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Posted 06 January 2012 - 05:02 AM

WIS XV: Alphabet Soup with a side of Salary

Official rules
You will be drafting 25 players. Each player's LAST NAME will begin with a different letter. For example, once you draft Tim Greg Golson, you cannot draft Doug Glanville.

For the purposes of the draft, the letters Q+I will be considered the same. You must draft one player whose last name begins with EITHER Q or I. The letter X will not be represented. You must draft one player for each of the remaining 23 letters.

The draft will consist of 24 "normal" rounds and one "wild card" round. The wild card round will be round 24. In this round, and this round only, owners can select a player whose last name begins with a letter they have already used. (From the example above, you could select Glanville in round 24).

Players whose last names begin with Z,I,Q MAY NOT be drafted in the wild card round.

There is also a SALARY minimum and maximum for drafted players.

Every season used must be between $1,000,000 and $10,000,000 (inclusive) for pitchers and between $1,000,000 and $8,000,000 (inclusive) for position players.

Eligible players for this draft will come from the National League or the American League during the years 1901-2011. No federal league players allowed, and no 19th century players allowed. Full and combined seasons are allowed. NO PARTIAL SEASONS are allowed.

Draft order will be set by rolling dice (see details below)

There will be a ballpark draft that will be the reverse order of the player draft order. Owners must have a park selected in order to make their 4th round pick (thus the draft must be completed by the end of round 3). Ballparks must have been in use from 1901-2011 and must be unique in architecture. This means that once Enron Field is off the board, Minute Maid is off the board too.

No trading of draft picks permitted until the 5th round has begun. Player-for-player trades are permitted at any time however they must adhere to the letter restrictions.

The letter restriction WILL remain in place during the season.

Draft Clock and notes

The draft clock will begin in round 2.

The clock will be a 1-hour clock that runs from 9am-7pm in the poster's time zone.

Please do NOT skip ahead if someone ahead of you has already used a letter.

If a draftee picks a player with a letter they have already used, they will be auto-skipped (as if it was a valid pick) and can make that pick up any time. The incorrect player IS eligible to be drafted.

League Number: MLB99353

Edited by jfranco77, 08 February 2012 - 05:21 AM.




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Posted 06 January 2012 - 05:03 AM

Owner list (still needs to be formatted for PMs)

Pending: Oso Diablo (out, but available as PH if needed)

Draft Order (dice roll)

1. Arsenal of Doom - 8
2. the moops-45
3. Pumpnick - 62
4. Brady Marino - 88
5. Bogart / Dirkswish - 122
6. Notorious T.R.E. - 178
7. Chemical X - 198
8. Doug B - 213
9. Doctor Detroit - 218
10. Tremendous Upside - 740 - traded with Larry
11. Spartans Rule - 458
12. Super Nintendo Chalmers - 467
13. Shake Zula - 490
14. Hoos First - 540
15. Greco - 551
16. jfranco77 - 589
17. SoCalBroncoFan - 633
18. Sammy3469 - 640
19. Kubes - 642
20. Koya - 655
21. Kraft - 724
22. larry_Boy_44 - 383 - traded with T-Up
23. Eephus - 753
24. RNR - 985


WIS League History

WIS I: The Beginning
Theme: All-Time Draft (Sim was conducted as afterthought)
Champion: Pumpnick

WIS II: Sim-Fishing
Theme: All-Time Draft II (Sim-fishing encouraged)
Champion: Spartans Rule

WIS III: Cocaine & Greenies
Theme: 1969-1992
Champion: Dirty Halos

WIS IV: The Golden Era
Theme: 1946-1968
Champion: RnR

WIS V: Clone Wars
Theme: All-Time Draft with multiple versions of the same player allowed
Champion: Koya

WIS VI: The Salary Cap League
Theme: A draft and salary-cap fused together. Each team drafted with a $100mil WIS salary cap
Champion: Kraft
Special Note: Dr. Detroit's team that finished runner-up to Kraft won the Champion of Champions League on WIS.

WIS VII: The Deadball Era
Theme: 1894-1919
Champion: Kraft

WIS VIII: The Golden Steroid Era
Theme: Split era league that included 1920-1941 and 1986-2004
Champion: Doug B

WIS IX: The Disco Era
Theme: 70's league (1976-79)
Champion: Koya

WIS X: The Dice Roll Debacle
Theme: All-Time Draft that required a roll of a six-sided die to determine which season you got to use for each player drafted
Champion: Eephus

WIS XI: The Uecker Era
Theme: 1962-1967
Champion: jfranco77

WIS XII: Roll for Years
Theme: Each team was required to roll dice to determine what year they would be able to select a player from in each round
Champion: Mr. Phoenix

WIS XIII: The Hall of Very Good
Theme: No Hall of Fame players allowed, all-time league
Champion: Hoos First

WIS XIV: The Rookie/First Year League
Theme: Player pool limited to their first WIS eligible season
Champion: Doug B

WIS MMXI: Back to the Future
Theme: Pre-season draft for 2011 sim
Champion: Arsenal of Doom

Edited by jfranco77, 16 January 2012 - 10:55 AM.


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Posted 06 January 2012 - 05:04 AM

Ballpark Draft: Link to WIS ballpark effects. Only 1901-2011 ballparks are eligible. Sim performance is Sim ballpark adjusted. Raw real-life statistics are not.

