I tend to agree, but he drove quite a ways to catch the Trump rally and get a front row seat. 4 hour drive to Des Moines from Chicago? Seems like an odd behavior for a casual fan.So...seems pretty meh on both. Which is to be expected from most 17 year olds.
Per the Tucker Carlson interview the extent of his political involvement was as an Andrew Yang supporter. He wasn't a Trumper. He didn't even follow politics all that closely. He saw Andrew Yang speak and thought he was the best candidate because he was smart.
It's 4hrs from Des Moines to anywhereI tend to agree, but he drove quite a ways to catch the Trump rally and get a front row seat. 4 hour drive to Des Moines from Chicago? Seems like an odd behavior for a casual fan.
For not being a Trumper, he sure didn't waste any time meeting with Trump to raise some more money for his defense fund, did he?
Kyle Rittenhouse Defense Fund @freekyleusa 21h
Thank you, President Trump. It was an honor to meet you.
Thank you for supporting the rule of law and the God-given right of self-defense.
#KyleRittenhouse
https://twitter.com/search?q=rittenhouse and trump&src=typed_query (photo of Trump and Kyle at link)
Des Moines means “beige” in French.It's 4hrs from Des Moines to anywhere
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That his handlers did a good job of prepping him with fake talking points for an interview?
I agree, but you and I for example have different financial (and other) starting points than Rittenhouse.I know nobody is making Rittenhouse do public interviews and I'm sure the money is there but knowing people will make these kinds of accusations against you would be enough to make me try to disappear. At some point, the money just isn't worth this kind of thing.
I agree, but you and I for example have different financial (and other) starting points than Rittenhouse.
Andrew YangAndrew Yang is probably like, oh crap.
Rather than try to engage on this, I’ll just say happy thanksgiving Joe. I hope you and yours have a great holiday.I know nobody is making Rittenhouse do public interviews and I'm sure the money is there but knowing people will make these kinds of accusations against you would be enough to make me try to disappear. At some point, the money just isn't worth this kind of thing.
Andrew Yang
@AndrewYang
I didn’t think this needed stating but people who hold ideologies - such as white supremacy - that are antithetical to grace and tolerance are not welcome in the Forward Party. Our movement for democracy reform is fighting to diminish harmful extremism.
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Rather than try to engage on this, I’ll just say happy thanksgiving Joe. I hope you and yours have a great holiday.
Hard to interpret other than he has to say this because if he doesn't half of twitter (which is 90% of the morons in the country) will assume he's supporting a white supremacist.Andrew Yang
@AndrewYang
I didn’t think this needed stating but people who hold ideologies - such as white supremacy - that are antithetical to grace and tolerance are not welcome in the Forward Party. Our movement for democracy reform is fighting to diminish harmful extremism.
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No kidding.And for sure, Yang didn't directly call him that but the implication is obvious.
The case had nothing to do with white supremacy. KR and the culture around him may have some. Andrew Yang is trying to distance himself from Gaetz, Gosar, MTG, and the rest of the Trump leaning GOP.Interesting from Yang. And interesting how it relates to the other thread asking about how much the Rittenhouse case had to do with white supremacy. Most folks here seem to think not but much but the national picture seems different. And for sure, Yang didn't directly call him that but the implication is obvious.
And again, maybe Rittenhouse is totally a white supremacist. I have no idea. My question was how it had to do with the case and I've found the contrast interesting.
Does it matter? Seems like a good question for one of the other KR threads discussing the actual case but I am guessing it has been addressed.Interesting from Yang. And interesting how it relates to the other thread asking about how much the Rittenhouse case had to do with white supremacy. Most folks here seem to think not but much but the national picture seems different. And for sure, Yang didn't directly call him that but the implication is obvious.
And again, maybe Rittenhouse is totally a white supremacist. I have no idea. My question was how it had to do with the case and I've found the contrast interesting.
Does it matter? Seems like a good question for one of the other KR threads discussing the actual case but I am guessing it has been addressed.
I don't think it relates to him at all. He is just trying to disassociate himself, and 'his party', from perceived extremistsOnly to the extent as it relates to Yang. And for sure, discussed in other threads.
I don't think it relates to him at all. He is just trying to disassociate himself, and 'his party', from perceived extremists
See now this little factoid made this entire thread worth it.Des Moines means “beige” in French.
So he too is implying KR is a white supremacist. Neat.Hard to interpret other than he has to say this because if he doesn't half of twitter (which is 90% of the morons in the country) will assume he's supporting a white supremacist.
Interesting and a big problem in the country imo. The difference between coverage of KR and the Waukesha killer is amazing. In KR’s instance the only evidence that he is a racist is him flashing the ok sign with a few Proud Boys at a bar. The Waukesha driver has much more online evidence of violent racist ideations, yet his motives aren’t even questioned. The Liberal media calls it a car crash.Interesting from Yang. And interesting how it relates to the other thread asking about how much the Rittenhouse case had to do with white supremacy. Most folks here seem to think not but much but the national picture seems different. And for sure, Yang didn't directly call him that but the implication is obvious.
