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RB Sony Michel (1 Viewer)
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What is the price for anyone thinking about taking advantage of the news and moving their Michel share - possible to the Henderson owner? I would for a 2nd but think it might be difficult at that price. For a 3rd I'm more inclined to hold and see things shake out. Thoughts? Michel and a 3 for a 2nd?
Leroy Hoard
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foxco
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Hot Sauce Guy
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Michael has been a tough sell over the years.
In this case it feels like the Henderson owners largely lucked into a lottery ticket, so I don’t know how eager they’ll be to pay something to insure what was a cheap RB1 for them. If Henderson ends up more like a RB2, he was still likely a very cheap lotto ticket that hit.
if I had Henderson I doubt I’d invest in Michel.
As a Michel owner I’m just hoping for some minor bump or bruise to give Sony a start or 2 so I can get max value. Which is likely a future 2nd, IF that happens.
Hot Sauce Guy
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I was already getting higher on Harris based on preseason usage. Harris was dominating touches.
not thrilled about this breaking 3 days before my draft. Hopefully people’s mistrust of all things Pats RBs allows me to get Harris late. He’s not a bad RB4. With Sony gone he’s got Flex appeal, unless Stevenson dominates GL
Tau837
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I haven't seen this mentioned. Under McVay, the Rams have traditionally done a lot more zone blocking than gap blocking in the running game. At least since Michel got to New England, the Patriots have done a lot more gap blocking than zone blocking. Does anyone know how well Michel does in one vs. the other?
Given that the Rams obviously scouted him before trading for him, I assume this won't be a negative for him, but wondering if it has the potential to be a big positive if he actually performs better in a zone blocking scheme.
Given that the Rams obviously scouted him before trading for him, I assume this won't be a negative for him, but wondering if it has the potential to be a big positive if he actually performs better in a zone blocking scheme.
Anarchy99
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I don't have a definitive answer for you, but some people questioned whether Michel would be a good fit in the Rams scheme when his name popped up as a potential trade acquisition when Akers went down. I don't know if those folks had an informed opinion or if they were just taking a guess.
nittanylion
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Anybody know what kind of a running scheme they ran at Georgia during Sony's tenure there?
I'd want a lot more than that for Michel. I think a high 2nd makes sense right now. Maybe Michel and a 2 for a 1 if an owner is desperate for a RB.
I think its at least 50-50 Michel is the RB to own on the Rams this season. I think he's worth a wait and see, because its possible Henderson faceplants, and Michel is the starter for arguably the most fantasy RB friendly in the NFL.
Hot Sauce Guy
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massraider
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I was just thinking this. Henderson is no sure thing.
If he cannot handle a workload, or if the Rams think he can't, then Michel becomes kind of interesting. Maybe the Rams don't think he's a 200+ carry guy. For where Michel will go in redraft, there aren't too many backs going there where you can get to 600 yards and 6 TDs easily.
As a Michel owner, this is good news, because he gets away from BB a year early. So we get to see a year early if he'll have any long term value. ATL would probably be the #1 spot, but a better team with opportunity as it stands.
Anarchy99
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Even as someone with injury issues, Michel was a 200-250 carry back his first two seasons in NE. He certainly has played the role of a heavy usage back before and has more NFL experience than Henderson. I can't speak to Henderson's skills and abilities (can't say I've seen much of Henderson), but Michel certainly has him beat in experience and workload.
Michel's biggest liability is his balky knee, which at one point was said to be a chronic condition that might not ever go away. From what I remember reading, he's had surgeries to try to make things more manageable, but it became a pain tolerance issue. THIS YEAR, he's been healthy in camp and looking more like he did in college and overall looking a lot better. Maybe his knee got a little better, but his been able to practice a lot more than he did in previous training camps.
That being said, caveat emptor, things could easily swing back to "out with injury" or "hampered by injury" in a moment's notice. But healthy he is a decent producer . . . even if he doesn't provide game changing speed.
