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He is also a bit out there. That whole prescribed coma and trip to Russia is odd.Jordan Peterson is enlightening. Thank you for turning me on to this GG.
He is also a bit out there. That whole prescribed coma and trip to Russia is odd.Jordan Peterson is enlightening. Thank you for turning me on to this GG.
People on the left hand side of the political spectrum tend to be split into a "liberal" wing (more centrist) and a "progressive" wing (more left-wing). Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, and most other Democrats are liberals, not leftists. People who write for The Nation are progressives, not liberals. I don't want to get too hung up on labels -- some people on the left would prefer to describe themselves as radicals, Marxists, Leftists, or something like that, but I'm just going to toss them all under the term "progressive" because it sounds less confrontational and it's just an easy way to distinguish between people like Bill and Hillary Clinton on one hand and Angela Davis on the other.I apologize for getting in late on this. Can you elaborate more on the bolded?
Maybe it's semantics or splitting hairs and I also don't spend much time thinking about this but I found both of those things somewhat surprising.
I normally do think of woke as more a liberal thing. And I don't normally think of liking capitalism as an especially liberal thing.
I have avoided this thread like the plague and don't plan on changing that, but thanks for the opportunity.It would probably be good for somebody like @fatguyinalittlecoat to read through that for accuracy and fairness. I'm trying to be fair in describing these camps, but I'm writing as an outsider to both.
Good call!I have avoided this thread like the plague and don't plan on changing that
Why do you want to cancel the Cancel Culture thread!?!I have avoided this thread like the plague and don't plan on changing that, but thanks for the opportunity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WokeI apologize for getting in late on this. Can you elaborate more on the bolded?
Maybe it's semantics or splitting hairs and I also don't spend much time thinking about this but I found both of those things somewhat surprising.
I normally do think of woke as more a liberal thing. And I don't normally think of liking capitalism as an especially liberal thing.
I think the point is there are a ton of books that insult the sensibilities of some or many that haven't gotten this treatment - yet. Karl Marx, Nabokov, Machiavelli, the list goes on. This is purely reactionary and the road it goes down is very, very slippery. After all, Dr. Seuss is about as milquetoast as it gets.this is a really good callout, as was @whoknew (I think) calling our Huck Finn. not terribly consistent.
The Dr. Seuss estate decided not to publish the works any longer. Basically an incredibly effective marketing ploy. I don't see the need for outrage here.I think the point is there are a ton of books that insult the sensibilities of some or many that haven't gotten this treatment - yet. Karl Marx, Nabokov, Machiavelli, the list goes on. This is purely reactionary and the road it goes down is very, very slippery. After all, Dr. Seuss is about as milquetoast as it gets.
There should be vanishingly few books that are removed from public consumption (stuff like The Anarchist's Cookbook, for example).
The actions of our biggest sellers - Amazon, Ebay, etc. are much more concerning and essentially comprise a digital book burning.The estate that runs Dr. Seuss's estate decided not to publish the works any longer. Basically an incredibly effective marketing ploy. I don't see the need for outrage here.
From who?. This is purely reactionary
You mean, like this?and you have 24 hours to NOT talk about the GOP voting down an incredibly popular piece of legislation to help millions of Americans, so this is what you talk about.
It seems that eBay's justification is that Mein Kampf has not been disavowed by Hitler's estate.So somehow Mein Kampf doesn't promote hatred and violence, but If I Ran the Zoo does?
HFS these people are absolutely bat#### crazy.
You're forgetting the college kids who wrote that term paper 2 years ago.From who?
There was no progressive push to cancel Dr. Seuss.
Is anyone else aware of this???
This is a massive misrepresentation at best, and a lie at worst. You know why it was voted down yet you still want to push this narrative? Who is falling for what again? I suggest you subscribe to more than one source for you information.From who?
There was no progressive push to cancel Dr. Seuss.
Is anyone else aware of this???
This is just War on Christmas--this year's model. You have a 24 hour news channel, and you have 24 hours to NOT talk about the GOP voting down an incredibly popular piece of legislation to help millions of Americans, so this is what you talk about.
Doesn't mean you have to fall for it.
It's popular, there are multiple polls showing more than 50% of Republicans support it.This is a massive misrepresentation at best, and a lie at worst. You know why it was voted down yet you still want to push this narrative? Who is falling for what again? I suggest you subscribe to more than one source for you information.
https://nypost.com/2021/03/02/decision-to-pull-dr-seuss-books-followed-study-accusing-author-of-racism/The origin of this Dr. Seuss mess has nothing to do with a liberal woke Twitter mob.
Has anyone pointed that out?
I appreciate you proving my point.https://nypost.com/2021/03/02/decision-to-pull-dr-seuss-books-followed-study-accusing-author-of-racism/
The family of author Theodor Seuss Geisel told the Associated Press on Tuesday that the decision to pull the books from publication followed a lengthy review of feedback from “teachers, academics and specialists.”
