue about professional football could possibly believe Manziel has a snowball's chance in hell to cut it as a backup QB, much less a starter, much, much less a "viable" one.It isn't but this way they don't have to come up with reason other then Johnny is a DB.Why is this so comical?I really don't think this is that outlandish of a comment.I would rather have Mariota but it is not as if Manziel is that far behind in terms of becoming a viable starting QB.
Whole lot of dumb people out there making a living scouting football players if that's the case -- because literally not one single scouting report last year concluded that he shouldn't be drafted at all. Not one. He was a consensus late 1st / 2nd round prospect.Nobody with the faintest clue about professional football could possibly believe Manziel has a snowball's chance in hell to cut it as a backup QB, much less a starter, much, much less a "viable" one.It isn't but this way they don't have to come up with reason other then Johnny is a DB.Why is this so comical?I really don't think this is that outlandish of a comment.I would rather have Mariota but it is not as if Manziel is that far behind in terms of becoming a viable starting QB.
Sooner or later, you've got to have more to hang your hat on than a nickname and some big college numbers playing a style of football that doesn't translate. That this bandwagon still exists is one of the most laughable things in all of fandom.
He a new man
Just read on PFT that he didn't even hit the guy, they were apparently "buddies" and Manziel was taking to security at the event about the situation. Sometimes police work security on their days off to make some extra cash, so maybe that's how the police got involved?
That is Cleveland Brown's beat writer Tony Grossi's negative take on Manziel. He consistently has a ton of negative things to say about the Browns in general so take it with a grain of salt.
He gives a pretty specific reason as to why. The Browns want a game manager not someone who improvises on the fly.
These quotes from the players are all requoted from other articles that were "positive" spin for Manziel.
According to him. Pretty obvious he needed something to write about... so he wrote stuff.
He is doing a recap from the OTA's on what he and others saw. Did you even read both of the articles? Are you denying that the Browns dont want a game manager over "improvise on the fly" type QB?
These are the QBs Defilippo has coached (QBs coach all years):
Others?