They were only together one year, 2015, but it was a good year by Sony and I'd read a few things earlier today ranging from Sony has continued to have a relationship with the coach, Thomas Brown who was a RB in Georiga as well and a lot of speculation his input was a big factor in the trade-which come to think of it is a bit juicy.
Hot Sauce Guy
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TheDirtyWord
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Former 1st round pick who may be over his injury issues and showed well last year, gets traded to Sean McVay with only Darrell Henderson in the backfield to compete for touches and aside from some chatter the day of the trade, this thread has been silent for 2 weeks?
What am I missing?
What am I missing?
SeniorVBDStudent
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Henderson has a slight edge in demonstrated receiving ability but Michel's rushing production has been clearly better (on a unit basis). Belichick, being a master manipulator, put out preseason tape this year when Michel's receiving skills had shown marked improvement. Michel, like Gurley, has an arthritic knee which basically makes him a ticking time bomb. Having said that, the Rams can probably get at least two good seasons out of Michel IF they decide to push transition of lead back. I dont know if the carry distribution will be 220/140 or 140/220 this year. I don't think McVay knows....yet.Former 1st round pick who may be over his injury issues and showed well last year, gets traded to Sean McVay with only Darrell Henderson in the backfield to compete for touches and aside from some chatter the day of the trade, this thread has been silent for 2 weeks?
What am I missing?
Hot Sauce Guy
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He’s unlikely to know much of the playbook yet, which can be pretty complex, the coach continues to talk up Henderson as his guy, and I’m not sure it’s possible for Sony to get over his injury since it’s a chronically arthritic knee. Basically the same injury that derailed / ended Gurley’s career.Former 1st round pick who may be over his injury issues and showed well last year, gets traded to Sean McVay with only Darrell Henderson in the backfield to compete for touches and aside from some chatter the day of the trade, this thread has been silent for 2 weeks?
What am I missing?
I’m not seeing a heavy workload from Sony week 1, and if Henderson shows well, it might keep Sony on the bench more.
I’m not sure Sony will get a ton of carries regardless, because again, that knee could become an issue with a heavy workload.
Only time will tell what’s what, but McVay keeps saying Henderson is the man.
Hot Sauce Guy
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Once again, I should have read your post before responding. lol - obviously I agree.
Team Smokin'
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Anybody buying yet? Once the bye weeks start and if a top tier RB goes down then perhaps Sony will give ya something in desperation mode vs. what else is left? He seems to be the highest rated RB on the board and since Fuller is out (moved to IR spot) I have one player to add. Since I only have 3 RB's on this team, kinda makes sense to add Sony vs. a handcuff like Damien Williams, RB CHI since I start Montgomery as my RB 2.
That being said, Sony has never fully impressed me and he will share unless something strange happens. Not thrilled to pull the trigger on this add.
That being said, Sony has never fully impressed me and he will share unless something strange happens. Not thrilled to pull the trigger on this add.
shadrap
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Scooby1974
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This looks like Henderson's job. 50%? Sony didn't get ONE carry last week and the Rams were whoopin butt.
Team Smokin'
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This was the intention as Sony will get eased back into a role for sure. I can see him scoring a TD every other week and another 40-50 yards with upside. Netting 10 points in a pinch.
Scooby1974
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A roll, yes. But I don't think it's going to be 50% unless the Rams are up big and trying to run out the clock every game.
SeniorVBDStudent
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Dumping dead weight Goff in favor of a legit qb puts them position for this to happen in 4-8 games.
jtd13
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I'm not sure about 50% either, I just mean to say I'm not taking too much from week 1 usage considering how late Michel got there.
Hot Sauce Guy
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https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2021/09/17/rams-darrell-henderson-sony-michel-sean-mcvay-week-2-plan/
don’t expect much from week 2 either.
“Though it’s possible Michel’s role will grow as the season progresses, that’s not expected to be the case in Week 2 against the Colts. Sean McVay indicated Friday that Henderson will still be the starter and the Rams want to get him into the flow of the game after he had few opportunities in the first half of the season opener.
McVay said nothing to suggest Michel will be any more involved this week than he was against the Bears, so for those who own Michel in fantasy, this is another week to stash him on the bench.
