Claypool can be a weapon at WR for sure. If he is used tbe right way. He doesn't have that quick twitch speed but straight inline speed. His size and strength along with that will make him am automatic target in the red zone. His speed and size can threaten defenses for the rest of the field. I would love for him to fall to the third round and my Raiders take him as the second WR of the draft for us.
Steelers signed second-round WR Chase Claypool to a four-year contract.
A three-year starter for The Fighting Irish, Claypool (6’4/238) played nearly every position en route to finishing top-10 in school history with 19 touchdown receptions. Unpolished at the position due to his start in basketball, Claypool didn't turn heads until posting career-highs in receptions (66), yards (1,037), and touchdowns (13) on a 28 percent target share as a senior, further flying up draft boards with a sterling showing of elite speed (99th-percentile 4.42 forty) and hops (40.5-inch vertical) at Indy's Combine. On tape, he was a difficult tackle on underneath targets — PFF charted him with 27 broken tackles on 151 career catches — and buoyed his elite body control and size into 16 catches 20-plus yards downfield in 2019. Claypool will provide a mismatch on offense at the next level. Few prospects among this year's class sniff his upside.
Jul 24, 2020, 12:19 PM ET
He's worth a late 2nd, early 3rd. I dislike this type of thinking because even IF he does nothing, the person that drafted him isn't going to sell for some random 3-4th. Flawed logic, IMO.Next year is the year to go after him if you believe in him. He will be a lot cheaper because I don’t expect him to do much this year.
IDK JJ Arcega Whiteside owners drafted him early 2nd or even late 1st last year and now they seem to be selling for any 2nd and even early to mid 3rdsHe's worth a late 2nd, early 3rd. I dislike this type of thinking because even IF he does nothing, the person that drafted him isn't going to sell for some random 3-4th. Flawed logic, IMO.
This could be true, but it they let Juju walk, he'll likely be more expensive next off-season even if he does very little.Next year is the year to go after him if you believe in him. He will be a lot cheaper because I don’t expect him to do much this year.
Owners are inpatient by nature and if he doesn't do anything in 2020, he can be had cheap next year (not that he was expensive this year). One caveat is whether Ju-Ju is on the team this time next year.He's worth a late 2nd, early 3rd. I dislike this type of thinking because even IF he does nothing, the person that drafted him isn't going to sell for some random 3-4th. Flawed logic, IMO.
No matter how you slice it they should have taken Dobbins. First, there is no comparing the talent, 2nd, they need better RBs more than WRs, third, not that Conner is anything special because he can't stay on the field, but he's gone after this season IMO.
So is JuJu and WR>RB.No matter how you slice it they should have taken Dobbins. First, there is no comparing the talent, 2nd, they need better RBs more than WRs, third, not that Conner is anything special because he can't stay on the field, but he's gone after this season IMO.
Completely agree. Easy to say go get him next offseason but that is highly league/owner dependant. People say this about young TEs all the time too and it’s largely bad advice. Worked with JJAW maybe because he’s not very good.He's worth a late 2nd, early 3rd. I dislike this type of thinking because even IF he does nothing, the person that drafted him isn't going to sell for some random 3-4th. Flawed logic, IMO.
If JuJu leaves next season Claypool will be more expensive than now even if he does close to nothing this year. The latter being rather unlikely as well.Completely agree. Easy to say go get him next offseason but that is highly league/owner dependant. People say this about young TEs all the time too and it’s largely bad advice. Worked with JJAW maybe because he’s not very good.
With Claypool, why not go after him where he’s going? He’s insanely cheap given his profile and I doubt he’s going to get cheaper. IMO he has the most upside if anyone in the range he’s being drafted.
I thought both of these guys were over rated by the fantasy community as prospects.IDK JJ Arcega Whiteside owners drafted him early 2nd or even late 1st last year and now they seem to be selling for any 2nd and even early to mid 3rds
On his board someone got him for a random 4th in 2022
Parris Campbell owners likely spent a late 1st and now he is going at a late 2nd/early 3rd despite not even looking bad--just repeatedly hurt
If you have a true believer in the player draft him--then yes: it will be tough to buy on the dip, but otherwise very possible
[If] Chase does what we expect him to do and that’s make plays early and often, Chase is going to play a lot. He’s going to be really good, and that’s what we expect from a lot of those guys… You can’t teach 6’4, 238, 4.41 electric time. That’s just something that doesn’t fall off of a tree. You get a chance to harness that kind of talent and kind of shape it and mold it into something that can be really really special. I think that as an organization, we all kind of chomped at the bit. And he can do so much for the football team and effect the football team in a positive manner outside of playing receiver. We love that. We’re gonna love his physicality, his playmaking ability and his feet.”
I like Campbell, but ahead of Deebo is a bit too rich for me.I'm personally still high on Campbell. I think I have him ahead of Deebo in dynasty too.