RNR =================== Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome
Eephus ================ RFK Stadium
Tremendous Upside ====== Yankee Stadium
Kraft ================== Fenway Pahk
Koya =================== Polo Grounds
Kubes ================== Kauffman Stadium
sammy3469 ============== Tropicana Field
SoCalBroncoFan ========= Palace of the Fans
jfranco77 ============= Bennett Park
Greco ================== Memorial Coliseum
Hoos First ============= Yankee Stadium III
shake zula ============= Minute Maid Park
Super Nintendo Chalmers= Atlanta Fulton County Stadium
Spartans Rule ========== Tiger Stadium
larry_boy_44 ========== County Stadium (Milwaukee)
Doctor Detroit ========= PNC Park
Doug B ================ Chase Field
Chemical X ============= Sick's Stadium
TRE ================== Ebbetts Field
Dirkswish ============== Arlington Stadium
Brady Marino ========== Wrigley Field (Chicago)
Pumpnick ============== Busch Stadium (II)
the moops ============== Oriole Park at Camden Yards
Arsenal ================ AT&T Park

SimLive League?

1- RnR
2- Doctor Detroit
3- Brady marino
4- Greco
5- SCBF
6- moops
7- Koya
8- Chem X
9- Pampernickle
10- Kubes
11- Shake
12- Sparty

Edited by jfranco77, 31 January 2012 - 01:26 PM.


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Posted 06 January 2012 - 05:05 AM

Google Docs Spreadsheet:

