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Again, I didn’t write the second part. At worst I wrote that if you agree with Trump about Charlottesville you condone bigotry, NOT if you continue to support Trump- huge difference. Many many people continued to support Trump after Charlottesville without agreeing with him, and they were not bigots, I would NEVER have said they were. You got it wrong my friend.
1. It's likely it was deleted if it was reported
Werent you just arguing yesterday that people voted for trump because they wanted to preserve being the status majority race?
It wasn’t an argument. It was several studies and polls that suggested it was an important factor (though not the only factor.)
Sigh. Last post on this because I’m getting tired of it (and frankly bored.) I didn’t just say Trump was a bigot. I said that if you fully agreed with Trump on specific issues like Charlottesville, then you were also a bigot. I also said that if you were aware of Trump’s bigotry and continued to support him, then you were condoning bigotry even if you yourself was not a bigot. And I pointed out repeatedly that the vast majority of Trump supporters were NOT bigots, but that this fact made them either ignorant of Trump’s bigotry or willing to let it go (condoning it in other words.)
Just because threads got purged doesn't mean history was purged with it. People know the accusations that were thrown out.
No. We absolutely disagree on that. Just because something can't be looked up doesn't mean it didn't happen, nor that people shouldn't remember and say something about it. If PRAVDA purged the years 1930-1935 from all historical reference, it doesn't mean those years and reporting didn't happen. Just because this site purges and removes threads absolutely does not change what was said.
Point being that was not the case when this started, nobody knew about the purge. He quoted an exact saying then was unwilling to back it up. Not cool. Secondly, at this point it’s he said he said.
I didn’t say it didn’t happen. I in fact said it could have but I didn’t remember him ever saying that. But again my point is before we knew history had been purged Mike made an inflammatory statement about some one else, quoted a supposed exact statement then was unwilling to back up the accusations. That’s pure weak sauce. Back your #### up if you’re going to start flinging it. Had he tried then found the history was gone it would be another thing. But he wasn’t even willing.
I knew about the purge. And we've all backed him up now. 5 posters remember the exact same thing. VERIFIED.
I’m talking about Mikes actions from the start Tony. Not about whether Tim may or may not have said it. I’ve said 5 times now he could have I just don’t remember him doing it. Can’t make that any more clear. The fact is if someone was making accusations about something you said but then wouldn’t back it up you’d call it weak too. You know it.
Again, Tim wasn't the only one. There are NUMEROUS posters in here who have played/still play that card. And I only got here what? A year ago? I can only imagine what it was like back in 2016.
This is a garbage lie and you’re the lowest of the low for repeating it. At this point if I get suspended I don’t care.
Exactly. Not trying to quote him word for word and get caught up in the semantics but I've seen him accuse posters of being racist several times.
Generalization? What the hell are you talking about. This is a very specific thing. The opposite of generalizing. Do you just post to hear yourself or something?it's amusing that some who are railing on Tim for supposedly throwing out generalizations also post generalizations about the other side.
it's almost like we should just stop doing that crap altogether.
a post about making a generalization about a group of people around here.
Maybe. But I’ve been here well over 10 years and really feel like this place is made up overwhelming of good people, both right, left, conservative, liberal, Trump supporting or not. So it is surprising to me.
No it's both, but, very specific to posters in here. At individuals. That the bigger rub I think.
You’re a liar. @supermike80is a liar. @rockactionis a nice guy (something I can’t say about either of you) but he has got his details wrong.
I don't hate tim at all. I was just going on what I remembered, because I really thought it was out of line at the time and made a mental note of it.
I could be blurring the details of what I'm supposed to be mad about.
rockaction is a good guy and I have no problems with him at all. I differ with him on the details of what I wrote a few years back but that’s fine.
I probably feel more simpatico about tim than most of the posters he's disagreeing with. Probably easily. I like tim. I just think it's important to remember what was said for posterity. That they make the search function impossible and finding stuff like a needle in a haystack is problematic at times. And like I've said, perhaps memory is faulty. But I remembered, in the ACLU thread, that Bottomfeeder Sports was all over me, quite wrongly, back in 2012 or 2013 and was right about my memory there, too. Certain things stick in my craw. The only thing that gives me pause was I was still drinking back then and might have messed up the nuance of what tim was saying, but I doubt it. I remember thinking it was unhinged and not right. And it was repeated on multiple occasions, I thought.KarmaPolice said:
timschochet said:
I get it, like I said - hate was a strong word, and was going to post that I wasn't specifically taking about you RA. just in general feels like there are a handful of posters that rub each other the wrong way.
That doesn't make any sense. I'm not sure what you're getting at here.KarmaPolice said:
Let them suspend me. If these guys lie about me and insult me and nothing happens to them, and I call them garbage for doing it (which they are) and get suspended, so be it. I won’t take back a word.
tim did nothing wrong and shouldn't be suspended. Nobody is trolling anybody. These guys have a real grievance from past slights, real or perceived. If they're wrong, then they're wrong.
