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1 hour ago, knowledge dropper said:

Google is your friend.  Start with riots in Baltimore, and St. Louis.  Maybe hit up his response to his reaction to that fool Zimmermann.  Lastly, try the execution of police in Dallas.  

So nothing?  Got it.

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Just now, JIslander said:

:shrug: who knows --but if you think Trump is sincere about this --other than a means to use for publicity and distraction, than I dont know what else to say.  He's a racist. 

Personally, I couldn't care less if Trump is sincere. Does the summit have a chance to bring about good things? I believe it does, so i'm all for it. 

Some people give waay to much power to the president. 

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10 minutes ago, Cjw_55106 said:

What's your point? It sounds like you are saying it wont improve anything so why try. Is that you stance?

 

No. I'm happy that there's a race summit. That it's some big accomplishment, not so much. Sounds like a photo opp.

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So there were riots after a bunch of police killings and it was Obama's fault?  And didn't a couple cops just get executed a few weeks ago?

It's astounding the reality these people live in.  Race tensions suck now and they sucked during Obama's term and they sucked during GWBs term.  But to even try to imply that Trump has been anything but divisive in this area is straight laughable.

So haha at you.

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4 minutes ago, JuniorNB said:

What a surprise. A thread started as a way to troll, turns into a thread full of people whining about trolling. Same guys every time. 

By troll you mean post something positive Trump is doing in the echo chamber?   Then I guess it meets the current PSF definition of trolling.  

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1 minute ago, The General said:

No. I'm happy that there's a race summit. That it's some big accomplishment, not so much. Sounds like a photo opp.

If we are being truthful, we have no idea if it will or will not be a big accomplishment. 

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1 minute ago, Cjw_55106 said:

Personally, I couldn't care less if Trump is sincere. Does the summit have a chance to bring about good things? I believe it does, so i'm all for it. 

Some people give waay to much power to the president. 

Oh, I'm all for a race summit --but not this prez, admin or current congress --

And you should care if he's not sincere because he would be using it only for self promotion and distraction --

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2 minutes ago, JIslander said:

Oh, I'm all for a race summit --but not this prez, admin or current congress --

Oh, so we should wait for another couple of years until someone you are more comfortable with can be running the summit? 

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1 minute ago, Cjw_55106 said:

If we are being truthful, we have no idea if it will or will not be a big accomplishment. 

If having Kanye and Mike Tyson hang at that White House is all it takes I'll be pretty impressed. Nice work, Donald for inviting them to talk. Here's a cookie.

What do you want people to say to about this other than "well, ok" and move on.

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Just now, The General said:

If having Kanye and Mike Tyson hang at that White House is all it takes I'll be pretty impressed. Nice work, Donald for inviting them to talk. Here's a cookie.

What do you want people to say to about this other than "well, ok" and move on.

I think others beside Mike and Kanye will be there.

I dont want anyone to say anything other than well, ok. Some people, it seems, cant do that.  

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1 minute ago, JIslander said:

Yes - racists make me uncomfortable.

Poor race relations in this country aren't new. Many past presidents, administrations and congress have had chances for such summits. All have passed on the opportunity. 

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10 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:

By troll you mean post something positive Trump is doing in the echo chamber?   Then I guess it meets the current PSF definition of trolling.  

"No one has ever accomplished more than Trump in 18 months"

ROFL.  Yeah, that's not trolling at all.  Dude, I frankly don't care if you choose to be a troll.  But then to have to read twenty posts of you whining because people troll you back? That's ridiculous. Grow up a little. 

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3 minutes ago, The General said:

If having Kanye and Mike Tyson hang at that White House is all it takes I'll be pretty impressed. Nice work, Donald for inviting them to talk. Here's a cookie.

What do you want people to say to about this other than "well, ok" and move on.

The Kaepernick thread is 242 pages.  Trump is willing to do what 32 NFL owners are unwilling to do by inviting Kaepernick.  

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2 minutes ago, Cjw_55106 said:

Poor race relations in this country aren't new. Many past presidents, administrations and congress have had chances for such summits. All have passed on the opportunity. 

