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WR Courtland Sutton, DEN (2 Viewers)
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Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
This is going to be a make or break week for me and Sutton, I won't lie boys and girls.
With all the good news out of camp, and Sanders not being the healthiest, had big expectations he would break out with Flacco at helm -- Flacco isn't spectacular, but he can utilize decent WRs.
With Tyreek going out in week 1, I've gone way long on WRs to cover. To the point where I'm thinner than I want to be with RBs.
If Courtland shows some signs of life, I'll stick with him as an upside matchup flex. Sanders looks clearly looks like the better "have" on this offense, but he still isn't the healthiest. In fact, he went from limited practice to full practice back to limited practice yesterday. As such, Courtland has upside just from Sanders potentially continuing to ail.
The other side of the coin is Sutton is dinged himself. While he had a full practice Friday, no telling how healthy his ribs really are. And Flacco and this offense have not really sparked.
If Sutton has a limited day, may just shed him for depth in favor of more upside guys.
Do we still think Sutton could have more long term value than younger upside guys like Metcalf or Chark, or even a guy like Tate who might be valuable in PPR?
With all the good news out of camp, and Sanders not being the healthiest, had big expectations he would break out with Flacco at helm -- Flacco isn't spectacular, but he can utilize decent WRs.
With Tyreek going out in week 1, I've gone way long on WRs to cover. To the point where I'm thinner than I want to be with RBs.
If Courtland shows some signs of life, I'll stick with him as an upside matchup flex. Sanders looks clearly looks like the better "have" on this offense, but he still isn't the healthiest. In fact, he went from limited practice to full practice back to limited practice yesterday. As such, Courtland has upside just from Sanders potentially continuing to ail.
The other side of the coin is Sutton is dinged himself. While he had a full practice Friday, no telling how healthy his ribs really are. And Flacco and this offense have not really sparked.
If Sutton has a limited day, may just shed him for depth in favor of more upside guys.
Do we still think Sutton could have more long term value than younger upside guys like Metcalf or Chark, or even a guy like Tate who might be valuable in PPR?
Sarlakticacid
Footballguy
Despite getting less targets last week, he made some clutch catches to continue drives
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Building depth at RB, I think I have enough speculative upside PPR WRs (Tyreek, Golladay, Chark, Tate, Metcalf).
Looking for a preemptive strike on Ty Johnson, maybe Rec Burkhead for long term use (not week 3 despite his bump with White out), etc.
I’m really asking the impossible - a future prediction on long term value of Sutton relative to these other WRs and upside depth flex RBs.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I'd have Sutton ahead of tate and Metcalf. ahead of burkhead and ty.
If Ty is a FA, I'd grab him now...
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Appreciate the insight, been following everything you've been saying in Ty's thread. Classic damned if I do, damned if I don't. My feeling is that Tate may be the lowest ranked on my personal totem pole, but would be great to see what Jones does today as a further gauge. In PPR, Tate can be a monster.
But if I drop him, I definitely won't have a shot to get him back as that's how Yahoo rolls - Tate returns in Week 5, and can see Tate being a commodity to other owners.
Gambles galore in this hobby, it's why I love it.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I'm higher on Sutton in general. Tough call. I've certainly lost some of those gambles in the past
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
:(
Not to hijack thread, but thought we'd see more of Ty mixed in overall.
May be a gamble that won't pay off unless Kerryon gets dinged.
I kept Sutton, and looked like he had a solid day, so for now, seems like a hold. We may see a see-saw between him and Sanders as to who gets the looks. This offense with Flacco seems so unpredictable as it is.
EthnicFury
Footballguy
I’m not prepared to start him in bad matchups but have been impressed with the development as a dyno owner and am happy to roll him out there in good ones. Which is better than I could say for him last year.
It was a rough schedule to start the season and I feel like he’s done a respectable job thus far. I will start him against the jags if Ramsey isn’t playing; otherwise he waits another week
It was a rough schedule to start the season and I feel like he’s done a respectable job thus far. I will start him against the jags if Ramsey isn’t playing; otherwise he waits another week
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Apple Juice
Footballguy
Well said. Very encouraged by his showings and feel good about him dynasty. Flacco, despite all his flaws and detractors, has been good for Sutton. Sutton just needs a chance to make plays and Flacco has done his part. Too bad he just had a toe out on that TD catch.
Like you I only plan to start him in favorable matchups. Cant wait for the Chiefs matchups.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Had some tough matchups so far but I am pleased through 3 weeks. I think there are big weeks to be had ahead.
