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Just now, deadlyrange0321 said:

12 team PPR, 1QB 1RB 1WR 1TE 4FLEX

Team A trades:

Aaron Jones


Team B trades:

1.02

Definitely 1.2...Jones is a known quantity but he will be 27 in December and you are lucky to cash out this high.

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22 minutes ago, King of the Jungle said:

Love those types of deals to get a future first.  Quantity for a chance for quality.

I prefer the players in this one.  Fuller is arguably worth a late first by himself and Henry and Mostert are each worth a 2.  

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11 minutes ago, ChuckLiddell said:

I prefer the players in this one.  Fuller is arguably worth a late first by himself and Henry and Mostert are each worth a 2.  

I wouldn’t pay a first for Fuller but maybe I am in the minority. I just don’t see Fuller hitting his peak value again....certainly not with Tua. Now he may move on to a more favorable situation after this year however you also have to factor his extensive history of injuries. Mostert and Henry don’t move my needle at all and would be looking to unload them if I did own them.

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3 minutes ago, King of the Jungle said:

I wouldn’t pay a first for Fuller but maybe I am in the minority. I just don’t see Fuller hitting his peak value again....certainly not with Tua. Now he may move on to a more favorable situation after this year however you also have to factor his extensive history of injuries. Mostert and Henry don’t move my needle at all and would be looking to unload them if I did own them.

I can see all of your points and wouldnt argue with any of them.  Fuller's deal in Miami is one year though, and regarding Tua (while getting totally off track)...I dont think the FFB community is being fair to him at all.  Dude was coming off a terrible injury, had no offseason/preseason - as a rookie QB, and had a sub-par OL and weapons to work with.  QB us a tough position - especially given those obstacles.  I think he will be fine, and if he isnt, Fuller can leave next year. 

Henry is a good player - it remains to be seen how he will be used, but they paid him like someone they intend to use a whole lot.  Mostert is someone I always have downplayed but whenever he plays he looks pretty studly.  I cannot argue with your perception, but feel as a third piece of that deal and at a premium position there is value.

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52 minutes ago, ChuckLiddell said:

I can see all of your points and wouldnt argue with any of them.  Fuller's deal in Miami is one year though, and regarding Tua (while getting totally off track)...I dont think the FFB community is being fair to him at all.  Dude was coming off a terrible injury, had no offseason/preseason - as a rookie QB, and had a sub-par OL and weapons to work with.  QB us a tough position - especially given those obstacles.  I think he will be fine, and if he isnt, Fuller can leave next year. 

Henry is a good player - it remains to be seen how he will be used, but they paid him like someone they intend to use a whole lot.  Mostert is someone I always have downplayed but whenever he plays he looks pretty studly.  I cannot argue with your perception, but feel as a third piece of that deal and at a premium position there is value.

The team dealing away Fuller, Mostert, and Henry is in a full rebuild with four future 1sts now.  No chance of winning in 2021.

In case that helps you see it from both sides.

 

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2 hours ago, deadlyrange0321 said:

12 team PPR, 1QB 1RB 1WR 1TE 4FLEX

Team A trades:

Aaron Jones


Team B trades:

1.02

1.2 by a ton. I was going to say 1.2 by a lot due to age and then saw you actually only have to start one RB which makes it even worse.

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1 hour ago, ChuckLiddell said:

I can see all of your points and wouldnt argue with any of them.  Fuller's deal in Miami is one year though, and regarding Tua (while getting totally off track)...I dont think the FFB community is being fair to him at all.  Dude was coming off a terrible injury, had no offseason/preseason - as a rookie QB, and had a sub-par OL and weapons to work with.  QB us a tough position - especially given those obstacles.  I think he will be fine, and if he isnt, Fuller can leave next year. 

Henry is a good player - it remains to be seen how he will be used, but they paid him like someone they intend to use a whole lot.  Mostert is someone I always have downplayed but whenever he plays he looks pretty studly.  I cannot argue with your perception, but feel as a third piece of that deal and at a premium position there is value.

I wouldn’t disagree about Tua, perhaps I am being too hard on him. I don’t think he makes a major leap this season but you bring up some good points. My philosophy in dynasty is to gets studs. I don’t consider any of those players studs so I prefer the pick. Nonetheless those guys certainly can be useful to a teams roster so I can appreciate your take as well,

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4 hours ago, ChuckLiddell said:

I prefer the players in this one.  Fuller is arguably worth a late first by himself and Henry and Mostert are each worth a 2.  