Moar evidence but no evidence, amirite, G?https://nypost.com/2021/03/02/decision-to-pull-dr-seuss-books-followed-study-accusing-author-of-racism/
The family of author Theodor Seuss Geisel told the Associated Press on Tuesday that the decision to pull the books from publication followed a lengthy review of feedback from “teachers, academics and specialists.”
Probably the same people as these experts."Specialists"
The mind boggles at the thought. The human resources crew. Experts in diversity training. The wokest of the woke. Who knows what woke lies in the hearts of men? "And womxyn!"
Also on Twitter.Probably the same people as these experts.
Critics are condemning a decision to no longer publish six Dr. Seuss books, but experts say a reckoning with his racist works is long overdue.
Experts
https://www.wsj.com/articles/even-homer-gets-mobbed-11609095872Moar evidence but no evidence, amirite, G?
Oh yeah, like I said, before there were cries that this is just a ploy to distract people on the right, we had this same damn argument about Dr. Seuss on this very board three years ago. The people on this board still interested in telling you the left has nothing to do with this are complete gaslighters on the issue, and nothing else.https://www.wsj.com/articles/even-homer-gets-mobbed-11609095872
#DisruptTexts and Learning for Justice are two groups that have been lobbying against Dr. Suess for the last few years. Whether that constitutes a “mob”? I guess that’s in the eye of the beholder.
I see social media posts acting like this Dr Suess book silliness is happening because Biden is President and I think some actually believe there was some kind of bill in Congress to cancel.The origin of this Dr. Seuss mess has nothing to do with a liberal woke Twitter mob.
Has anyone pointed that out?
Step 1:Seuss estate decides to stop publishing books.
Conservatives show their displeasure by..............purchasing a bunch of Dr. Seuss books, and financially rewarding them.
Yeah, because nobody hasn't put this on blast for three years.Step 1:Steal underpants.Enrage/trigger the people who loved to be enraged by believing "snowflakes" are enraged.
Step 2:
Step 3: Profit!
Really kind of genius if you think about it.
He did it because government officials read the anti-racism book for years and have now, uh, cancelled the readings. In the true meaning of 'cancelled'. Like I said, the GOP does the anti-cancel culture people no favors by attaching its diminished name to the cause.
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy reads Green Eggs and Ham by Dr. Seuss after the children's author's estate announced six of his books — with Green Eggs and Ham not among the titles — will no longer be published due to racist imagery.
https://twitter.com/GOPLeader/status/1368011754425483265 (video clip at link)
I was making a South Park joke.Yeah, because nobody hasn't put this on blast for three years.
Nice post. Too bad you don't know anything about the back story and how long we've been arguing with liberal lawyers on this board about Seuss. Henry Ford was always ready to take up the charge against outraging the people who loved to be outraged, too. Similar argument, three years later, books now gone. Sounds like one side won while engaging the other for even paying attention
Now he would drop date rape drugs in the cat's cucumber hard seltzer. He then would feel her up, only to find out shes transitioning.I always thought the point of Pepe lepew was that was NOT how it was done. His behavior was bad and never worked.
SubscribeNow he would drop date rape drugs in the cat's cucumber hard seltzer. He then would feel her up, only to find out shes transitioning.
Too late, the company learned their lesson decades ago and dropped the Frito Bandito in response to complaints by Latinos who found it extremely offensive.Lets all boycott Pepsi/Frito Lay for truly offensive Frito Bandito commercials from the 60's. That'll teach em.
Yeah, your issues with comprehension completely missed the sarcasm inherent in his voice about boycotting now what a product in the '60s advertised. But you keep on truckin'.Too late, the company learned their lesson decades ago and dropped the Frito Bandito in response to complaints by Latinos who found it extremely offensive.
cancelled for not using “latinxs”Too late, the company learned their lesson decades ago and dropped the Frito Bandito in response to complaints by Latinos who found it extremely offensive.
Tim, regarding Dr. Seuss....what do you think of this articles views on SeussAnd now we get to the heart of the matter: telling the truth about people is not the same as tarnishing their reputations, because people are complicated, history is complicated, and we need to recognize that as a society:
1. Thomas Jefferson was one of our greatest Americans, essential to our liberty, and also a slaveowner.
2. Abraham Lincoln was our greatest President, saved the Union, freed the slaves, and he was also a horrible racist who wanted to deport every black person living here.
3. Winston Churchill was the greatest leader of the 20th century who saved western civilization. He was also a horrible racist who deliberately starved to death millions of Indians.
4. Dr. Seuss was a great liberal and a magnificent writer. So was Roald Dahl. They were both anti-semites and racists.
Etc. ALL of this can be true. We should embrace these contradictions rather than pretend they don’t exist.
Was he a Republican? Asking for a friend.
I think it’s a great article, and demonstrates that people are complex.
I’m guessing that any kid who refers to himself as “superstraight” is doing a little more than simply professing an attraction to girls. I’m guessing there’s some bigoted anti-gay stuff in there somewhere.Canceled
The 16 year old boy, whose TikTok video about how he's attracted to girls started the #superstraight hashtag, has revealed he's removed it because trans activists have sent his mother death threats (and have written negative reviews of her business to try and destroy it)
Superstraight