https://docs.google....dGhneEdkQXhQNEE

List of drafted players by letter

A - Pete Alexander, Hank Aaron, Dick Allen, Luke Appling, Kevin Appier, Roberto Alomar, Richie Ashburn, Rich Aurilia, Babe Adams, Bobby Abreu, Earl Averill, Fred Anderson, Hank Aguirre, Red Ames, Mike Adams, Ted Abernathy, dale Alexander, Larry Andersen, Jose Arredondo, Jim Abbott, Jack Aker, Rick Aguilera, Alex Avila, Doyle Alexander
B - Kevin Brown, Wade Boggs, Ernie Banks, Barry Bonds, Mordecai Brown, Bill Bernhard, Garland Braxton, Craig Biggio, Harry Brecheen, Chief Bender, Frank Baker, Johnny Bench, Yogi Berra, Lance Berkman, Ellis Burks, Carlos Beltran, Jonathan Broxton, Tiny Bonham, Jim Bottomley, Albert Belle, Ryan Braun, Rafael Betancourt, Joaquin Benoit, Jeff Bagwell, Jim Brewer, Gates Brown, Armando Benitez, Bob Bailey, Rod Beck
C - Roger Clemens, Ty Cobb, Ken Caminiti, Eddie Collins, Roy Campanella, Spud Chandler, Mickey Cochrane, Mike Cuellar, Chris Carpenter, David Cone, Miguel Cabrera, Rod Carew, Rico Carty, Dean Chance, Ray Caldwell, Rheal Cormier, Cisco Carlos, Steve Carlton, Dolph Camilli, Gary Carter, Carl Crawford, Gavvy Cravath, Rocky Colavito, Roy Cullenbine, Roberto Clemente, Sam Crawford
D - Eric Davis, Bill Dickey, Ed Delahanty, Joe Dimaggio, Larry Doby, Lenny Dykstra, Bobby Doerr, Spud Davis, JD Drew, Octavio Dotel, Kal Daniels, Larry Dierker, Joey Devine, Darren daulton, Carlos Delgado, George Dumont, Andre Dawson, Bill Delancey, Omar Daal, Dizzy Dean, Rob Dibble, Alvin Dark, Jose DeLeon
E - Darrell Evans, Dick Ellsworth, Mark Eichhorn, Dennis Eckersley, Jim Edmonds, Cal Eldred, Johnny Evers, Dwight Evans, Morgan Ensberg, Woody English, Johnny Edwards, Carl Everett, Hoot Evers, Damion Easley, Mike Easler, Jacoby Ellsbury, Jim Essian, Jim Eisenrich, Ted Easterly, Mark Ellis, Bob Elliott, Alex Escobar, Mike Epstein, Bob Ewing
F - Jimmie Foxx, Carlton Fisk, Rollie Fingers, Bill Freehan, Prince Fielder, Keith Foulke, Turk Farrell, Todd Frohwirth, Neftali Feliz, Tito Francona, Steve Finley, Whitey Ford, Frankie Frisch, Aaron Fultz, Jack Fournier, Rafael Furcal, John Franco, Ferris Fain, Roger Freed, Ray Fosse, Duke Farrell, Jeremy Fikac, Art Fromme, Jeff Fassero
G - Nomar Garciaparra, Zack Greinke, Lou Gehrig, Eric Gagne, Hank Greenberg, Lefty Gomez, Troy Glaus, Dwight Gooden, Pedro Guerrero, Vean Gregg, Charlie Gehringer, Bobby Grich, Goose Goslin, Brian Giles, Rich Gossage, Tom Gordon, Jim Gentile, Vlad Guerrero, Buddy Groom, Larry Gura, Gene Garber, Oscar Gamble, Rich Garces
H - Rogers Hornsby, Rickey Henderson, Joe Horlen, Tom L Hughes, Gabby Hartnett, Ted Higuera, Harry Heilmann, Orel Hershiser, Felix Hernandez, Chris Hoiles, Roy Halladay, Warren Hacker, Catfish Hunter, Trevor Hoffman, Dick Hughes, Elston Howard, Josh Hamilton, Todd Helton, Bryan Harvey, Willie Hernandez, Richard Hidalgo, Tom Henke, Todd Haney, Bubbles Hargrave, Bob Hazel, Jim Hearn, Ryan Howard
J - Randy Johnson, Chipper Jones, Walter Johnson, Derek Jeter, Joe Jackson, Bob Johnson, Addie Joss, Howard Johnson, Reggie Jackson, Fergie Jenkins, Bobby Jenks, Doug Jones, Mike Jackson, Bob James, Eddie Joost, Grant Jackson, Pat Jarvis, Josh Johnson, Gregg Jefferies, Charles Johnson, Travis Jackson, David Justice, Tommy John, Andruw Jones
K - Sandy Koufax, Jeff Kent, Clayton Kershaw, Ralph Kiner, Ted Kluszewski, Chuck Klein, Al Kaline, Harry Krause, George Kell, Matt Kemp, Hong-Chi Kuo, Jimmy Key, Charlie Keller, Harmon Killebrew, Len Koenecke, Jason Kendall, Jerry Koosman, Craig Kimbrel, Paul Kilgus, Jim Kaat, Bob Knepper, Byung-Hyun Kim, Chuck Knoblauch, Joe Kuhel
L - Dutch Leonard, Javy Lopez, Derek Lowe, Nap Lajoie, Barry Larkin, Tim Lincecum, Tony Lazzeri, Brad Lidge, Fred Lindstrom, Fred Lynn, Francisco Liriano, Sparky Lyle, Cliff Lee, Paul Lo Duca, Barry Latman, ernie Lombardi, John Lowenstein, Ray Lankford, Derek Lilliquist, Kenny Lofton, Graeme Lloyd, Cory Luebke, Mike Lieberthal, Paul Lindblad
M - Joe Morgan, Pedro Martinez, Johnny Mize, Dave McNally, Mark McGwire, Mickey Mantle, Juan Marichal, Kevin Millwood, Joe Mauer, Eddie Mathews, Stan Musial, Kevin Mitchell, Mike Mussina, Bobby Murcer, Buddy Myer, Edgar Martinez, Tug McGraw, Willie Mays, Sherry Magee, George McQuillan, Christy Mathewson, Cla Meredith, Nick Maddox, John McGraw, Willie McCovey, Rob Murphy, Rabbit Maranville
