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This was exactly my first though too, but obviously I have no idea if these five guys were vaccinated together or if they all got vaccinated in different places on their own. This case should definitely be looked into though.
I have flown a couple times since getting vaccinated. Everyone was wearing masks. However, I was fairly uncomfortable on my first flight. It was certainly weird to be in a crowd again. I was glad I did it though. Once you are fully vaccinated this is really not that risky.
What are you basing this on? Not saying you're wrong, just that my intuition was leaning strongly in the "this is statistically very weird" direction.
Some of these clusters like this make me wonder if the material had not gone bad, or was mishandled in some way.
How?
Over the long term, if all were exposed, yes. In such a short duration? Seems unlikely statistically.
As you start zooming out, five on one team's coaching staff probably becomes nothing more than statistical noise.
@parasaurolophus So I’m traveling with these n95s this week. Very comfortable. Way more than the other N95s I’ve worn. I also have the one with the other strap which i will test tomorrow.Will do. After wearing a regular N95 for like 8 hours straight this week per day(until it broke), something more comfortable is most definitely appreciated. I will let you know how it goes. I also have the jock strap one. i will admit its very comfortable.
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Today is my second trip. I have club access to i hide in there. When it’s time to board i stand away from the crowd and go when it’s my group but I’m group 1 so i get to go early.
I flew to Denver to go skiing the first weekend after my vaccine kicked in. I would not hesitate to do it again.
Have flown over a dozen times in the past year. No issues. Just mask up and be smart.
KN95 is the one I was most concerned about double masking. The cone shape could be so easily altered and break the seal around the face.@parasaurolophus So I’m traveling with these n95s this week. Very comfortable. Way more than the other N95s I’ve worn. I also have the one with the other strap which i will test tomorrow.
i saw a post where you mentioned not double masking with n95. I was planning to. But is there a good reason not to? My sister who is a doctor suggests it.
Well, it's two coaches and a staff member, not five. And according to that article, at least one of these cases is asymptomatic. Also, looks like the whole team got the J&J in early April.
I don't use this anecdote as a reason to not get vaccinated.
Are you saying you wear a mask in your own house around your own children all day every day?
No I think he’s talking about continuing to wear a mask in public because if he got it, he would spread it to his daughters. At least that’s how I read it.
Definitely a concern but not surprising. Clinical trials were conducted in a time when everyone was taking more precautions. They compare the infections of the control and test groups to determine the effectiveness. But the one thing they can’t control is the viral exposure.
Shouldn't he be wearing the mask at home to prevent spreading it to his children? Wearing one out and about and not wearing one at home makes even less sense if he's fully vaccinated.
My intuition was “yeah, that is probably within the realm of reasonability for the J&J vaccine.” But I would still enjoy reading a deeper analysis of the situation.
No. The point of wearing the mask in public is reducing the chances of bringing it home. I went to extreme lengths during the peak of the pandemic to reduce the chances of bringing it back to my family but never considered wearing a mask inside around my own family. Is that what you think people have been doing?
Funny this whole time I heard wearing a mask prevents you from spreading the virus to others MUCH more than it prevents you from getting the virus.
You've heard what you wanted to hear this whole time, which has almost always been wrong.
It should encourage some but it won’t. The message should be that the vaccine works so well that we can take the masks off. The message received will be that masks aren’t needed. It’s unlikely that anywhere will ask you to prove your vaccination status when you’re not wearing a mask so there’s not really a strong incentive for those who were already against getting vaccinated.
So does this really mean the pandemic is essentially over if you are fully vaccinated (with Pfizer and Moderna at least)?
Who cares. If you catch it at this point it's more or less on you. Unless of course you coach the Yankees.
Not necessarily. The pandemic still rages on world wide with possibilities of variants being created that will evade the vaccines. Nothing is guaranteed in the medium-long term but in.the short term it's a great day.
I saw a Tok Tok where someone said their smell just came back...but now EVERYTHING smells exactly the same,.whether it be their food, their poop, or anything else. Doesn't sound great.
Very true.
Pending the emergence of a resistant variant, yes. As soon as Pfizer and Moderna came back with their 95% effectiveness, this was expected. I didn’t believe it would happen this quickly but here we are.
Im thinking its more the latter. My wife refuses the get vaccinated. Weve had numerous arguments about it. I basically told her she's an idiot and Im gonna create a Tinder profile to be prepared. After this news she just said she wont be wearing a mask anymore without the vaccine.
Agreed. And I feel like a broken record on this point, but we seriously lucked out that this pandemic occurred just after we developed mRNA technology. If this outbreak had occurred just a few years ago, we probably would have been stuck with something like Sinovac, which is okay but probably would have slowed down our recovery substantially.
Thankfully it seems to be improving for me but yes, the things affected all smelled the same and judging by the descriptions, people may be experiencing almost the same smell. In my reading, when someone says it smells like covid, I think I know what they are referring to. But it isn't just restricted to covid as some people have had the condition for years after having a brain injury or even just a sinus infection. Most seem to recover after covid but some haven't even a year or more in. It really is a horrible thing and I hope my improvement continues. I've read plenty of people saying they thought they were well on their way to recovering before having an even worse relapse.
I fear Washington state will be at least this resistant, if not worse.so now the PA governor just said he will not follow CDC 'no mask required' guideline until the state hits 70% vaccinated, which will never happen.. ironically enough, it will be Philadelphia that will prevent it, because the city is only about 40% fully vaccinated..... this is going to be a cluster
