i edited my post but you ninja-quoted it first
Green Bay. town of 100k, give or take. it never really occurred to me that there were people here who viewed where i lived as "ghetto" or "sketchy" or inaccessible. i grew up hearing it but never imagined it to be true. i mean, to get out of the city limits in any direction is a 10 minute drive. there are people just outside the city border who either have never been downtown or only go there begrudgingly.
it's incredibly safe here but...... different strokes for different folks, i guess.