N - Mike Napoli, Mike Norris, Roger Nelson, Graig Nettles, Hideo Nomo, Joe Nathan, Jake Northrop, Robb Nen, Phil Niekro, Tom Niedenfuer, Ray Narleski, Gene Nelson, Phil Nevin, Jeff Nelson, Art Nehf, Johnny Niggeling, Pat Neshek, Fred Nicholson, Bob Nieman, Greg Norton, Gary Nolan, Tim Naehring, Ron Northey, Joe Nuxhall
O - Mel Ott, John Olerud, Orval Overall, Bob O'Farrell, David Ortiz, Bob Ojeda, Magglio Ordonez, Steve Ontiveros, Darren O'Day, Hideki Okajima, Frank Owen, Tony Oliva, Roy Oswalt, Eric o'Flaherty, Jesse Orosco, Akinori Otsuka, Jose Oquendo, Al Oliver, Ben Oglivie, Jose Oliva, Mike O'Neill, Buck O'Brien
P - Mike Piazza, Albert Pujols, Jack Pfiester, Barney Pelty, Pascual Perez, Jake Peavy, Gary Peters, Tony Perez, Tony Phillips, Jonathan Papelbon, JJ Putz, Brandon Phillips, Rafael Palmeiro, Darrell Porter. Joel Pineiro, Troy Percival, Johnny Pesky, Odalis Perez, Jorge Posada, Deacon Phillippe, Cliff Politte, Geronimo Pena, Ray Prim, Andy Pafko
R - Alex Rodriguez, Babe Ruth, Jackie Robinson, Scott Rolen, Reb Russell, Frank Robinson, Hanley Ramirez, Manny Ramirez, Cal Ripken, Mariano Rivera, Jose Reyes, Ivan Rodriguez, Tim Raines, Nolan Ryan, Jimmy Rollins, Ed Reulbach, BJ Ryan, JR Richard, Arthur Rhodes, Francisco Rodriguez, Jerry Reuss, Jim Rice, Harry Rice, Schoolboy Rowe, Pete Runnels, Sergio Romo, Dennys Reyes
S - Johan Santana, Tris Speaker, Mike Schmidt, Bret Saberhagen, John Smoltz, Jason Schmidt, Don Sutton, Tom Seaver, Ron Santo, Curt Schilling, Warren Spahn, Ferdie Schupp, Gary Sheffield, Willie Stargell, Eddie Stanky, Bruce Sutter, Takashi Saito, Al Simmons, Ben Sheets, Monty Stratton, Ryne Sandberg, Joe Sewell, Red Schoendienst, Terry Shumpert, Shane Spencer, Rafael Soriano
T - Luis Tiant, Troy Tulowitzki, John Tudor, Jim Thome, Frank Thomas, Joe Torre, Frank Tanana, Cecil Travis, Bill Terry, Randy Tomlin, Gene Tenace, Shingo Takatsu, Roy Thomas, Matt Thornton, Ken Tatum, Miguel Tejada, Joe Thatcher, Jeff Tesreau, Mickey Tettleton, Dickie Thon, Jim Turner, Hal Trosky
U - Chase Utley, Koji Uehara, Ugueth Urbina, Jim Umbricht, Juan Uribe, Justin Upton, BJ Upton, Dan Uggla, Bob Unglaub, Cecil Upshaw, George Uhle, Billy Urbanski, Willie Upshaw, John Urrea, Del Unser, Jack Urban, Bob Uecker, Ted Uhlaender, Tom Underwood, Tom Umphlett, Jerry Ujdur, Al Unser, Tom Urbani
V - Fernando Valenzuela, Justin Verlander, Arky Vaughan, Dazzy Vance, Joey Votto, John Valentin, Javier Vazquez, Elmer Valo, Andy Van Slyke, Jose Vidro, Sergio Valdez, Luis Vizcaino, Fernando Vina, Claudio Vargas, John Vander Wal, Mo Vaughn, Jose Valentin, Johnny Venters, Shane Victorino, Ismael Valdez, Greg Vaughn, Jose Valverde, Frank Viola, Quilvio Veras
W - Ted Williams, Honus Wagner, Larry Walker, Ed Walsh, Doc White, Whit Wyatt, Hack Wilson, Billy Wagner, Billy Williams, Hoyt Wilhelm, Jered Weaver, Bernie Williams, John Wetteland, Paul Waner, Matt Williams, Gabe White, David Wright, Dan Wheeler, Matt Wieters, Cory Wade, Jimmy Wynn, Zack Wheat, Bill Walker, Cy Williams, Don Wilson
Y - Robin Yount, Carl Yastrzemski, Rudy York, Eddie Yost, Michael "Mike" Young (the shortstop), Kevin Youkilis, Chris R. Young (the pitcher), Ross Youngs, Joel Youngblood, Floyd Youmans, Babe Young, Emil Yde, Chris B. Young, Dmitri Young, Cy Young, Joe Yeager, Esteban Yan, Mike Young (the Oriole), Steve Yeager, Delmon Young, Gerald Young, Ralph Young
Z - Heinie Zimmerman, Barry Zito, Jeff Zimmerman, Ben Zobrist, Joel Zumaya, Ryan Zimmerman, Gregg Zaun, Carlos Zambrano, Richie Zisk, Gus Zernial, Don Zimmer, Todd Zeile, Victor Zambrano, Al Zarilla, Victor Zambrano, Frankie Zak, Norm Zauchin, Tom Zachary, Zip Zabel, Chief Zimmer, Jerry Zimmerman, Bob Zupcic, Guy Zinn, Jimmy Zinn, Jordan Zimmerman
QI - Jack Quinn, Dan Quisenberry, Monte Irvin, Jason Isringhausen, Raul Ibanez, Paul Quantrill, Robb Quinlan, Jeff Innis, Mel Queen, Maicer Izturis, Chris Ianetta, Chad Qualls, Brandon Inge, Omar Infante, Carlos Quentin, Mike Ivie, Kaz Ishii, Cesar Izturis, Pete Incaviglia, Frank Isbell, Jose Uribe, Jamie Quirk, Humberto Quintero, Dane Iorg, Hideki Irabu


