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4 minutes ago, Godsbrother said:

Defense taking it on the chin today.   The draft just got a whole lot harder to predict now...

It's going to be interesting to see where the Steelers' money will go, because 2 years $6 million should have been a no-brainer for Alualu. Unless they know something us fans don't, the backup DTs let the run game fall apart when Alualu was out. 

Based on our losses, I think that Defense is very much in play early in this draft, but the talent might align with us taking OT in the 1st, and defense after that. Unless they want to take LB early to try and make the middle of the D very strong. 

So far, happy we resigned Sutton, and disappointed in the rest. Haven't seen confirmation of the Banner signing, but I'd be happy about that too. Not shocked that Feiler left, he was a great RT and an ok LG, whoever made that decision is not good at watching tape...

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2 minutes ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

Seems like a lot.

The only info I can find about it makes it seem like a $3 mil deal for 2021, and $6 mil for 2022 with only $1.5 mil guaranteed for 2022. $3 mil isn't much for a LT (or RT?), and if he works out and is solid, neither is $6 mil for next year. 

But I think Alualu at $9 mil helps our team more next year. I wonder if he wanted to go play with Lawrence and Urban, and thinks they might be better than the Steelers in the short term...

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3 minutes ago, Godsbrother said:

Vince Williams released

That saves $4 million against the cap. Kinda did him dirty by not releasing him before Monday so he could shop around. His cryptic tweet came true I guess, about the streets calling him. 

I'm not sure why they'd wait to release anyone, unless they went to him about a pay cut. Wonder if they're making room for a specific reason. 

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6 minutes ago, Godsbrother said:

Vince Williams released

Also, this increases my belief that the Steelers go LB early. If he's still on the board at our pick, I think Zaven Collins could def be our selection. And if the Steelers trade down to the end of the 1st, or early 2nd, Nick Bolton could be in play. He's not worth the 24th pick in my opinion. 

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3 minutes ago, steelers1080 said:

That saves $4 million against the cap. Kinda did him dirty by not releasing him before Monday so he could shop around. His cryptic tweet came true I guess, about the streets calling him. 

I'm not sure why they'd wait to release anyone, unless they went to him about a pay cut. Wonder if they're making room for a specific reason. 

I am wondering if JuJu or Al came back to the Steelers with a number after seeing what their market was and the Steelers are making room for one of them.

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1 minute ago, steelers1080 said:

Also, this increases my belief that the Steelers go LB early. If he's still on the board at our pick, I think Zaven Collins could def be our selection. And if the Steelers trade down to the end of the 1st, or early 2nd, Nick Bolton could be in play. He's not worth the 24th pick in my opinion. 

At this point it could be any position.

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1 minute ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

At this point it could be any position.

Agreed.  I do think the odds of drafting a LB went up significantly today although they still need help on the offensive line, RB and secondary.  Even a NT or TE.

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50 minutes ago, Godsbrother said:

Agreed.  I do think the odds of drafting a LB went up significantly today although they still need help on the offensive line, RB and secondary.  Even a NT or TE.

If they think Christian Barmore is going to be an All-Pro NT, I wouldn't hate taking him at 24. I know he's probably a 2-down guy, but I think that he's really freakin talented. 

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I wouldn't have minded Collins as their pick at 24 before any of the offseason stuff happened.  May be starting to pull for it now.  As iffy as the OL looks, they are now ludicrously thin at LB as of this date.

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8 hours ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

Kinda odd there aren’t more juju rumors out there, no?

 

Yeah I thought JuJu would be one of the first FA signings.   I guess he is asking for too much :moneybag:

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4 minutes ago, crushedspirit said:

So, Tomlin and Colbert spotted at Georgia pro day, checking on Azeez Ojulari. Are they truly going to repeat the yearly exacta box of OLB/WR again?

OLB/WR/O-Line/CB/S/QB

Everything we've drafted recently are still needs...

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We literally could draft every position out there.  There are holes, no real "next man up" or depth issues potentially at every position.  

Dline is aging and lacks depth

No depth at LB

Heir to Haden?  No depth

Edmonds likely gone after this year.  Nobody behind him.

No heir to Ben (Haskins??)

