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On 4/26/2021 at 2:16 PM, Ilov80s said:

@Capella illustrates  a good point about reserving too much conviction over these Oscar awards. People complain about who won what and what deserved to win but we aren't always good at answering that question in real time. It takes 5-10-15 years for these opinions to really crystallize. The Artist for example won Best Picture at almost every major award show and was universally loved. Within a year or 2 of winning,  everyone flipped their opinions and it's now often ranked as one of the least deserving winners. American Beauty was something everyone was talking about and seemed to really capture the zeitgeist of 1999-2000. If a 20 year old watches that movie now, they will be like "what the creepy #### is this?" Then you had movies like Citizen Kane, It's a Wonderful Like and basically Hitchcock's entire filmography that were recognized at the time but certainly not pegged as the best movies ever made or anything historic. It was decades later than people came around to them as being truly special. 

Not too different than how we and the media just NFL draft classes the day after the draft when things tend to look a lot different 5 years later. 

This is well said. I do think there are some ridiculous examples that even in the context of their time period, the decisions were terrible. Do The Right Thing was very highly thought of even upon its initial release, and it wasn't even nominated in a year that saw the white-friendly Driving Miss Daisy win best picture. 

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25th Anniversary of Fargo's release date was Monday. Watched it again last night for the umpteenth time. I still noticed new things. Marge Gunderson is one of cinema's all-time best heroes. 

You know those movies aren't really about him, right?

Finally got around to seeing The Accountant.  I will preface this comment by stating that I am not a Ben Affleck fan at all.  The only two movies I liked him in were Dazed and Confused and Good Will H

1 minute ago, jdoggydogg said:

This is well said. I do think there are some ridiculous examples that even in the context of their time period, the decisions were terrible. Do The Right Thing was very highly thought of even upon its initial release, and it wasn't even nominated in a year that saw the white-friendly Driving Miss Daisy win best picture. 

Yep, the Oscars get wrong a lot. The public is wrong a lot. It's hard to predict how time will impact perspective on movies. 

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(I know there's probably a new film thread, but I'm too lazy to look for that.)

Loved seeing a movie in a theater for the first time in 14 months. Fans of John Wick or Atomic Blonde will probably like this movie. Funny, good fight choreography, and it even manages some interesting innovations in the genre. I know the thought that comedian Bob Odenkirk doing an action film seems weird. But the reason it works for me is we've been trained to associate ex military types with huge guys like Arnold and Stallone. But if you've ever met any special forces guys, some of them can really blend into a crowd. Liked the movie a lot. Fun time at the movies. 

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Just now, Ilov80s said:

Yep, the Oscars get wrong a lot. The public is wrong a lot. It's hard to predict how time will impact perspective on movies. 

Oh definitely. After all, Rolling Stone hated Led Zeppelin in 1972, and now several of the band's albums appear on RS's all time greatest albums list. 

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Just now, jdoggydogg said:

Oh definitely. After all, Rolling Stone hated Led Zeppelin in 1972, and now several of the band's albums appear on RS's all time greatest albums list. 

Yes and looking at the highest charting songs from year to year reveal the public often has terrible taste in music. It's a weird thing though how something can seem so great at the time and totally fall apart in a couple years. 

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14 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

Yes and looking at the highest charting songs from year to year reveal the public often has terrible taste in music. It's a weird thing though how something can seem so great at the time and totally fall apart in a couple years. 

Pop music (and I do enjoy pop music) is ephemeral. It's a duel-edged sword: on one hand, it is easily accessible and instantly likeable, but the more challenging and difficult music is the thing that survives. 

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2 minutes ago, jdoggydogg said:

Pop music (and I do enjoy pop music) is ephemeral. It's a duel-edged sword: on one hand, it is easily accessible and instantly likeable, but the more challenging and difficult music is the thing that survives. 

:grad:

I think that is probably true though it is still even more complicated than that. I still think there are some difficult to describe qualities that make one Hot 100 pop song timeless and makes another become cringeworthy. 

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33 minutes ago, jdoggydogg said:

Pop music (and I do enjoy pop music) is ephemeral. It's a duel-edged sword: on one hand, it is easily accessible and instantly likeable, but the more challenging and difficult music is the thing that survives. 

:grad:

Funny you mention music because the music in Nobody was pretty much perfect and added another layer to the movie

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1 hour ago, Ilov80s said:

I think that is probably true though it is still even more complicated than that. I still think there are some difficult to describe qualities that make one Hot 100 pop song timeless and makes another become cringeworthy. 

Now we're getting into the molecular level of music. 

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51 minutes ago, CGRdrJoe said:

Funny you mention music because the music in Nobody was pretty much perfect and added another layer to the movie

I liked the music. I didn't find it particularly original, but the tone of the music was a nice, funny contrast to the action on screen. 

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Watched the Elizabeth Moss Invisible Man movie from last year. It was fine. Probably would have made a great theater date movie. Has absolutely no connection at all to the original other than a man being invisible. 

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3 hours ago, El Floppo said:

Don't bother with Stowaway.

But... Anna Kendrick. No?

Yes. Cast is fine. Story isn't worth your time. Trust me here. 

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3 hours ago, El Floppo said:

Don't bother with Stowaway.

Agree unfortunately

Premise had promise and the actors were fine with the roles they had but the decisions, choices, actions of the characters and what seemed to me the lack of weight concerning those decisions made me say" really??"on more than a couple occasions.

 

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15 hours ago, Ilov80s said:

Watched the Elizabeth Moss Invisible Man movie from last year. It was fine. Probably would have made a great theater date movie. Has absolutely no connection at all to the original other than a man being invisible. 

Liked this alot. Wife thought it was okay. I still reccomend. 

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12 hours ago, Joe Schmo said:

lack of weight

Apt. 

Just didn't go anywhere or create any sense of pacing or interest in the characters or their decisions. I genuinely didn't care what was going on...the writers, editor and director didn't do this story any favors. And especially with the cheap oh no sun storm deus ex machina plot device moment.  And even the premise wasn't anything new or interesting imo.

 

And speaking of weightless, that was centrifugal force creating the gravity on their climb/descent, right? Otherwise, huh?

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6 hours ago, KarmaPolice said:

Uh, how much did Speed score in the movie draft? :oldunsure:

(It was probably too many points) 

That was a movie that aged badly....as I originally sat watching it in the theater.

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7 hours ago, KarmaPolice said:

Uh, how much did Speed score in the movie draft? :oldunsure:

(It was probably too many points) 

 

1 hour ago, El Floppo said:

That was a movie that aged badly....as I originally sat watching it in the theater.

Interesting, I will have to rewatch it but when I last saw it 5 or so years ago it was still great. A bit cheesy ofcourse but it's an action movie so that is to be expected. 

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1 hour ago, Ilov80s said:
9 hours ago, KarmaPolice said:

Uh, how much did Speed score in the movie draft? :oldunsure:

(It was probably too many points) 

 

3 hours ago, El Floppo said:

That was a movie that aged badly....as I originally sat watching it in the theater.

Interesting, I will have to rewatch it but when I last saw it 5 or so years ago it was still great. A bit cheesy ofcourse but it's an action movie so that is to be expected. 

:goodposting:  .. I still enjoy it, but watch it more in the realm of a "Comic Book to Movie" .. It is sooooo over the top with the dialogue at times that you just have to roll with it and laugh..

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Pop quiz, hotshot. There's a bomb on a bus. Once the bus goes 50 miles an hour, the bomb is armed. If it drops below 50, it blows up. What do you do? What do you do?

 

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On 4/29/2021 at 6:21 AM, El Floppo said:

Don't bother with Stowaway.

Yeah, not what I was expecting. Wife was bored. I was waiting for action as well. Ended horribly. 

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31 minutes ago, identikit said:

Just watched Tenet.

I have a headache.

Just finished. Agreed. I mean I enjoyed the hell out of it but I have barely a clue of what happened. I mean I do, but ...uh...

I wish I could tell you about plot holes but... uh....

So driving forward, while in the past but in reverse.... uh...

Gonna hit up YouTube to see if somebody can explain some of it to me. 

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On 4/29/2021 at 4:07 AM, Ilov80s said:

Watched the Elizabeth Moss Invisible Man movie from last year. It was fine. Probably would have made a great theater date movie. Has absolutely no connection at all to the original other than a man being invisible. 

I mostly enjoyed it. Not great, but worth a casual watch. 

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Having re-watched the entire first series of Twin Peaks and mostly loving it, it decided to re-watch the film Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me. Oh lord, was that awful. I couldn't even finish it.  

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Anybody else watching Mosquito Coast on Apple? It's on ep2 and is compelling enough so far...feels like Captain Fantastic (Vigo) meets Sicario meets... dunno. Compelling enough so far.