List of drafted players
Round	Pick	Owner	Player	Positon1	1	 Arsenal 	Mike Piazza	Catcher1	2	 the moops 	Chase Utley	Second Base1	3	 Pumpnick 	Ted Williams	Outfield1	4	 Brady Marino 	Jimmie Foxx	First Base1	5	 Dirkswish 	Fernando Valenzuela	Pitcher1	6	TRE         	Justin Verlander	Pitcher1	7	 Chemical X 	Nomar Garciaparra	Shortstop1	8	 Doug B 	Robin Yount	Shortstop1	9	 Doctor Detroit 	Carl Yastrzemski	First Base1	10	 Tremendous Upside 	Honus Wagner	Shortstop1	11	 Spartans Rule 	Dutch Leonard	Pitcher1	12	 Super Nintendo Chalmers 	Luis Tiant	Pitcher1	13	 shake zula 	Alex Rodriguez	Shortstop1	14	 Hoos First 	Babe Ruth	Outfield1	15	 Greco                 	Albert Pujols	First Base1	16	 jfranco77 	Pete Alexander	Pitcher1	17	 SoCalBroncoFan 	Sandy Koufax	Pitcher1	18	 sammy3469 	Randy Johnson	Pitcher1	19	 Kubes                	Arky Vaughan	Shortstop1	20	 Koya                	Rogers Hornsby	Second Base1	21	 Kraft       	Joe Morgan	Second Base1	22	 larry_boy_44 	Pedro Martinez	Pitcher1	23	 Eephus 	Greg Maddux	Pitcher1	24	 RNR 	Roger Clemens	Pitcher2	25	 RNR 	Kevin Brown	Pitcher2	26	 Eephus 	Jackie Robinson	Second Base2	27	 larry_boy_44 	Johan Santana	Pitcher2	28	 Kraft       	Tris Speaker	Outfield2	29	 Koya                	Larry Walker	Outfield2	30	 Kubes                	Ty Cobb	Outfield2	31	 sammy3469 	Troy Tulowitzki	Shortstop2	32	 SoCalBroncoFan 	John Tudor	Pitcher2	33	 jfranco77 	Javy Lopez	Catcher2	34	 Greco                 	Johnny Mize	First Base2	35	 Hoos First 	Wade Boggs	Third Base2	36	 shake zula 	Ken Caminiti	Third Base2	37	 Super Nintendo Chalmers 	Hank Aaron	Outfield2	38	 Spartans Rule 	Rickey Henderson	Outfield2	39	 Tremendous Upside 	Chipper Jones	Third Base2	40	 Doctor Detroit 	Mike Schmidt	Third Base2	41	 Doug B 	Bret Saberhagen	Pitcher2	42	 Chemical X 	Scott Rolen	Third Base2	43	TRE         	Eddie Collins	Second Base2	44	 Dirkswish 	Jack Quinn	Pitcher2	45	 Brady Marino 	Roy Campanella	Catcher2	46	 Pumpnick 	Derek Lowe	Pitcher2	47	 the moops 	Ernie Banks	Shortstop2	48	 Arsenal 	Dave McNally	Pitcher3	49	 Arsenal 	Darrell Evans	Third Base3	50	 the moops 	Zack Greinke	Pitcher3	51	 Pumpnick 	Joe Horlen	Pitcher3	52	 Brady Marino 	Jeff Kent	Second Base3	53	 Dirkswish 	Dick Ellsworth	Pitcher3	54	TRE         	Jack Pfiester	Pitcher3	55	 Chemical X 	Barry Bonds	Outfield3	56	 Doug B 	Reb Russell	Pitcher3	57	 Doctor Detroit 	Clayton Kershaw	Pitcher3	58	 Tremendous Upside 	Mike Napoli	Catcher3	59	 Spartans Rule 	Mark McGwire	First Base3	60	 Super Nintendo Chalmers 	Frank Robinson	Outfield3	61	 shake zula 	John Smoltz	Pitcher3	62	 Hoos First 	Mel Ott	Outfield3	63	 Greco                 	Mordecai Brown	Pitcher3	64	 jfranco77 	Walter Johnson	Pitcher3	65	 SoCalBroncoFan 	Barney Pelty	Pitcher3	66	 sammy3469 	Ed Walsh	Pitcher3	67	 Kubes                	Nap Lajoie	Second Base3	68	 Koya                	Bill Bernhard	Pitcher3	69	 Kraft       	Barry Larkin	Shortstop3	70	 larry_boy_44 	John Olerud	First Base3	71	 Eephus 	Heinie Zimmerman	Third Base3	72	 RNR 	Dan Quisenberry	Pitcher4	73	 RNR 	Mark Eichhorn	Pitcher4	74	 Eephus 	Mike Norris	Pitcher4	75	 larry_boy_44 	Derek Jeter	Shortstop4	76	 Kraft       	Dick Allen	Third Base4	77	 Koya                	Roger Nelson	Pitcher4	78	 Kubes                	Jason Schmidt	Pitcher4	79	 sammy3469 	Dennis Eckersley	Pitcher4	80	 SoCalBroncoFan 	Tom L. Hughes	Pitcher4	81	 jfranco77 	Jim Thome	Third Base4	82	 Greco                 	Doc White	Pitcher4	83	 Hoos First 	Gabby Hartnett	Catcher4	84	 shake zula 	Tim Lincecum	Pitcher4	85	 Super Nintendo Chalmers 	Ralph Kiner	Outfield4	86	 Spartans Rule 	Spud Chandler	Pitcher4	87	 Tremendous Upside 	Eric Davis	Outfield4	88	 Doctor Detroit 	Pascual Perez	Pitcher4	89	 Doug B 	Ted Kluszewski	First Base4	90	 Chemical X 	Tony Lazzeri	Second Base4	91	TRE         	Mickey Mantle	Outfield4	92	 Dirkswish 	Craig Biggio	Second Base4	93	 Brady Marino 	Ted Higuera	Pitcher4	94	 Pumpnick 	Joe Jackson	Outfield4	95	 the moops 	Juan Marichal	Pitcher4	96	 Arsenal 	Hanley Ramirez	Shortstop5	97	 Arsenal 	Don Sutton	Pitcher5	98	 the moops 	Manny Ramirez	Outfield5	99	 Pumpnick 	Garland Braxton	Pitcher5	100	 Brady Marino 	Tom Seaver	Pitcher5	101	 