Great --the President that wants a wall to keep brown people out is going to champion a race summit -

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10 minutes ago, JIslander said:

Oh, I'm all for a race summit --but not this prez, admin or current congress --

And you should care if he's not sincere because he would be using it only for self promotion and distraction --

Exactly. Trump is well aware of his reputation and tries desperately to do things to change the perception.  Like saying Melania is going to lead an effort to stop cyber bullying?  Come on!  Trump is the biggest cyber bully in the country's history when you couple his posts with his level of power. 

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Just now, JuniorNB said:

"No one has ever accomplished more than Trump in 18 months"

ROFL.  Yeah, that's not trolling at all.  Dude, I frankly don't care if you choose to be a troll.  But then to have to read twenty posts of you whining because people troll you back? That's ridiculous. Grow up a little. 

Calling someone racist is okay, but hyping Trumps accomplishments is trolling. You are so silly and blinded by hate it is ridiculous. Get a life. 

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Just now, JIslander said:

Great --the President that wants a wall to keep brown people out is going to champion a race summit -

Actually, he wants to build a wall to keep illegals out. I never heard him saying anything about skin color. 

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4 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:

The Kaepernick thread is 242 pages.  Trump is willing to do what 32 NFL owners are unwilling to do by inviting Kaepernick.  

The Seahawks have had him in twice.

Pete Carroll has done twice as much as Trump.

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Just now, knowledge dropper said:

Calling someone racist is okay, but hyping Trumps accomplishments is trolling. You are so silly and blinded by hate it is ridiculous. Get a life. 

I just tried to educate you but you refuse to accept the help. Your thread would have been fine if you didn't add the troll sentence at the end. With that, you invited and deserve all the bashing you get. 

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4 minutes ago, JuniorNB said:

Then why not a north border wall?  

Because he DID say he wanted more whites -- Swedes --whatever --

“Why do we want all these people from Africa here? They’re ####hole countries ... We should have more people from Norway.”

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4 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:

Calling someone racist is okay, but hyping Trumps accomplishments is trolling. You are so silly and blinded by hate it is ridiculous. Get a life. 

Racists were bothered by Obama as president, no?

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13 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:

The Kaepernick thread is 242 pages.  Trump is willing to do what 32 NFL owners are unwilling to do by inviting Kaepernick.  

One of the big reasons why NFL owners don't want Kaep is because they don't want the big orange dope tweeting about them in case you forgot.

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2 hours ago, jon_mx said:

The implication is that he is a racist.  You guys 'innocently' pull this kind of stuff all the time and get away with it.  

Oh stop.....don't make me regret sticking up for you.  You have to read a good bit into that statement to get this implication.  You seem to have some strong confirmation bias issues.  When you want it to be true, it's going to be true.

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6 minutes ago, The Commish said:

Oh stop.....don't make me regret sticking up for you.  You have to read a good bit into that statement to get this implication.  You seem to have some strong confirmation bias issues.  When you want it to be true, it's going to be true.

I am sure Hitler would agree with that....

How does a statement like that come across?  Why bring up racists or some other hideous group but to try to link the poster that group or person.  Why not attack the logic of the point instead of some guilt by association.   It is a poor arguement which only serves to put the poster on the defensive and prove they are not racist.   Really, how do you respond to such a point?   Ignore it maybe.   But that gets old.   

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lol @ all the pearl clutching in here.

Laughing and poking fun is absolutely the correct response when someone with Trump's track record calls for a summit on race.

It's funny.

Because we all know just how little he cares about race relations. The game he plays is diametrically opposed to people of different races getting along in this country.

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4 minutes ago, Skoo said:

lol @ all the pearl clutching in here.

Laughing and poking fun is absolutely the correct response when someone with Trump's track record calls for a summit on race.

It's funny.

Because we all know just how little he cares about race relations. The game he plays is diametrically opposed to people of different races getting along in this country.

And his supporters know it. That's why they fall for these photo ops and PR moves.  They need something to cling to and refer back to when he makes his next racist comment or discriminatory policy. 

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6 minutes ago, JuniorNB said:

And his supporters know it. That's why they fall for these photo ops and PR moves.  They need something to cling to and refer back to when he makes his next racist comment or discriminatory policy. 

The possibility of Trump being successful scares the crap out of you guys.  

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2 hours ago, The General said:

If having Kanye and Mike Tyson hang at that White House is all it takes I'll be pretty impressed. Nice work, Donald for inviting them to talk. Here's a cookie.

What do you want people to say to about this other than "well, ok" and move on.

Remember the uproar from the right over Obama inviting Common to the WH?