No RB

Ebron last year and nobody behind him

Oline has Dotson and DeCastro -- need new C and depth all over and potentially a new starting T

WR is the best room, even without JuJu. I'd rather sign Golden Tate or someone cheap and use picks to draft other spots, but then again we are SO good at drafing WRs, so I trust the team to find a stud if a late one is there this year.

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19 minutes ago, steelers1080 said:

OLB/WR/O-Line/CB/S/QB

Everything we've drafted recently are still needs...

Drafting a G or T in the 4th round or higher since 2012 has led them to the current issues up front. It might be time to change philosophy, especially since the last 4 seasons have produced 2 playoff one-and-done games at home. 

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49 minutes ago, crushedspirit said:

Drafting a G or T in the 4th round or higher since 2012 has led them to the current issues up front. It might be time to change philosophy, especially since the last 4 seasons have produced 2 playoff one-and-done games at home. 

They went heavy on O-line for a few years and netted DeCastro and Pouncey, I wouldn't be surprised if they do so again in the next few years, especially to protect Ben and any new QB. Strength in the trenches leads to success in January/February. 

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8 hours ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

Apparently juju is in Pittsburgh tonight. Packing up or signing documents?

Packing up, I hope.   I love JuJu but they have too many holes at other positions.

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3 hours ago, Godsbrother said:

Packing up, I hope.   I love JuJu but they have too many holes at other positions.

I don't know.  He is still only 24 and plays the game hard, blocks, makes tough catches.  Him, Claypool, and Johnson are a formidable trio.  Of course, it won't matter if the line can't protect or run block.  But I would rather have JuJu than not.

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5 minutes ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

I don't know.  He is still only 24 and plays the game hard, blocks, makes tough catches.  Him, Claypool, and Johnson are a formidable trio.  Of course, it won't matter if the line can't protect or run block.  But I would rather have JuJu than not.

I'm fully of the opinion that Fichtner was the reason for Juju's regression in stats, and not Juju himself. When targeted, he put up #s, and he was no longer allowed to operate on the outside. He played decently from the slot, but he's the type of WR who should be used with more flexibility and moved all over. There's rumors that the Steelers are trying to re-sign Big Al; I'll be so incredibly disappointed if they sign Big-Al, and it would have just taken a few more million to re-sign Juju. 

I can't tell who the offense mis-used more, Juju or Feiler. Feiler played excellent at RT, and they kicked him in to LG where he wasn't as strong. 

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11 minutes ago, steelers1080 said:

I'm fully of the opinion that Fichtner was the reason for Juju's regression in stats, and not Juju himself. When targeted, he put up #s, and he was no longer allowed to operate on the outside. He played decently from the slot, but he's the type of WR who should be used with more flexibility and moved all over. There's rumors that the Steelers are trying to re-sign Big Al; I'll be so incredibly disappointed if they sign Big-Al, and it would have just taken a few more million to re-sign Juju. 

I can't tell who the offense mis-used more, Juju or Feiler. Feiler played excellent at RT, and they kicked him in to LG where he wasn't as strong. 

That rumor seems to have originated with John Clayton.  Who used to be the Gold Standard, but now I feel like everything he says is wrong.

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37 minutes ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

I don't know.  He is still only 24 and plays the game hard, blocks, makes tough catches.  Him, Claypool, and Johnson are a formidable trio.  Of course, it won't matter if the line can't protect or run block.  But I would rather have JuJu than not.

As would I but not at the expense of filling holes at other positions that are of greater need.

I won't hate it if he is back but it is going to cost money that could be spent elsewhere or used to lock up TJ or Minkah to long term deals

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11 minutes ago, Godsbrother said:

As would I but not at the expense of filling holes at other positions that are of greater need.

I won't hate it if he is back but it is going to cost money that could be spent elsewhere or used to lock up TJ or Minkah to long term deals

The Steelers have plenty of $$ available in 2022 and beyond, if they fail to lock up Minkah or TJ, it's because they weren't ok with paying their asking price, not because it was unaffordable. 

Also, if they fail to extend TJ this offseason, that's almost criminal neglect... Minkah at least has a 5th year option for next year. 

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