Dirkswish 	Graig Nettles	Third Base5	102	TRE         	Lou Gehrig	First Base5	103	 Chemical X 	Bill Dickey	Catcher5	104	 Doug B 	Monte Irvin	Outfield5	105	 Doctor Detroit 	Harry Heilmann	Outfield5	106	 Tremendous Upside 	Harry Brecheen	Pitcher5	107	 Spartans Rule 	Jim Edmonds	Outfield5	108	 Super Nintendo Chalmers 	Jake Peavy	Pitcher5	109	 shake zula 	Frank Thomas	First Base5	110	 Hoos First 	Dazzy Vance	Pitcher5	111	 Greco                 	Joe Torre	Catcher5	112	 jfranco77 	Chief Bender	Pitcher5	113	 SoCalBroncoFan 	Luke Appling	Shortstop5	114	 sammy3469 	Eric Gagne	Pitcher5	115	 Kubes                	Kevin Millwood	Pitcher5	116	 Koya                	Alan Trammell	Shortstop5	117	 Kraft       	Orel Hershiser	Pitcher5	118	 larry_boy_44 	Barry Zito	Pitcher5	119	 Eephus 	Chuck Klein	Outfield5	120	 RNR 	Ed Delahanty	Outfield6	121	 RNR 	Joe Mauer	Catcher6	122	 Eephus 	Kevin Appier	Pitcher6	123	 larry_boy_44 	Brad Lidge	Pitcher6	124	 Kraft       	Joey Votto	First Base6	125	 Koya                	Rudy York	Catcher6	126	 Kubes                	Koji Uehara	Pitcher6	127	 sammy3469 	Al Kaline	Outfield6	128	 SoCalBroncoFan 	Bob Johnson	Outfield6	129	 jfranco77 	John Valentin	Shortstop6	130	 Greco                 	Felix Hernandez	Pitcher6	131	 Hoos First 	Mike Cuellar	Pitcher6	132	 shake zula 	Tony Gwynn	Outfield6	133	 Super Nintendo Chalmers 	Carlton Fisk	Catcher6	134	 Spartans Rule 	Cal Ripken	Shortstop6	135	 Tremendous Upside 	Mariano Rivera	Pitcher6	136	 Doctor Detroit 	Mickey Cochrane	Catcher6	137	 Doug B 	Addie Joss	Pitcher6	138	 Chemical X 	Orval Overall	Pitcher6	139	TRE         	Eddie Yost	Third Base6	140	 Dirkswish 	Mike Young	Shortstop6	141	 Brady Marino 	Jose Reyes	Shortstop6	142	 Pumpnick 	Jeff Zimmerman	Pitcher6	143	 the moops 	Rollie Fingers	Pitcher6	144	 Arsenal 	Chris Carpenter	Pitcher7	145	 Arsenal 	Roberto Alomar	Second Base7	146	 the moops 	Chris Hoiles	Catcher7	147	 Pumpnick 	Ron Santo	Third Base7	148	 Brady Marino 	Hideo Nomo	Pitcher7	149	 Dirkswish 	Ivan Rodriguez	Catcher7	150	TRE         	Curt Schilling	Pitcher7	151	 Chemical X 	Frank Tanana	Pitcher7	152	 Doug B 	Hank Greenberg	First Base7	153	 Doctor Detroit 	Joe Nathan	Pitcher7	154	 Tremendous Upside 	Warren Spahn	Pitcher7	155	 Spartans Rule 	Roger Wolff	Pitcher7	156	 Super Nintendo Chalmers 	Lefty Gomez	Pitcher7	157	 shake zula 	Roy Halladay	Pitcher7	158	 Hoos First 	Howard Johnson	Shortstop7	159	 Greco                 	Troy Glaus	Third Base7	160	 jfranco77 	Jake Northrop	Pitcher7	161	 SoCalBroncoFan 	Bob O'Farrell	Catcher7	162	 sammy3469 	Gary Peters	Pitcher7	163	 Kubes                	Lefty O'Doul	Outfield7	164	 Koya                	Ferdie Schupp	Pitcher7	165	 Kraft       	Dwight Gooden	Pitcher7	166	 larry_boy_44 	Bill Freehan	Catcher7	167	 Eephus 	Jason Isringhausen	Pitcher7	168	 RNR 	Pedro Guerrero	Third Base8	169	 RNR 	Richie Ashburn	Outfield8	170	 Eephus 	Cecil Travis	Shortstop8	171	 larry_boy_44 	Bobby Doerr	Second Base8	172	 Kraft       	David Cone	Pitcher8	173	 Koya                	Harry Krause	Pitcher8	174	 Kubes                	George Kell	Third Base8	175	 sammy3469 	Frank Baker	Third Base8	176	 SoCalBroncoFan 	Fred Lindstrom	Third Base8	177	 jfranco77 	Joe Dimaggio	Outfield8	178	 Greco                 	Rich Aurilia	Shortstop8	179	 Hoos First 	Vean Gregg	Pitcher8	180	 shake zula 	Johnny Bench	Catcher8	181	 Super Nintendo Chalmers 	Whit Wyatt	Pitcher8	182	 Spartans Rule 	Gary Sheffield	Third Base8	183	 Tremendous Upside 	Warren Hacker	Pitcher8	184	 Doctor Detroit 	Charlie Gehringer	Second Base8	185	 Doug B 	Eddie Mathews	Third Base8	186	 Chemical X 	Raul Ibanez	Outfield8	187	TRE         	Yogi Berra	Catcher8	188	 Dirkswish 	Prince Fielder	First Base8	189	 Brady Marino 	Tony Perez	Third Base8	190	 Pumpnick 	Keith Foulke	Pitcher8	191	 the moops 	Robb Nen	Pitcher8	192	 Arsenal 	Catfish Hunter	Pitcher9	193	 Arsenal 	Lance Berkman	Outfield9	194	 the moops 	Matt Kemp	Outfield9	195	 Pumpnick 	Miguel Cabrera	First Base9	196	 Brady Marino 	Stan Musial	Outfield9	197	 Dirkswish 	Sammy Sosa	Outfield9	198	TRE         	Tim Raines	Outfield9	199	 Chemical X 	Hack Wilson	Outfield9	200	 Doug B 	Tony Phillips	Second Base9	201	 