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Even in open space he hasn't impressed me as a runner in the NFL though. As a college player he reminded me a lot of MJD. Short but stout, and with big thighs that let him run through tackles in the second level and keep up his speed. Haven't really seen that in the NFL at all.
Fair enough. I agree. I haven't been sold, either, but that's likely subject to confirmation bias on my end. I think he's done about what I thought he'd do. He's not chopped liver after all; he's a first-round pick with what I thought were serious warts. But when it comes down it, all of those guys that are RBs had some warts on them, and we're seeing it come to fruition in the games. We've seen negative parts of all their games but Dobbins, who is seemingly buried in Baltimore so far.
It hasn’t been very good. In redraft that could be an issue. Dynasty, they will fix Pat’s offense for him.
I was offered Ridley and Drake for him in redraft. I did not take it. I’m 1-3 and already frustrated with this season, and lll tell you what... Clyde is not going to blow up on someone else’s team.
I largely agree with this. I'm an LSU fan and to me the closest he looked like to college self was week 1 against the weakest defense they've faced so far. He's obviously not a power back, and he has better short area quickness than long speed. But I do think he provides some rushing value between the tackles -- not as a game-breaker but more as a yardage compiler. To me he started that week 1 game a little tight, but once he loosened up he was doing stuff I saw in college: patience at the line of scrimmage, slicing through traffic, and occasionally trucking someone. I think with more experience he'll be able to flash some of that against better defenses as well, but unless he takes a McCaffrey-like leap in strength after his first season he'll probably have some meaningful limitations as a rusher (and even then he won't have CMC's speed). I took him with a 1.1 rookie pick with the hopes that in this offense he would be a steady yardage producer with a high weekly floor, and I think that's what we are probably looking at as of now: a fairly reliable, eventual mid-range RB1 who is in an ideal offense for his skill set. If he's going to be more than that, then I agree it'll be because of receiving.
Really good comparison. I never thought of this one but that’s exactly who he reminds me of when I watch him. He is more slippery than Gio but he, more or less, plays very similarly and flat out looks like him a lot out there. I see zero Westbrook out there, which was one reason so many hyped him up- “better than Westbrook.”Demian said:
He had a TD last game that was called back on a penalty by Kelce that had nothin to do with the play. Obviously his owners don’t get credit for that but it just shows what a volatile stat TDs could be.
Exactly. In the last two games, in red zone, they are running wr sweeps over giving the ball to CEH. The guy has a slim chance to live up to predraft expectations.
Sure but let’s not pretend this doesn’t happen to others or that it happens more to CEH. All RBs are subject to this and many other RBs still convert more TDs. Zeke had a non-TD that should have been challenged as it was clear he was over the line. Pollard vultured it the next play
Hopefully no one. Bringing up a single called back TD doesn’t dispute anything about his lack of TDs unless he’s had a disproportionate number of TDs called back on penalties that had nothing to do with the play.
The point is that if he scores that TD then the panic isn't as high. Of course it happens multiple times each week - that's why TDs are a volatile stat - if he has 2 TDs after 5 games or he scores 3 TDs over the next two weeks (not saying that will happen) then this goes away.
Buying opp, he has been over valued since the moment he was drafted. Pendulum about to over correct.
After Barkley went down my chances in the league I have CEH went down anyway as I’m coming out of a rebuild. This obviously hurts him for this year but not long term and it will be fun to watch them both in KC and CEH should still see work.
Exactly. I think Bell is going to come in and have to earn his touches. It remains to be seen if he's capable of that.Could be worse. Could be a RB who’s been great for the last few years.
This sound like wishful thinking. Bell didn’t sign somewhere where he wasn’t promised a significant role. And KC sure as hell isn't going to bring him in to make him “earn his touches” after seeing the issues in NYJ after he felt he was being “mis-used.” Best-case scenario is a fairly even split, but Bell gets the most valuable touches: near the GL.
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That’s a good point; but Fournette isn’t Bell. And we don’t really know it wasn’t true for a Fournette. He didn’t play much his first week after just joining TB; greatly outperformed Jones in his 2nd game, then has been hurt since. So not sure your “exactly what Fournette owners were saying” point is completely relevant.
Agree, didn't even want to engage anyone who thinks CEH will be just fine and Bell will have a hard time earning touches, I don't think KC is bringing him in to kick the tires, they have a plan and he is the shot in the arm the offense needs right now. I doubt we see Bell under 4 yds per carry and I expect him to garner targets. Where those targets come from not sure but it could eat into targets people planned for WR2 and WR3 on this team.Dr. Octopus said:
Define "decent sized" relative to total total snaps. Assuming KC runs 70 offensive plays a game, let's say Clyde Edwards-Helaire plays 60% of them minimum (he hasn't played any less than that) - that would give him 42 plays. Let's say it's Week 8 and Bell has a game under his belt and claims 40% of the workload since KC runs 11 or 12 personnel at a 92% clip (not many situations they use 2 RBs at the same time), 28 snaps. Like I posted earlier, a 60-40 split is significant enough to cut into his role the last few weeks, but not soul-killing "NOOOO TRADE HIM AWAY" enough.Dr. Octopus said:
