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Realistically? Not much more than we’ve seen. Putting aside we are taking about a team owned by Dan Snyder, I’d say my expectation in changing coaches (or anything else) is simply improvement.
"Gruden noted both that Cousins played well and that he didn’t play enough to elevate the whole team during a challenging season."
Fair assessment. And if this is what his biggest supporter in the org thinks, then KC is not getting franchise money from the Redskins. It really is best for him to go somewhere like Denver where he won’t have to elevate the team.
Yeah, it is. He'll never carry a team, and carrying a team at least some of the time is a requirement for the kind of money he wants here.
I think he’d sign with Denver over Cleveland for a lower offer as long as it is a decent offer. I think he does want to win. It’s not ALL about money, not even here in DC. Anyway it doesn’t matter. He’s done in DC. The sooner it gets done now the better so the team can start working on other options....
Re: the idea of taking a shot on a rookie QB -- the idea is not crazy that the Redskins could go for one in this draft even without trading up. I've heard many "experts" talk about how there are legit four QBs who could be top 15 players: Darnold, Rosen, Allen and Mayfield. Some people even put Lamar Jackson and Mason Rudolph in the first round, so that's actually 6 potential QBs in the first round. The point is, there are QBs to be taken, based on how good you think they are.
I don't see the disconnect. He has been happy on one year franchise deals. He didn't want a long term deal until those options ran out. The are out now so he'll deal.
Yeah, maybe you don't see the disconnect but my point was many, many people out there were making pronoucements that he would not sign a deal in Washington, no matter what. For instance, see this article, one of many just like it at the time: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/report-kirk-cousins-wont-sign-a-long-term-deal-as-long-as-bruce-allen-is-with-redskins/
i stay very skeptical of anything that comes out of our media unless i hear it myself. They are the worst!
Right...he was not comfortable at signing that contract...not that he would NEVER sign a contract in Washington. Pretty much along the reasoning Sebowski said most likely. The article you posted and the one I posted are WAY different.
I think he'd listen to an offer of $28+million per year and even think of staying but as you say we aint giving him that..,.nor should we with so many other needs to fill.
I think he'd be better off in Jacksonville. Great young Defense will take a ton of pressure off.
There is absolutely no reason Jacksonville shouldn't try to sign Cousins. They currently have $17 million in cap space available and gain an additional $19 million if they cut Bortles, which is a no brainer. Their defense is good enough now where you don't want to have to wait a couple of years to develop a young QB. For the reasons you stated above, I think Jacksonville would be a desirable team for Cousins.
I agree which is why I am rooting for Bortles to have a great game this week. Jaguars are the perfect fit for Cousins. The money is there and so is the team. Denver doesn't have the cap space without shredding the rest of the roster so I don't know if they will pony up for Kirk. I also don't think that higly of the rest of Denver's team. I didn't see their vaunted defense show up this year at all. Their skill positions may be a bit better than the Redskins right now, but only a bit, and let's see how they both look after the draft and the start of free agency. The gap their is closable. After the Jaguars I think Kirk's best spot is to stay in DC. I am not sure the Redskins best move is to pay what Kirk is asking for though. This team has too many holes right now. Ask me tomorrow and I might change my minddhockster said:
Yeah, I want Bortles to just blow up this weekend. I actually like Pittsburgh's team, but it would be cool to see some "fresh blood" make some noise in the playoffs.I agree which is why I am rooting for Bortles to have a great game this week. Jaguars are the perfect fit for Cousins. The money is there and so is the team. Denver doesn't have the cap space without shredding the rest of the roster so I don't know if they will pony up for Kirk. I also don't think that higly of the rest of Denver's team. I didn't see their vaunted defense show up this year at all. Their skill positions may be a bit better than the Redskins right now, but only a bit, and let's see how they both look after the draft and the start of free agency. The gap their is closable. After the Jaguars I think Kirk's best spot is to stay in DC. I am not sure the Redskins best move is to pay what Kirk is asking for though. This team has too many holes right now. Ask me tomorrow and I might change my mind
Personally, I would take Smith over Eli. If I am winning primarily due to the strength of my defense, the main thing I don't want the offense to do is turn the ball over. Eli turns the ball over too much for my preference.
That;s a legitimate point. I think for the $, Smith is probably preferable to Cousins with that defense. If Smith will cost $17 million and Cousins $28 million, that's a cool $11 million extra to put toward surrounding weapons/defense, etc.
A lot of (potentially) available QBs this offseason. Cousins is the best of them, but, like you say, teams may prefer a lesser QB for significantly lesser contract. Cousins, Smith, Bortles, Eli, 2 of the Vikings' QBs, Taylor. Tannenhill maybe? Palmer is probably done.
I don't remember a year with this many moving parts at the QB position. I find it fascinating. Even started a thread about it.
Add to that 4-6 QBs projected to go in the first round. At least a few of those QB-needy teams are going to take a shot in the draft...
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2753513-kirk-cousins-would-reportedly-seriously-consider-playing-for-browns
Amazing how much the bolded has been derided as ridiculous by so many sports mouths and Redskin fans, yet now here we are and surprise, there are options in FA and the draft.
And yet people tried to say it wasn't about the money. Guess we can put that BS to rest.
I think the Vikes stick with Keenum and Teddy signs a short team friendly deal. Bradford follows Shurmer to whatever job he lands. Hopefully AZ. That will only leave Denver as real competition for Cousins. And they should draft someone instead.
I'm pretty sure that if we don't draft a rookie to be our (immediate or soon thereafter) starter that one of the those 2 Viking QB's will end up here.
If Shurmer goes to a team that doesn't need a QB I can see Bradford here. I really think the Vikings will keep Case and Teddy.
Those aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. If they go with Darnold, he'll need time to develop. Cousins would give them that time.