Doctor Detroit 	Kevin Mitchell	Outfield9	202	 Tremendous Upside 	Javier Vazquez	Pitcher9	203	 Spartans Rule 	Jonathan Papelbon	Pitcher9	204	 Super Nintendo Chalmers 	Trevor Hoffman	Pitcher9	205	 shake zula 	Mike Mussina	Pitcher9	206	 Hoos First 	Babe Adams	Pitcher9	207	 Greco                 	Rod Carew	Second Base9	208	 jfranco77 	David Ortiz	First Base9	209	 SoCalBroncoFan 	Larry Doby	Outfield9	210	 sammy3469 	Amos Otis	Outfield9	211	 Kubes                	Dick Hughes	Pitcher9	212	 Koya                	Lenny Dykstra	Outfield9	213	 Kraft       	Ellis Burks	Outfield9	214	 larry_boy_44 	Hong-Chi Kuo	Pitcher9	215	 Eephus 	Willie Stargell 	Outfield9	216	 RNR 	Bob Ojeda	Pitcher10	217	 RNR 	Ugueth Urbina	Pitcher10	218	 Eephus 	Turk Farrell	Pitcher10	219	 larry_boy_44 	Bobby Abreu	Outfield10	220	 Kraft       	Jimmy Key	Pitcher10	221	 Koya                	Reggie Jackson	Outfield10	222	 Kubes                	JJ Putz	Pitcher10	223	 sammy3469 	Elston Howard	Catcher10	224	 SoCalBroncoFan 	Eddie Stanky	Second Base10	225	 jfranco77 	Charlie Keller	Outfield10	226	 Greco                 	Nolan Ryan	Pitcher10	227	 Hoos First 	Howie Pollet	Pitcher10	228	 shake zula 	Brandon Phillips	Second Base10	229	 Super Nintendo Chalmers 	Carlos Beltran	Outfield10	230	 Spartans Rule 	Bobby Grich	Second Base10	231	 Tremendous Upside 	Goose Goslin	Outfield10	232	 Doctor Detroit 	Jimmy Rollins	Shortstop10	233	 Doug B 	Billy Wagner	Pitcher10	234	 Chemical X 	Bruce Sutter	Pitcher10	235	TRE         	Paul Quantrill 	Pitcher10	236	 Dirkswish 	Josh Hamilton	Outfield10	237	 Brady Marino 	Earl Averill	Outfield10	238	 Pumpnick 	Harmon Killebrew	Third Base10	239	 the moops 	Kevin Youkilis	Third Base10	240	 Arsenal 	Fred Lynn	Outfield11	241	 Arsenal 	Brian Giles	Outfield11	242	 the moops 	Ben Zobrist	Second Base11	243	 Pumpnick 	Bobby Murcer	Outfield11	244	 Brady Marino 	Jonathan Broxton	Pitcher11	245	 Dirkswish 	Magglio Ordonez	Outfield11	246	TRE         	Fred Anderson	Pitcher11	247	 Chemical X 	Rafael Palmeiro	First Base11	248	 Doug B 	Elmer Valo	Outfield11	249	 Doctor Detroit 	Fergie Jenkins	Pitcher11	250	 Tremendous Upside 	Buddy Myer	Second Base11	251	 Spartans Rule 	Tiny Bonham	Pitcher11	252	 Super Nintendo Chalmers 	Edgar Martinez	Third Base11	253	 shake zula 	Phil Niekro	Pitcher11	254	 Hoos First 	Billy Williams	Outfield11	255	 Greco                 	Takashi Saito	Pitcher11	256	 jfranco77 	Ed Reulbach	Pitcher11	257	 SoCalBroncoFan 	Tom Niedenfuer	Pitcher11	258	 sammy3469 	Al Simmons	Outfielder11	259	 Kubes                	Spud Davis	Catcher11	260	 Koya                	Hank Aguirre	Pitcher11	261	 Kraft       	BJ Ryan	Pitcher11	262	 larry_boy_44 	JR Richard	Pitcher11	263	 Eephus 	Darrell Porter	Catcher11	264	 RNR 	Todd Helton	First Base12	265	 RNR 	Hoyt Wilhelm	Pitcher12	266	 Eephus 	Bobby Jenks	Pitcher12	267	 larry_boy_44 	Cal Eldred	Pitcher12	268	 Kraft       	Todd Frohwirth	Pitcher12	269	 Koya                	Neftali Feliz	Pitcher12	270	 Kubes                	Jered Weaver	Pitcher12	271	 sammy3469 	Red Ames	Pitcher12	272	 SoCalBroncoFan 	Rich Gossage	Pitcher12	273	 jfranco77 	Joel Pineiro	Pitcher12	274	 Greco                 	JD Drew	Outfield12	275	 Hoos First 	Francisco Liriano	Pitcher12	276	 shake zula 	Andy Van Slyke	Outfield12	277	 Super Nintendo Chalmers 	Octavio Dotel	Pitcher12	278	 Spartans Rule 	Steve Ontiveros	Pitcher12	279	 Tremendous Upside 	Rico Carty	Outfield12	280	 Doctor Detroit 	Jim Bottomley	First Base12	281	 Doug B 	Albert Belle	Outfield12	282	 Chemical X 	Dean Chance	Pitcher12	283	TRE         	Bryan Harvey	Pitcher12	284	 Dirkswish 	Joel Zumaya	Pitcher12	285	 Brady Marino 	Bernie Williams	Outfield12	286	 Pumpnick 	Mike Adams	Pitcher12	287	 the moops 	Kal Daniels	Outfield12	288	 Arsenal 	Doug Jones	Pitcher13	289	 Arsenal 	John Wetteland	Pitcher13	290	 the moops 	Ray Caldwell	Pitcher13	291	 Pumpnick 	Johnny Evers	Second Base13	292	 Brady Marino 	Larry Dierker	Pitcher13	293	 Dirkswish 	Fred Toney	Pitcher13	294	TRE         	Roy Oswalt	Pitcher13	295	 Chemical X 	Pat Jarvis	Pitcher13	296	 Doug B 	Willie Hernandez	Pitcher13	297	 Doctor Detroit 	Sparky Lyle	Pitcher13	298	 Tremendous Upside 	Darren O'day	