I think it being FFPC makes me want the pick side pretty easily.

FFPC does two things here...

1) Deflate the value of Fuller compared to a regular league, since WR2's are a dime a dozen in FFPC.

2) Massively inflate the value of the pick.  Since FFPC does a consolation bracket for draft order, that means these borderline playoff teams are typically the ones that end up with the 1.01/1.02 pick if they miss the playoffs.

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12 team IDP PPR 1.5 TE, 1.5 LB tackle, 0.75 LB Assist ($60 budget a year for RFA/FA with roll over year to year)

Gave

Miles Jack Jax LB

Mike Davis Atl RB

$8

for

1.10 pick

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12 hours ago, FreeBaGeL said:

I think it being FFPC makes me want the pick side pretty easily.

FFPC does two things here...

1) Deflate the value of Fuller compared to a regular league, since WR2's are a dime a dozen in FFPC.

2) Massively inflate the value of the pick.  Since FFPC does a consolation bracket for draft order, that means these borderline playoff teams are typically the ones that end up with the 1.01/1.02 pick if they miss the playoffs.

I think it can easily be good for both sides.  

The team trading away the players doesnt care about points from those players in the 2021 season, plus gets three roster spots to play the waiver game with all year.  FFPC usually has quality waiver pickups throughout the season.  

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19 hours ago, ghostguy123 said:

FFPC (standard)

Will Fuller, Raheem Mostert, Hunter Henry, 4.05

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2022 1st (could be anywhere but probably lean 60-40 it's a playoff team

Three dimes for a dollar. Gimme the pick 

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37 minutes ago, Edgar said:

Three dimes for a dollar. Gimme the pick 

No idea how Fuller will do this year in Miami or in the future if he goes to another team but he was last year's #9 WR in PPG.  Seems worth more than a dime.

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56 minutes ago, Dez said:

No idea how Fuller will do this year in Miami or in the future if he goes to another team but he was last year's #9 WR in PPG.  Seems worth more than a dime.

My takeaway from this part of the discussion is that it is definitely time to talk to Fuller owners and see what it would take to get him.  Sounds like he is worth a mid second or less to a lot of people, and to me, that is a steal.

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1 minute ago, Chad Parsons said:

12tm 1QB PPR (shallow-ish rosters)

Giovani Bernard, JD McKissic

FOR

Darrell Henderson

I would rather have Henderson.  People are down on him, but he will be one of the better handcuffs.  Bernard and McKissic don’t do anything for me.

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24 minutes ago, Chad Parsons said:

12tm 1QB PPR (shallow-ish rosters)

Giovani Bernard, JD McKissic

FOR

Darrell Henderson

Give me Henderson. I don't think McKissic does much with Fitz there. Fitz isn't Captain Checkdown like Alex Smith. Also Bernard maybe sees the field a few times a game?

I'd take the chance Akers doesn't pan out or gets hurt or Henderson forces some sort of share.

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34 minutes ago, rockaction said:

Give me Henderson. I don't think McKissic does much with Fitz there. Fitz isn't Captain Checkdown like Alex Smith. Also Bernard maybe sees the field a few times a game?

I'd take the chance Akers doesn't pan out or gets hurt or Henderson forces some sort of share.

Especially with shallow rosters - Bernard and McKissic have minimal value.

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12 team Dynasty League, keep 15 players, then you draft including the Rookies.

I traded: Montgomery, 3.02, 3.12 & 2022 1st

I received: 1.01

Any thoughts? Win....lose......draw?? I already have the 1.02 and the 1.05 and I think it's a "top 5" rookie draft this year. I won the league last year.

 

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40 minutes ago, robb said:

12 team Dynasty League, keep 15 players, then you draft including the Rookies.

I traded: Montgomery, 3.02, 3.12 & 2022 1st

I received: 1.01

Any thoughts? Win....lose......draw?? I already have the 1.02 and the 1.05 and I think it's a "top 5" rookie draft this year. I won the league last year.

 

With all that info, I would suppose that's your 22 1st (projected mid-late)?