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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html

 

  • Trump’s real-estate company tried to avoid renting apartments to African-Americans in the 1970s and gave preferential treatment to whites, according to the federal government.
  • Trump treated black employees at his casinos differently from whites, according to multiple sources. A former hotel executive said Trump criticized a black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks.”
  • In 1989, Trump took out ads in New York newspapers urging the death penalty for five black and Latino teenagers accused of raping a white woman in Central Park; he argued they were guilty as late as October 2016, more than 10 years after DNA evidence had exonerated them.
  • In 1989, on NBC, Trump said: “I think sometimes a black may think they don’t have an advantage or this and that. I’ve said on one occasion, even about myself, if I were starting off today, I would love to be a well-educated black, because I really believe they do have an actual advantage.”
  • He began his 2016 presidential campaign with a speech disparaging Mexican immigrants as criminals and “rapists.”
  • He uses the gang MS-13 to disparage all immigrants. Among many other statements, he has suggested that Obama’s protection of the Dreamers — otherwise law-abiding immigrants who were brought to the United States illegally as children — contributed to the spread of MS-13.
  • In December 2015, Trump called for a “a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States,” including refusing to readmit Muslim-American citizens who were outside of the country at the time.
  • Trump said a federal judge hearing a case about Trump University was biased because of the judge’s Mexican heritage.
  • In June 2017, Trump said 15,000 recent immigrants from Haiti “all have AIDS” and that 40,000 Nigerians, once seeing the United States, would never “go back to their huts” in Africa.
  • He spent years suggesting that the nation’s first black president was born not in the United States but in Kenya, a lie that Trump still has not acknowledged as such.
  • Trump called Obama (who was editor in chief of the Harvard Law Review) “a terrible student, terrible.”
  • Trump frequently claimed that Obama did not work hard as president.
  • Trump falsely claimed that President Obama “issued a statement for Kwanzaa but failed to issue one for Christmas.”
  • He often casts heavily black American cities as dystopian war zones. In a 2016 debate with Hillary Clinton, Trump said, “Our inner cities, African Americans, Hispanics are living in hell because it’s so dangerous. You walk down the street, you get shot.” Trump also said to black voters: “You’re living in poverty; your schools are no good; you have no jobs.”
  • He frequently offers false crime statistics to exaggerate urban crime, including about Oakland, Philadelphia and Ferguson, Mo.
  • He is quick to highlight crimes committed by dark-skinned people, sometimes exaggerating or lying about them (such as a claim about growing crime from “radical Islamic terror” in Britain). He is very slow to decry hate crimes committed by whites against dark-skinned people (such as the killing of an Indian man in Kansas last year).
  • He frequently criticizes prominent African-Americans for being unpatriotic, ungrateful and disrespectful.
  • He called Puerto Ricans who criticized his administration’s response to Hurricane Maria “politically motivated ingrates.”
  • He has retweeted white nationalists without apology.
  • He called some of those who marched alongside white supremacists in Charlottesville, Va., last August “very fine people.”
  • After David Duke, the former leader of the Ku Klux Klan, endorsed him, Trump was reluctant to disavow Duke even when asked directly on television.
  • Trump hired Steve Bannon as his campaign head and later White House chief strategist. Under Bannon’s leadership, the website Breitbart madewhite nationalism a central theme. It featured a section, for example, on “black crime.”
  • Trump endorsed and campaigned for Roy Moore, the Alabama Senate candidate who spoke positively about slavery and who called for an African-American Muslim member of Congress not to be seated because of his religion.
  • Trump pardoned – and fulsomely praises – Joe Arpaio, the Arizona sheriff sanctioned for racially profiling Latinos and for keeping immigrants in brutal prison conditions.
  • In a White House meeting with a Korean-American intelligence analyst briefing him on Pakistan, Trump wondered aloud why she was not working on North Korea policy.
  • Trump once referred to a Hispanic Miss Universe as “Miss Housekeeping.”
  • At a June 2016 campaign rally, Trump pointed to one attendee and said: “Oh, look at my African-American over here. Look at him.”
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13 minutes ago, Reg Lllama of Brixton said:

 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html

 