And again, maybe Rittenhouse is totally a white supremacist. I have no idea. My question was how it had to do with the case and I've found the contrast interesting.
Yeah, I made the mistake of calling Rittenhouse a hero and I wish I could take that back. The video of him punching the girl, and even to an extent the ok picture (white power), changed my opinion of him.This is a really weird guilt-by-association story. Why am I supposed to care who or what KR likes or doesn't like? He's a dumb kid who got assaulted by three other dumb people. That doesn't make one a role model.
KR is a sort of a political token at the moment to be played. He doesn’t really seem to be shying away from it at the moment.This is a really weird guilt-by-association story. Why am I supposed to care who or what KR likes or doesn't like? He's a dumb kid who got assaulted by three other dumb people. That doesn't make one a role model.
So Ivan, you refuse to denounce white supremacy?This is a really weird guilt-by-association story. Why am I supposed to care who or what KR likes or doesn't like? He's a dumb kid who got assaulted by three other dumb people. That doesn't make one a role model.
We've had our issues in the past, ek - but great post here. We need more honesty and willingness to reexamine positions like this.Yeah, I made the mistake of calling Rittenhouse a hero and I wish I could take that back. The video of him punching the girl, and even to an extent the ok picture (white power), changed my opinion of him.
The good news is that despite all the disfunction in our press and in society, our Justice system appears to be working quite well. Both this case and the Arbery case came back with the right decisions.
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KR is a sort of a political token at the moment to be played. He doesn’t really seem to be shying away from it at the moment.
He can do whatever he wants but part of making bank by being in the public eye is being judged by what you say and how you act.Why should he? KR it a token but If you get aquitted here you write books and make bank.
I was watching TMZ and Harvey who is a liberal as they come keeps saying "This should not have anything to do with politics"
He can do whatever he wants but part of making bank by being in the public eye is being judged by what you say and how you act.
When Tucker Carlson is your first interview you are presenting yourself in a certain way for instance.
Who knows, I would think it's very unlikely that he wouldn't have his choice of interviews. Tucker was also creating a documentary that they filmed with KR during the trial process I believe so there's that.Maybe Carlson was the first or only one to ask him. Did Don Lemon or Cooper reach out to him?
Have you ever looked at the election record of Abraham Lincoln?Regarding Yang. He was an interesting candidate. He has a bit of Beto about him though in that he isn't good at the main part of being a national politician - winning elections.
If jump at the chance to meet with any president, so that means little. Certainly doesn't mean he's a fan. This meeting looks to have been for mutual convenience.For not being a Trumper, he sure didn't waste any time meeting with Trump to raise some more money for his defense fund, did he?
Right or wrong it really is time for this kid to go away. I realize the right is going to hold him up as a hero and will probably be a senator within 2 years but it really just speaks to how broken this country is.
I'm confident Beto and Yang are not Lincoln!Have you ever looked at the election record of Abraham Lincoln?
Who knows, I would think it's very unlikely that he wouldn't have his choice of interviews. Tucker was also creating a documentary that they filmed with KR during the trial process I believe so there's that.
In any case this doesn't really matter. He doesn't have to do interviews, he is choosing to. It's fine but he owns these decisions.
You think he'll "probably be a senator within two years"? I'm assuming you don't really. But when we "discuss" issues with that kind of extremism, that seems to me something that's broken. Or at least something we can control here. I know you have good things to post and discuss. Please do more of that. Thanks.
If jump at the chance to meet with any president, so that means little. Certainly doesn't mean he's a fan. This meeting looks to have been for mutual convenience.
Yeah he can do whatever he wants. By doing his first interview with Tucker, calling up Trump to get a pic, he's picking a certain path here is my point. This is his choice.I really don`t care what he does or does not do.
Nothing to really own now other than getting his views of the case out.
I actually do think he will run for something when he hits 25 and legally can. Strike while the iron is hot and I think he and his handlers will actually take advantage of that. He has a lot of momentum.
I didn't do that actual math when I said two years...i'll do better next time
Yah because if he didn’t do those things he woulda fit right in with the squadYeah he can do whatever he wants. By doing his first interview with Tucker, calling up Trump to get a pic, he's picking a certain path here is my point. This is his choice.
What is your point?Yah because if he didn’t do those things he woulda fit right in with the squad
That once he was labeled as a white supremacist by the president of the United States, who is a democrat, his political path was narrowed…regardless if his first appearance was on Tucker or not.What is your point?
That you used political path I guess is my point. He can go any number of routes with his PR coming out of this. He’s choosing Tucker the ultimate troll TV show guy and calling Trump to meet with him for photo ops. It’s fine and I do understand wanting to self-promote coming out of this which is what seems to be happening here.That once he was labeled as a white supremacist by the president of the United States, who is a democrat, his political path was narrowed…regardless if his first appearance was in Tucker or not.