 

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8 hours ago, jdoggydogg said:

Having re-watched the entire first series of Twin Peaks and mostly loving it, it decided to re-watch the film Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me. Oh lord, was that awful. I couldn't even finish it.  

i re-watched the original series before watching the reboot when it first came out, enjoyed it as well - adjusting for lack of surprise factor - and thrilled to the reboot, but STILL couldnt abide Fire Walk With Me

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16 hours ago, wikkidpissah said:

i re-watched the original series before watching the reboot when it first came out, enjoyed it as well - adjusting for lack of surprise factor - and thrilled to the reboot, but STILL couldnt abide Fire Walk With Me

I started the reboot and didn't enjoy it. But so many trusted friends liked the reboot it makes me want to give it another shot. 

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Casting issues aside, West Side Story is such an incredible production. Not sure what Spielberg and Co. are thinking remaking this. That trailer looked awful. 

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2 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

Casting issues aside, West Side Story is such an incredible production. Not sure what Spielberg and Co. are thinking remaking this. That trailer looked awful. 

Floppinhos classmate is in it. I know they filmed all over the hood too. We're all in on this one.

Big fan of the original- seems like the reboot is set in the same era with the same songs?

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5 minutes ago, El Floppo said:

Floppinhos classmate is in it. I know they filmed all over the hood too. We're all in on this one.

Big fan of the original- seems like the reboot is set in the same era with the same songs?

Looked like the same era and I can't imagine you change the songs. How do you come up with better music than WSS? I guess they did scrap the original snappy choreography so who knows, maybe Maria and America will be replaced by new EDM numbers. 

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16 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

Casting issues aside, West Side Story is such an incredible production. Not sure what Spielberg and Co. are thinking remaking this. That trailer looked awful. 

Yeah, this seems terrible.

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10 minutes ago, krista4 said:

Yeah, this seems terrible.

I'm not against classics being remade. WSS just seems like such a perfect execution of something that doesn't really translate as is to 2020. You could remake the idea of it with updated music and really modernize it. But to stick with the songs, era and all that, just seems like an impossible bar to clear. 

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On 4/27/2021 at 9:03 PM, jdoggydogg said:

Nobody

(I know there's probably a new film thread, but I'm too lazy to look for that.)

Loved seeing a movie in a theater for the first time in 14 months. Fans of John Wick or Atomic Blonde will probably like this movie. Funny, good fight choreography, and it even manages some interesting innovations in the genre. I know the thought that comedian Bob Odenkirk doing an action film seems weird. But the reason it works for me is we've been trained to associate ex military types with huge guys like Arnold and Stallone. But if you've ever met any special forces guys, some of them can really blend into a crowd. Liked the movie a lot. Fun time at the movies. 

Saw this tonight and loved it.  I think I actually liked it better than John Wick.  Very well done for a movie in that genre.

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26 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

I'm not against classics being remade. WSS just seems like such a perfect execution of something that doesn't really translate as is to 2020. You could remake the idea of it with updated music and really modernize it. But to stick with the songs, era and all that, just seems like an impossible bar to clear. 

You should be!! 

;) 

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4 minutes ago, KarmaPolice said:

You should be!! 

;) 

There have been some good examples, right?

Ben-Hur, multiple versions of A Star is Born, Scarface, Magnificent 7 (60s one based Seven Samurai), Invastion of the Body Snatchers. Though most of those weren't quite on the same level as West Side Story. I am sure the list of terrible remakes is longer though. 

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17 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

There have been some good examples, right?

Ben-Hur, multiple versions of A Star is Born, Scarface, Magnificent 7 (60s one based Seven Samurai), Invastion of the Body Snatchers. Though most of those weren't quite on the same level as West Side Story. I am sure the list of terrible remakes is longer though. 

There are some good ones, yes.   The Thing is another one.  

Mostly joking, but yeah - the list of terrible remakes is a hell of a lot longer than good ones.  

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1 minute ago, KarmaPolice said:

There are some good ones, yes.   The Thing is another one.  

Mostly joking, but yeah - the list of terrible remakes is a hell of a lot longer than good ones.  

Yeah, though not sure I would call the original Thing a classic. I like it but it's pretty silly. 

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True Grit?  I didn't see the remake but think it was well received.

Yeah, hard to think of many "classics" that were remade well.

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5 minutes ago, krista4 said:

True Grit?  I didn't see the remake but think it was well received.

Yeah, hard to think of many "classics" that were remade well.

Good one, remake was really fun. 

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9 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

Yeah, though not sure I would call the original Thing a classic. I like it but it's pretty silly. 

lol, fair.  I guess I read classic more as "old", not actually good.  

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