Rhythmdoctor
Footballguy
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Yeah I just bought a share in my dyno. He'll be the clear #1 by the end of the season I think. Excited to see what we have here.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
While I loosely targeted both when they presented value... trying to figure out how 3 extra catches/targets is better then the 5 more yards per catch through those same games. The TDs are too fickle (Sanders 1-yard and 7-yard tds help him a ton currently) especially when they both had 4 last year and the target/catches/yards were trending the same last year as they are now.
Johnny B. Goode
Footballguy
anyone starting with confidence this week?
flapgreen
Footballguy
barackdhouse
Footballguy
No, but I think I will be later. It's just a bad matchup, but I like what I've seen from him so far this year.
Asslete
Footballguy
At the moment, I am starting him over John Brown and Dorsett, though that may change depending on Edelman's status
Skeletore Eh
Footballguy
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Deciding to sit him -- Sutton has a tough matchup, and didn't fare well against CHI who has a solid secondary. He did quite well against GB who came into the game with PHI as a better backfield unit, which gave me pause.
The deciding factor is that Sutton will get 7 or 8 targets, but this year he's converted them for anywhere between 4-7 catches with 40-120 yards.
The variance is wide here so going with a WR with potentially more solid floor/easier match up.
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
This guy looks like a WR1 waiting to happen. He isnt a burner, but he fills that measurables graph (linked) out pretty well. Great size and strength and what looks like elite agility for a guy as big as he is. He is a QB away from potential greatness.
https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/courtland-sutton
https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/courtland-sutton
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
I was watching a highlight reel from last year of him. Dude has fantastic reach. Makes catches with full arm extension look easy.
Milkman
Footballguy
You'll regret dropping Sutton imo. His schedule lightens up and he's Denver's #1 imo.
Football Jones
Footballguy
You can see the development coming together.
Sutton will be a top FF asset by the end of 2020, IMO.
Sutton will be a top FF asset by the end of 2020, IMO.
Johnny B. Goode
Footballguy
HairyGOATee
Footballguy
Should I start Sutton or DeMarcus Robinson in PPR this week?
Sutton plays JAX and DRob plays DET
I'm leaning towards DRob
Sutton plays JAX and DRob plays DET
I'm leaning towards DRob
farfromforgotten
Footballguy
I'd take my chances with Robinson. JAX/DEN has all the makings of, what I'll politely call, a "defensive struggle" today.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
well Ramsey is Iffy and you cannot deny the Power of MINSHEW...….The Denver d hasn't done anything all year, their new coach is in over his head
farfromforgotten
Footballguy
You're right. I'm giving Denver too much credit based on their previous years defensive performances. I still would start Robinson over Sutton though.
Sutton seems like a safe 10 pt play and Robinson the more "boom or bust" candidate. I'm a boom or bust-er type fantasy player.
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This is going to be a low scoring game and Ramsey may still play. Even if he doesn't, JAX secondary is still strong.
Also, there are weather concerns. I'd be benching Sutton.
JAC @ DEN -
Still looking like a windy day in Denver. On the low-end we are looking at a 15-20mph sustained wind with wind gusts around 30mph. On the higher end I've seen models calling for 20mph+ sustained and wind gusts close to 40... either way it will be impactful, but if we end up on that high end it's basically a full fade to the passing/kicking game. I'll keep it updated, as always.
Also, there are weather concerns. I'd be benching Sutton.
JAC @ DEN -
Still looking like a windy day in Denver. On the low-end we are looking at a 15-20mph sustained wind with wind gusts around 30mph. On the higher end I've seen models calling for 20mph+ sustained and wind gusts close to 40... either way it will be impactful, but if we end up on that high end it's basically a full fade to the passing/kicking game. I'll keep it updated, as always.
Johnny B. Goode
Footballguy
sutton, godwin, or hock?
spider321
Footballguy
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Sutton with a solid game. I had him in my lineup over Metcalf for a a few seconds as my team was pacing towards being ahead and made sense to go with a potential higher floor in Sutton than a higher ceiling I saw in Metcalf against a porous ARI pass D.
Stuck with Metcalf, and now expecting to lose by 5+ points.
Can't win 'em all, but this all goes to say that Sutton has proven himself as a useful fantasy player in this offense and should at least be considered a flex any given week.
Guy has definitely convinced me.
Stuck with Metcalf, and now expecting to lose by 5+ points.
Can't win 'em all, but this all goes to say that Sutton has proven himself as a useful fantasy player in this offense and should at least be considered a flex any given week.
Guy has definitely convinced me.
flapgreen
Footballguy
HairyGOATee
Footballguy
Sarlakticacid
Footballguy
Seeing a lot of clutch catches from Sutton has he had any drops in critical moments?
Waldman had a whole piece on how he claps his hands before catching the ball and holds his hands too far apart. That said, he’s been pretty reliable catching the ball, aside from one drop last week. He’s definitely an ascending player and one I’d be reluctant to deal.