If so, that's a nice deal. Shallow keepers and 1.01 gives you the option to get RB1 plus whoever you want at 1.02. In keep-15, the 3rds do no matter much in the deal

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5 minutes ago, Chad Parsons said:

With all that info, I would suppose that's your 22 1st (projected mid-late)?

If so, that's a nice deal. Shallow keepers and 1.01 gives you the option to get RB1 plus whoever you want at 1.02. In keep-15, the 3rds do no matter much in the deal

You are correct about the 3rds IMHO. It really was Montgomery & 2022 1st for the 1.01 then.

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12 team PPR 1QB....Needed to upgrade my wrs and qb in a big way if I wanted to compete this year. So I was busy this weekend. I gave up a lot so hopefully it gives me a good chance to win. After all was done it came out to basically this.

Gave: Barkley, G. Davis,1.03, 1.11 2022 1st

Got: A. Rodgers, D. Swift, Mclaurin, Aiyuk, 2.03, 2022 2nd

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14 hours ago, jadensdad said:

Another fuller deal

12 team ppr Superflex 

I gave 3.01 and Marvin Jones 

got fuller.

 

3.01 is a premium pick.  Rounds 3 and 4 are in August.  

Deal looks fairly even. Just commenting mostly to say I love this idea of rounds 1 &  2 early then 3 & 4 later. I'm going to propose it in my home league. 

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5 hours ago, Born to Run said:

Why would a rebuilding team trade away Robinson?

Because there's a decent chance he won't be the starter in 2022 is my guess. Not that Ilike the deal for Hunt and Shenault. But I would trade Robinson for picks. 

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3 hours ago, Mark Football said:

12 team PPR 1QB....Needed to upgrade my wrs and qb in a big way if I wanted to compete this year. So I was busy this weekend. I gave up a lot so hopefully it gives me a good chance to win. After all was done it came out to basically this.

Gave: Barkley, G. Davis,1.03, 1.11 2022 1st

Got: A. Rodgers, D. Swift, Mclaurin, Aiyuk, 2.03, 2022 2nd

Not a fan of what you did here.  Unless that is Charles Barkley.

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52 minutes ago, Chad Parsons said:

12-team 1QB

Josh Allen

FOR

Deshaun Watson, 22 1st, 22 2nd (both projected from a non-playoff which earned the 1.01 in 2021)

JohnnyU would be apoplectic. He can't understand why anyone would move on from Watson given how football players are allowed to play even after egregious offenses.

I can kind of see wanting to move on from Watson, though, given the potential criminal element of the complaints against him. That said, the first and second next year? I don't like that at all. Maybe a second on top of Watson, probably no more and certainly not both a first and a second. Allen is a top player at the position, but that seems like just too much to give for him in a 1QB league.

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7 hours ago, Chad Parsons said:

12-team 1QB

Josh Allen

FOR

Deshaun Watson, 22 1st, 22 2nd (both projected from a non-playoff which earned the 1.01 in 2021)

Dang, I can't even get a mid 1st for Kyler from the competing team with Watson in my league. 

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12 Team SF

Gave Lamb and 2.10

Got Diggs and 3.05

Lamb and Diggs are going almost back to back in startups and I have J Jefferson, Aiyuk, and D Adams so to me adding Diggs gave me a nice balance and I now have 3 guys who are clearly the A option on their team next year in JJ, Adams and Diggs. He was rebuilding and I was contending so i think this is a deal where we both got what we wanted.

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19 minutes ago, frae said:

12 Team SF

Gave Lamb and 2.10

Got Diggs and 3.05

Lamb and Diggs are going almost back to back in startups and I have J Jefferson, Aiyuk, and D Adams so to me adding Diggs gave me a nice balance and I now have 3 guys who are clearly the A option on their team next year in JJ, Adams and Diggs. He was rebuilding and I was contending so i think this is a deal where we both got what we wanted.

I prefer Lamb but can see both sides and preference here. Sometimes I get too caught up with age and miss out on production because of it

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2 hours ago, jadensdad said:

12 team ppr  ( not involved)

team a - jeudy

team b - Micheal Thomas

 

Definitely Thomas...Jeudy is still a legit prospect but he did not come out of the gate overly strong last year and the QB situation in Denver is still dicey...I get wanting to move on from Thomas but you gotta do better than this.