“I wouldn’t say that,” McVay said of whether a bigger role is planned for Michel this week. “I think you have confidence that you can utilize him if need be, but Darrell I thought did a great job and Darrell’s going to start the game. We want to really get him into the flow of it – and that was really a large part of it too. The first half didn’t really even represent him getting into the flow of the game because we had so few touches in the run game, but you do want to be able to say, Hey, if we’re able to sustain drives, be able to get some things off, could you expect to see Sony? That’s a possibility, but Darrell’s a guy that’s done a really nice job and I was really pleased with how he got stronger as the game went on.”
Henderson looked like a workhorse back when Cam Akers went down and nothing has changed to suggest he won’t remain the RB1 in Los Angeles moving forward. It’ll take an injury or a significant decline in production to bump him from that spot.”
I’m just glad I was finally able to unload Sony in dynasty. Took me 3 years. Exhausting.
The Finist
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Sony is droppable in short bench leagues if he still rostered at all.
Team Smokin'
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I find The Shark Pool Forum extremely helpful for current information and perspectives moving forward that allow team managers like myself to make informed decisions. Once Fuller went on IR for a spell it opens up a bench spot. FBG see Sony as the next best RB for the ROS vs. taking D Williams, RB CHI handcuff to Montgomery or rolling with Winston as the second QB, or a flyer on Juwan Johnson, TE/WR NO. These are the decisions we all make based upon YOUR feedback along with FBG's projections.
I think I will pass on Sony at least for now. Although I am thin at RB at this particular league.
I think I will pass on Sony at least for now. Although I am thin at RB at this particular league.
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Hot Sauce Guy
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I’d rather have Damian Williams in CHI.
if Monty misses time he’s very capable of a 3-down role.
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Lion to myself
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If I was thin at RB I’d be all over Sony, but I’m higher on him then most. Sony will be more involved as time goes on and I’m betting he does better than Henderson with his opportunities. Even if that doesn’t happen, I’d rather have the back up in the Rams offense than the Bears. Rams are super bowl contenders with a top tier offense and I want a piece, even if it’s a lottery ticket. Remember what CJ Anderson did with the Rams several years ago? It could happen again but with Sony being the league winner. Henderson’s week 1 certainly keeps him on top of the depth chart for now but it’s a long season.
I have Winston and Juwan on a lot of teams as well so I like those players as a stash if I’m weaker at those spots or as possible replacements (injury or trade).
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Hot Sauce Guy
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Oops - need more coffee. So many D.Williams ex-chiefs. He was on my dynasty squad until I dealt him this AM, too.
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themeistersinger
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Seems like Henderson likely out today and Sony to get the start. I grabbed him off WW, and have no intention of starting him against the Buccs, but could be worth something in weeks ahead. Especially since with CMC going out I will have an extra bench spot for a bit.
leave a whisper
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I only have Michel or Z Moss as my RB2 in a deep league........ think I'm going with Michel (prob 1 of 20 people in the country starting him today - wish me luck)
Judge Smails
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He’s starting but not for me. I don’t play RBs against the Bucs. Just want him to come out of this healthy
Ilov80s
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Oh yeah, Sony was really good last year and Henderson has both always had trouble with health and with staying in McVay's good graces. Sony will probably struggle against the Bucs front 7 but he should be rostered in every league.
The Frankman
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leave a whisper
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to my benefit - I switched at the last minute & started Moss ...... but I did like Michel's showing & happy to have him (and Henderson) on my team/ as a RB2 consideration weekly moving forward
The Frankman
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themeistersinger
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The fumble didn't help, obviously, but it's also true that when you are playing from behind, Henderson is the obvious choice over Michel. So the score alone would tend to dictate a heavier emphasis on Henderson.
The balance might be different when the Rams are playing with a lead. And I'm certainly trying to hold on as long as possible in case of a Henderson injury, in which case Michel could be a league winner.
The balance might be different when the Rams are playing with a lead. And I'm certainly trying to hold on as long as possible in case of a Henderson injury, in which case Michel could be a league winner.
