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The Falcons defense has been a dumpster fire in 7 of the past 9 seasons, ranking in the 20's most years and all the way down to 32nd in the league. Even in their Super Bowl season, they scored 100 points more than 30 other teams, but they couldn't overcome their porous defense. Not to beat a dead horse, but taking a successor to Ryan won't fix anything.
True. But are they really going to be contenders in the next 2 years?
I already explained and outlined why I think having someone sit for 2 years is counterproductive, that Ryan could be productive well past 2 years, that UNNAMED ROOKIE QB could take years to MAYBE be as productive as Ryan, and that trading Ryan will logistically be much harder than it looks. No point in belaboring and rehashing that all again.
Ya I'm not disagreeing with you. I think it would be dumb to sit a rookie behind Ryan for 2 yrs. So I agree that they either move on from him now or after 1 season and go qb, or trade the pick.
Yes, joking about something with an obvious tongue-in-cheek emoticon is obviously trolling. Good job, inspector.
Ryan isn't a trade option this year because of his contract. He's not exactly a trade option next year either for the same reason. The Falcons are saddled with Ryan until 2023, so they have to build around him whether they like it or not.
Ya, fair. So many holes though, they're better off to trade back and pick up lots of defensive talent than simply taking Sewell there.
It wasn’t their porous defense that cost them that game it was terrible play-calling on offense with the lead.
I will grant you that poor play calling and execution on offense was a huge part of ATL losing the SB. But the defense allowed 350+ yards of offense across 5 consecutive TD drives by NE to end the game in 27 minutes of football. So sure, if the Falcons got one more first down on offense they likely would of won. But they had 5 tries to get a stop on defense and couldn’t. No matter what the offense did or didn’t do, the defense was next to invisible at the end of that game.
But the Falcons wouldn’t have got those 5 tries at getting a stop on defense if Shanahan didn’t choke the game away with his play-calling.
I wasn’t trying to comment at all about the offense, as I have been saying all along that the offense hasn’t been the problem and therefore doesn’t need to be blown up and Ryan removed as QB.
That says the Niners love Wilson, but it doesn’t say they traded up with the expectation they’d get him.
Yes, I suppose it was poor wording, and I have edited it, but later on in the article it says they’re still looking for ways to pull it off.
Doesn’t sound realistic unless Wilson pulls an Eli Manning. I mean, I’m sure SF would love it even more if Trevor Lawrence were available at #3.
Just because Wilson had his pro day a couple weeks before fields doesn’t mean the Jets are taking him. As I mentioned upthread, about 1/2 of the mocks in Jan/Feb had fields as the #2 qb, and a lot as #2 pick.
As we've seen this year teams will take a dead cap hit to get out from under a QB, I don't think we can say with certainty that the Falcons are married to Ryan beyond this year.
Interesting. I really thought all this Jones stuff was smoke. That would be so bold to pick that guy at 3. I get he likely wouldn't be there at 12 and you can't take that risk, but couldn't they have given up only a single first rounder to philly for the 6th pick?? Were they really worried about Atlanta or a Dolphins trade partner taking Mac in the top 4 picks?Faust said:
If this is true this is not good in my opinion. That's way to high for Jones. A guy that has a lot of red flags. Mortgage the future for that kind of risk is a crazy move
Here is his contract...if I am reading it correctly the dead cap hit for 21 and 22 is monstrous:Foosball God said:
It would really hurt that philosophy of winning while the QB is on a rookie deal with Ryan's deal hanging over this...I could see Lance making some sense since he is so raw and would need a lot of seasoning before taking over but I can't see Ryan being happy becoming a place-holder...would not be surprised to see the Falcons cash in on this pick with a QB needy team.
My gut says picking Pitts makes ATL an automatic playoff team but my brain says drafting surtain immediately turns around that defense. So either selection makes the falcons better from the jump but picking a qb hopefully will pay dividends in a few seasons. If I was a fan of that team I would want either of the first 2 options probably leaning toward pitts.
And you have Panthers/Broncos both probably willing to talk. Two teams should mean they get a premium. And at 8/9, you get to still get one of the top non-QB players.
They may do this if they don't go QB at 4 but I think if they do that Atlanta will do what I keep hearing people say they won't and that is get rid of Ryan via trade or release after the 2021 season.
I should have read this first before I posted.
Even if he told them the 49ers would be stupid to believe it. Saleh isn't the decision maker and word is that Douglass hasn't told ANYONE who he is taking, just like the Browns did in 2018.
Yes, a rookie tight end will make the team with the 4th overall pick an automatic playoff team.
YepYes, a rookie tight end will make the team with the 4th overall pick an automatic playoff team.
Drafting a pass catcher at 4 in the face of teams offering multiple firsts to move up a few spots would be absolute malpractice, given the hit rate of these picks. That doesn't mean it won't happen, of course.
Maybe Ryan will restructure? Ryan still seems like a good enough QB. I can’t believe that ATL doesn’t address the D with the pick or move back and then address the D with both picks.
The problem for ATL is they guaranteed Ryan $94.5 million with $46.5 million of it as a signing bonus. But at the time they gave him an extension, they made his cap hit relatively low and pushed most of the cap hit into the future.
What if CAR and DEN don't think Mac or Lance is a top 10 guy?