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42 minutes ago, frae said:

12 Team SF

Gave Lamb and 2.10

Got Diggs and 3.05

Lamb and Diggs are going almost back to back in startups and I have J Jefferson, Aiyuk, and D Adams so to me adding Diggs gave me a nice balance and I now have 3 guys who are clearly the A option on their team next year in JJ, Adams and Diggs. He was rebuilding and I was contending so i think this is a deal where we both got what we wanted.

Even trade but I am on team CeeDee Lamb...only 22 and in one of the better fantasy situations there is (Diggs is as well) which I believe will only be better after this year as I think only one of Gallup and Cooper will be there in 2022...I see the thinking but I really don't like breaking-up that JJ, Lamb, Aiyuk trio...those three young studs (three of my favorites right now) allow you to ride out Adams and not worry about his age...they are the foundation of a long-term contending team.

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7 minutes ago, Boston said:

Even trade but I am on team CeeDee Lamb...only 22 and in one of the better fantasy situations there is (Diggs is as well) which I believe will only be better after this year as I think only one of Gallup and Cooper will be there in 2022...I see the thinking but I really don't like breaking-up that JJ, Lamb, Aiyuk trio...those three young studs (three of my favorites right now) allow you to ride out Adams and not worry about his age...they are the foundation of a long-term contending team.

Yeah if anything keep Lamb and look to move Adams for someone like Metcalf or AJ Brown

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I like the trade for Diggs. Count me as one of the few, but I've long been a sucker for Diggs's talent. (Not enough to acquire him, so :cry:)

But Lamb plays exclusively in the slot, and I like my guys that line up outside, for some reason. I find that the slot is limiting. That's not a knock on Lamb's talent, that's where Dallas has him when Cooper and Gallup are out there. I'd imagine he's there even if Cedric Wilson is the third wideout. 

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On 4/16/2021 at 9:18 PM, ConnSKINS26 said:

14 team PPR

 

Gave:

McLaurin, Claypool, Jakobi Meyers

Got:

Davante Adams, Curtis Samuel

I think you did great here even if not in win now.  Adams is a bit older and I like Scary Terry but Adams has WR1 overall upside as he just did it while missing 2.5 games.  McLaurin will never sniff that playing for WFT.  Claypool isn't a bad piece but he doesn't look like a WR1 to me especially with Ben most likely done after this year.  This is the type of move that makes teams way better.

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18 hours ago, robb said:

12 team Dynasty League, keep 15 players, then you draft including the Rookies.

I traded: Montgomery, 3.02, 3.12 & 2022 1st

I received: 1.01

Any thoughts? Win....lose......draw?? I already have the 1.02 and the 1.05 and I think it's a "top 5" rookie draft this year. I won the league last year.

 

This is a good move and a great way to cash in on Montgomery.  Obviously this could look much worse if you finish with a top 2 pick in 2022 but I'd say that as long as that pick is closer to the end of the 1st than the beginning, it was a pretty good move.

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15 hours ago, Mark Football said:

12 team PPR 1QB....Needed to upgrade my wrs and qb in a big way if I wanted to compete this year. So I was busy this weekend. I gave up a lot so hopefully it gives me a good chance to win. After all was done it came out to basically this.

Gave: Barkley, G. Davis,1.03, 1.11 2022 1st

Got: A. Rodgers, D. Swift, Mclaurin, Aiyuk, 2.03, 2022 2nd

I don't like this at all really.  Losing Barkley, 1.3 and a 22 1st means you may have lost the 3 best pieces in this trade.  You did make yourself better this year so if that was your only goal then that was successful but I'd say this is selling low on Barkley & 1.3 and lost next year's 1st on top of that.

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15 hours ago, Mark Football said:

12 team PPR 1QB....Needed to upgrade my wrs and qb in a big way if I wanted to compete this year. So I was busy this weekend. I gave up a lot so hopefully it gives me a good chance to win. After all was done it came out to basically this.

Gave: Barkley, G. Davis,1.03, 1.11 2022 1st

Got: A. Rodgers, D. Swift, Mclaurin, Aiyuk, 2.03, 2022 2nd

I roughly break this down as:

Barkley + G. Davis = Swift + McLaurin

1.11 = 2.03 + 2022 2nd

1.03 + 2022 1st >>> Aiyuk + Rodgers.

The 2022 1st should have been kept and it kinda balances out, but I still don't like giving up Barkley and 1.03 here. There had to be a better way to improve your WR/QB without gutting your roster.

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