He's buried this year with basically no training camp.Haven't we leaned not to doubt Pittsburgh when they draft a day 2 WR?
I feel like Deja Vu again, just one year after scooping Diontae in the early 3rd round of rookie drafts...
https://twitter.com/bepryor/status/1295459782350995461?s=21Brooke Pryor @bepryor
In his first NFL practice in pads, rookie Chase Claypool looked pretty solid. During some drills early in practice, he made a leaping catch in the corner of the end zone -- something we should expect to see more of from the red zone target.
The Athletic's Mark Kaboly raves that second-round WR Chase Claypool continues to make "non-rookie-like" plays.
"Practice after practice, the rookie is making non-rookie-like plays after running non-rookie-like routes and making non-rookie-like catches," were Kaboly's exact words. "Claypool just keeps showing up." An imposing physical presence, Claypool has apparently also made a habit of corralling "leaping" catches. Claypool probably won't see enough rookie targets to make a consistent re-draft impact, but especially with JuJu Smith-Schuster's Pittsburgh future uncertain, the second-rounder is someone you can be excited about in Dynasty leagues.
SOURCE: The Athletic
Aug 24, 2020, 10:15 PM ET
I believe we will be saying this about more rookies than anyone wants to admit.I like him as a prospect but he's a bit buried this year. I wouldn't draft him unless he fell into my lap but I would trade for him as a throw in week 10 when he has 25 targets.
Yeah I agree. Tough spot for the rookie WR this year.I believe we will be saying this about more rookies than anyone wants to admit.
Dynasty players always overvalue rookies compared to redraft players.Yeah I agree. Tough spot for the rookie WR this year.
Guilty as chargedDynasty players always overvalue rookies compared to redraft players.
Me too. That's why I don't play redraft. After playing dynasty for so many years I would suck at redraft now for that very reason.Guilty as charged
Playing dynasty has made me a better redraft player, at least in part by having a better sense of where rookies will stack up than my redraft competition, who have largely not heard of many of these guys.Me too. That's why I don't play redraft. After playing dynasty for so many years I would suck at redraft now for that very reason.
Echo, but outside of elite prospects I rarely have a shot to draft I don't typically draft rookies with year one expectations anyway. So playing dynasty enhances my awareness, but doesn't usually effect decision making.barackdhouse said:Playing dynasty has made me a better redraft player, at least in part by having a better sense of where rookies will stack up than my redraft competition, who have largely not heard of many of these guys.
So yes there is a danger I am overvaluing (some) rookies but in my experience they are undervalued by my league mates in redraft.
Yeah I should be more specific. I will target rookie RBs and have done very well with them. They go much cheaper than they often should in redraft. Taylor, Dobbins and Akers all seem like screaming values right now. They are costly from a redraft strategy POV, though, in the sense that to draft them that high you *are* counting on them. I usually can draft strong enough to weather an early season break-in period for a rookie back. This year who knows but I still like those guys at their ADP. I'd probably prefer Mostert, Carson or Conner in my lineup but in many spots I can draft one of that group *and* one of the rookies.Echo, but outside of elite prospects I rarely have a shot to draft I don't typically draft rookies with year one expectations anyway. So playing dynasty enhances my awareness, but doesn't usually effect decision making.
I think my blind spot is giving up on guys if they don't develop quickly enough.
In my big auction redraft (a somewhat different animal) I am usually able to get one or two of the better rookie RBs for pretty darn cheap. 2017 was a banner year with Hunt and Kamara for 18 and 5 respectively, as winning bids out of a 200 budget. I think Miles Sanders went for maybe 15 last year.Echo, but outside of elite prospects I rarely have a shot to draft I don't typically draft rookies with year one expectations anyway. So playing dynasty enhances my awareness, but doesn't usually effect decision making.
I think my blind spot is giving up on guys if they don't develop quickly enough.
JohnnyU said:I believe we will be saying this about more rookies than anyone wants to admit.
Can you give us the odds on what you think the likelihood of the rumors being true are?Milkman said:Situation might get a whole lot better if the rumors I'm hearing are true. I get crushed in here if I post them and don't post a source so I'll just keep them to myself but regardless he's my #1 WR in this draft. I do not own him anywhere either.
I do what I want.Why even post stuff like this? Say it or stay 100% quiet...
If and when it happens you'll know that's what I was talking about. It's a good source but fluid situation.Can you give us the odds on what you think the likelihood of the rumors being true are?
25%? 50%? Other?
Thanks for ####### nothing. If you are unwilling to offer even a rudimentary probability, then this “information” is less than useless.If and when it happens you'll know that's what I was talking about. It's a good source but fluid situation.
You know where the ignore button is. Ignore away.Thanks for ####### nothing. If you are unwilling to offer even a rudimentary probability, then this “information” is less than useless.