  • Trump’s real-estate company tried to avoid renting apartments to African-Americans in the 1970s and gave preferential treatment to whites, according to the federal government.
  • Trump treated black employees at his casinos differently from whites, according to multiple sources. A former hotel executive said Trump criticized a black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks.”
  • In 1989, Trump took out ads in New York newspapers urging the death penalty for five black and Latino teenagers accused of raping a white woman in Central Park; he argued they were guilty as late as October 2016, more than 10 years after DNA evidence had exonerated them.
  • In 1989, on NBC, Trump said: “I think sometimes a black may think they don’t have an advantage or this and that. I’ve said on one occasion, even about myself, if I were starting off today, I would love to be a well-educated black, because I really believe they do have an actual advantage.”
  • He began his 2016 presidential campaign with a speech disparaging Mexican immigrants as criminals and “rapists.”
  • He uses the gang MS-13 to disparage all immigrants. Among many other statements, he has suggested that Obama’s protection of the Dreamers — otherwise law-abiding immigrants who were brought to the United States illegally as children — contributed to the spread of MS-13.
  • In December 2015, Trump called for a “a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States,” including refusing to readmit Muslim-American citizens who were outside of the country at the time.
  • Trump said a federal judge hearing a case about Trump University was biased because of the judge’s Mexican heritage.
  • In June 2017, Trump said 15,000 recent immigrants from Haiti “all have AIDS” and that 40,000 Nigerians, once seeing the United States, would never “go back to their huts” in Africa.
  • He spent years suggesting that the nation’s first black president was born not in the United States but in Kenya, a lie that Trump still has not acknowledged as such.
  • Trump called Obama (who was editor in chief of the Harvard Law Review) “a terrible student, terrible.”
  • Trump frequently claimed that Obama did not work hard as president.
  • Trump falsely claimed that President Obama “issued a statement for Kwanzaa but failed to issue one for Christmas.”
  • He often casts heavily black American cities as dystopian war zones. In a 2016 debate with Hillary Clinton, Trump said, “Our inner cities, African Americans, Hispanics are living in hell because it’s so dangerous. You walk down the street, you get shot.” Trump also said to black voters: “You’re living in poverty; your schools are no good; you have no jobs.”
  • He frequently offers false crime statistics to exaggerate urban crime, including about Oakland, Philadelphia and Ferguson, Mo.
  • He is quick to highlight crimes committed by dark-skinned people, sometimes exaggerating or lying about them (such as a claim about growing crime from “radical Islamic terror” in Britain). He is very slow to decry hate crimes committed by whites against dark-skinned people (such as the killing of an Indian man in Kansas last year).
  • He frequently criticizes prominent African-Americans for being unpatriotic, ungrateful and disrespectful.
  • He called Puerto Ricans who criticized his administration’s response to Hurricane Maria “politically motivated ingrates.”
  • He has retweeted white nationalists without apology.
  • He called some of those who marched alongside white supremacists in Charlottesville, Va., last August “very fine people.”
  • After David Duke, the former leader of the Ku Klux Klan, endorsed him, Trump was reluctant to disavow Duke even when asked directly on television.
  • Trump hired Steve Bannon as his campaign head and later White House chief strategist. Under Bannon’s leadership, the website Breitbart madewhite nationalism a central theme. It featured a section, for example, on “black crime.”
  • Trump endorsed and campaigned for Roy Moore, the Alabama Senate candidate who spoke positively about slavery and who called for an African-American Muslim member of Congress not to be seated because of his religion.
  • Trump pardoned – and fulsomely praises – Joe Arpaio, the Arizona sheriff sanctioned for racially profiling Latinos and for keeping immigrants in brutal prison conditions.
  • In a White House meeting with a Korean-American intelligence analyst briefing him on Pakistan, Trump wondered aloud why she was not working on North Korea policy.
  • Trump once referred to a Hispanic Miss Universe as “Miss Housekeeping.”
  • At a June 2016 campaign rally, Trump pointed to one attendee and said: “Oh, look at my African-American over here. Look at him.”

Maybe this summit is actually like some kind of intervention for donald.

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32 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:

The possibility of Trump being successful scares the crap out of you guys.  

I hope we get the three jailed Americans back from North Korea. I hope the economy does well.  I hope North Korea denuclearizes. You can debate all you want how much that represents Trump being successful, but I want it regardless. Hell, give him the Nobel Peace Prize if it makes you feel better.  I also hope the shady, disgusting, lying criminal ends up impeached and in jail. 

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