These days? The city has a long and storied history of being a cess poolSF is a cesspool these days. So sad.
Hybrid cars that are still in development?What is the solution to this ongoing problem
Many of these folks don't have the skills to integrate into the modern workforce. Taxpayers should fund programs that will allow these people to gain the skills they need to compete in the job market. Like learning how to code.What is the solution to this ongoing problem
Shelters and food banks are more prevalent if they’re so inclined, plus exponentially more people to beg from and possibly get a buck or two. Also easier access to whatever vices they might have that currently led them into the current situation.Is being homeless in a big city with a mild climate that much more appealing that being homeless in a rural area with a mild climate? If so, why?
I don’t disagree with the intention, but these people don’t have the skills to even learn how to integrate into a modern workforce. They’re practically all living with either a mental illness or addiction. There’s enough social programs where the “down of their luck” crew has mostly not been on the streets, just living in poverty.Many of these folks don't have the skills to integrate into the modern workforce. Taxpayers should fund programs that will allow these people to gain the skills they need to compete in the job market. Like learning how to code.
The homeless programs are vastly underfunded and all of the good teachers are at universities. The only real solution is to throw more money at it to lure better code teachers.I don’t disagree with the intention, but these people don’t have the skills to even learn how to integrate into a modern workforce. They’re practically all living with either a mental illness or addiction. There’s enough social programs where the “down of their luck” crew has mostly not been on the streets, just living in poverty.
I think big cities have safety nets in place (shelters, soup kitchens, etc) that rural communities do not.Is being homeless in a big city with a mild climate that much more appealing that being homeless in a rural area with a mild climate? If so, why?
Crazy Chester does not want to learn how to code. He just wants to medicate until the voices stop. Whitman Thereau IX and PTSD Pete, well they just like being out of doors. Are there programing companies with their work stations situated al fresco?The homeless programs are vastly underfunded and all of the good teachers are at universities. The only real solution is to throw more money at it to lure better code teachers.
They're doing this in Salt Lake City as well. From what I've read, it's been the best option so far, for a number of reasons.Los Angeles is massive. It is really, really spread out.
And there are homeless everywhere.
Even the Valley is overflowing.
It's not yet as bad as Honolulu, but, there are some large tent cities going up and people on every street and I can see it getting worse quickly.
One thing I heard was the city started renting apartments and giving them to the homeless for free, and it ended up being cheaper than the usual cost of city services for the homeless.
Agreed. Deinstitutionalization has largely been a failure IMO. People aren't getting the help they need and it costs society greatly as well.People who choose to be homeless over going into shelters or using section 8 to get into an apartment need more care than can be addressed on a message board. My answers will all sound heartless but I believe that the mental state of these folks calls for many to end up in old fashioned Looney bins. They can not be trusted to self medicate and quite frankly our society of today does not allow for you to live life as a urban camper.
How does the real estate stay so high then?SF is a cesspool these days. So sad.
portland resident. all my life. did a report on this in HS where i went all around portland filming and talking to homeless people, the shelters, social workers, police and local government.What is the solution to this ongoing problem
Because there are insane amounts of wealth there. And, the SF area is a fantastic place to live.How does the real estate stay so high then?
You had me until cutting bike lanes and light rail. Can’t we cut bomb purchases and tax breaks for the rich first?In this regard, you can give these people the help they need, remove and reverse most of the visual blight we currently are witnessing, and genuinely help solve the problem at the people level. I'd rather my tax money go to this than building new bike lanes or light rail services.
You're confusing federal govt spending with local government spending.You had me until cutting bike lanes and light rail. Can’t we cut bomb purchases and tax breaks for the rich first?
I'm curious since you did the report, were these all local Oregon natives living on the streets? Serious question. I don't want to speculate.You're confusing federal govt spending with local government spending.
MostlyI'm curious since you did the report, were these all local Oregon natives living on the streets? Serious question. I don't want to speculate.
I appreciate the thought but I don’t want the potentially crazy drug addict controlling the lights.I've had an idea for a while now to help put the homeless to work and also solve traffic issues in these cities at the same. Employ the homeless to manually operate stoplights. Most stoplights are horribly inefficient. How many times have you been stuck at a red light and there are no cars or pedestrians going the opposite way? Or having to sit through multiple iterations of a light because they dont stay green long enough in the busy direction. Happens all the time to me. The homeless are mostly just sitting at these corners anyway. So why not employ them to manually operate them to be more efficient and you solve two problems at once.
If only we had some kind of final solution to fix this.I appreciate the thought but I don’t want the potentially crazy drug addict controlling the lights.
I’d go with the cleaning up the city idea from above.
A great deal of homeless are simply mentally disturbed. There’s not really a great solution.
send them to Canada?If only we had some kind of final solution to fix this.
begging is a numbers game. it's all about the money.Is being homeless in a big city with a mild climate that much more appealing that being homeless in a rural area with a mild climate? If so, why?
As a Portland resident, I could get behind this. Problem is there would have to be management of those that are supposed to do the work. Good luck with that.portland resident. all my life. did a report on this in HS where i went all around portland filming and talking to homeless people, the shelters, social workers, police and local government.
I've seen the homeless situation my entire adult life, i live in portland, there are homeless people all around me.
biggest change in the homeless situation here in Portland is twofold. Major one is gov't mental health services are all but gone compared to 30 years ago. next major one in portland at least is the decision by mayor not to enforce camping laws on books, so we now have tent towns all over the place on sidewalks and grassy areas under overpasses etc. 3rd one is the continuing drug problems of society. I would estimate that 50-60% of the homeless population doesn't want to be homeless but reached a point in life they had no options. the other 40% approx is mentally ill people and or drug/alcohol issue people that end up homeless.
i have one idea how to solve the issue but i'm sure very few people would agree. Build (either public/private or combo) housing like dorms that they can live in the deal is this
for free room and board and 3 hot meals a day, all you have to do is work for 20 hrs week for the city doing beautification projects such as picking up litter on roadsides, covering graffiti, planting flowers here or there etc. that's for the people that don't want to be homeless and just need a hand. The other part of the dorms/facilities is mental health and drug/alcohol services where you can take the truly needy and help them
In this regard, you can give these people the help they need, remove and reverse most of the visual blight we currently are witnessing, and genuinely help solve the problem at the people level. I'd rather my tax money go to this than building new bike lanes or light rail services.
Well that got dark.If only we had some kind of final solution to fix this.
More panhandling and access to mind altering substances in Metro areas. Also more social services, including health care.Is being homeless in a big city with a mild climate that much more appealing that being homeless in a rural area with a mild climate? If so, why?
I cannot tell if you are joking or not, but that article is from 2015.
As someone who rarely agrees with you politically, this is a very good post. A lot of the people on the streets today would have been institutionalized 40 years ago.portland resident. all my life. did a report on this in HS where i went all around portland filming and talking to homeless people, the shelters, social workers, police and local government.
I've seen the homeless situation my entire adult life, i live in portland, there are homeless people all around me.
biggest change in the homeless situation here in Portland is twofold. Major one is gov't mental health services are all but gone compared to 30 years ago. next major one in portland at least is the decision by mayor not to enforce camping laws on books, so we now have tent towns all over the place on sidewalks and grassy areas under overpasses etc. 3rd one is the continuing drug problems of society. I would estimate that 50-60% of the homeless population doesn't want to be homeless but reached a point in life they had no options. the other 40% approx is mentally ill people and or drug/alcohol issue people that end up homeless.
i have one idea how to solve the issue but i'm sure very few people would agree. Build (either public/private or combo) housing like dorms that they can live in the deal is this
for free room and board and 3 hot meals a day, all you have to do is work for 20 hrs week for the city doing beautification projects such as picking up litter on roadsides, covering graffiti, planting flowers here or there etc. that's for the people that don't want to be homeless and just need a hand. The other part of the dorms/facilities is mental health and drug/alcohol services where you can take the truly needy and help them
In this regard, you can give these people the help they need, remove and reverse most of the visual blight we currently are witnessing, and genuinely help solve the problem at the people level. I'd rather my tax money go to this than building new bike lanes or light rail services.
yet all the mayors of the cities the OP listed, including NYC and Honolulu are all Democrats? coincidence?
I’m about to do the same on a couple weeks....anything there worth seeing? May go Sausalito for those days.Spend 2 days a few years ago as part of vacation in SF. Will never go back. Read a few articles saying city losing tourism dollars and major conferences...
Muir Woods are amazing and I always love the Ferry Building on a Saturday.I’m about to do the same on a couple weeks....anything there worth seeing? May go Sausalito for those days.
Rent bike near Fisherman’s Wharf ride over GG bridge to Sausalito have a beer take Ferry back.I’m about to do the same on a couple weeks....anything there worth seeing? May go Sausalito for those days.
I wouldn’t stay in the city unless you enjoy people beggging for handouts, urinating on streets, sleeping everywhere and doing drugs with police looking the other way. Would stay outside and travel in for sight seeing or a giant game which we enjoyed. Nice ballpark. I would also recommend Alcatraz.I’m about to do the same on a couple weeks....anything there worth seeing? May go Sausalito for those days.