Pitcher13	299	 Spartans Rule 	Tito Francona	Outfield13	300	 Super Nintendo Chalmers 	Rheal Cormier	Pitcher13	301	 shake zula 	Steve Finley	Outfield13	302	 Hoos First 	Joey Devine	Pitcher13	303	 Greco                 	Dwight Evans	Pitcher13	304	 jfranco77 	Chris R. Young	Pitcher13	305	 SoCalBroncoFan 	Arthur Rhodes	Pitcher13	306	 sammy3469 	Francisco Rodriguez	Pitcher13	307	 Kubes                	Ross Youngs	Outfield13	308	 Koya                	Jim Umbricht	Pitcher13	309	 Kraft       	Troy Percival	Pitcher13	310	 larry_boy_44 	Eric Young	Second Base13	311	 Eephus 	Tom Gordon	Pitcher13	312	 RNR 	Johnny Pesky	Shortstop14	313	 RNR 	Ryan Zimmerman	Third Base14	314	 Eephus 	Paul Waner	Outfield14	315	 larry_boy_44 	Ryan Braun	Outfield14	316	 Kraft       	Darren Daulton	Catcher14	317	 Koya                	Jim Gentile	First Base14	318	 Kubes                	Bill Terry	First Base14	319	 sammy3469 	Ray Narleski	Pitcher14	320	 SoCalBroncoFan 	Rafael Betancourt	Pitcher14	321	 jfranco77 	Cisco Carlos	Pitcher14	322	 Greco                 	Len Koenecke	Outfield14	323	 Hoos First 	Gene Nelson	Pitcher14	324	 shake zula 	Eric O'Flaherty	Pitcher14	325	 Super Nintendo Chalmers 	Mike Jackson	Pitcher14	326	 Spartans Rule 	Jason Kendall	Catcher14	327	 Tremendous Upside 	Odalis Perez	Pitcher14	328	 Doctor Detroit 	Whitey Ford	Pitcher14	329	 Doug B 	Ted Abernathy	Pitcher14	330	 Chemical X 	Richard Hidalgo	Outfield14	331	TRE         	Jerry Koosman	Pitcher14	332	 Dirkswish 	Vlad Guerrero	Outfield14	333	 Brady Marino 	Buddy Groom 	Pitcher14	334	 Pumpnick 	Hideki Okajima	Pitcher14	335	 the moops 	Matt Williams	Third Base14	336	 Arsenal 	Randy Tomlin	Pitcher15	337	 Arsenal 	Carlos Delgado	First Base15	338	 the moops 	Ben Sheets	Pitcher15	339	 Pumpnick 	Gene Tenace	Catcher15	340	 Brady Marino 	Bob James	Pitcher15	341	 Dirkswish 	Bill Dailey	Pitcher15	342	TRE         	George Dumont	Pitcher15	343	 Chemical X 	Tug McGraw	Pitcher15	344	 Doug B 	Steve Carlton	Pitcher15	345	 Doctor Detroit 	Andre Dawson	Outfield15	346	 Tremendous Upside 	Frankie Frisch	Second Base15	347	 Spartans Rule 	Bill Delancey	Catcher15	348	 Super Nintendo Chalmers 	Jose Vidro	Second Base15	349	 shake zula 	Craig Kimbrel	Pitcher15	350	 Hoos First 	Monty Stratton	Pitcher15	351	 Greco                 	Robb Quinlan	Third Base15	352	 jfranco77 	Ryne Sandberg	Second Base15	353	 SoCalBroncoFan 	Sergio Valdez	Pitcher15	354	 sammy3469 	Dolph Camilli	First Base15	355	 Kubes                	Aaron Fultz	Pitcher15	356	 Koya                	Morgan Ensberg	Third Base15	357	 Kraft       	Joel Youngblood	Outfield15	358	 larry_boy_44 	Luis Vizcaino	Pitcher15	359	 Eephus 	Frank Owen	Pitcher15	360	 RNR 	Jack Fournier	First Base16	361	 RNR 	Eddie Joost	Shortstop16	362	 Eephus 	Woody English	Shortstop16	363	 larry_boy_44 	Shingo Takatsu	Pitcher16	364	 Kraft       	Tony Oliva	Outfield16	365	 Koya                	Gary Carter	Catcher16	366	 Kubes                	Larry Gura	Pitcher16	367	 sammy3469 	Willie Mays	Outfield16	368	 SoCalBroncoFan 	Sherry Magee	Outfield16	369	 jfranco77 	Rafael Furcal	Shortstop16	370	 Greco                 	Grant Jackson	Pitcher16	371	 Hoos First 	Roy Thomas	Outfied16	372	 shake zula 	Omar Daal 	Pitcher16	373	 Super Nintendo Chalmers 	Johnny Edwards	Catcher16	374	 Spartans Rule 	Matt Thornton	Pitcher16	375	 Tremendous Upside 	Dale Alexander	First Base16	376	 Doctor Detroit 	Gabe White	Pitcher16	377	 Doug B 	Ken Tatum	Pitcher16	378	 Chemical X 	Larry Andersen	Pitcher16	379	TRE         	Miguel Tejada	Shortstop16	380	 Dirkswish 	Juan Uribe	Shortstop16	381	 Brady Marino 	Justin Upton	Outfield16	382	 Pumpnick 	Jorge Posada	Catcher16	383	 the moops 	Jesse Orosco	Pitcher16	384	 Arsenal 	BJ Upton	Outfield17	385	 Arsenal 	Paul Kilgus	Pitcher17	386	 the moops 	Cliff Lee	Pitcher17	387	 Pumpnick 	Jerry Reuss	Pitcher17	388	 Brady Marino 	Akinori Otsuka	Pitcher17	389	 Dirkswish 	Deacon Phillippe	Pitcher17	390	TRE         	Phil Nevin	Third Base17	391	 Chemical X 	John Franco	Pitcher17	392	 Doug B 	Jeff Nelson	Pitcher17	393	 Doctor Detroit 	Carlos Zambrano	Pitcher17	394	 Tremendous Upside 	Jim Kaat	Pitcher17	395	 Spartans Rule 	Jose Valentin	Shortstop17	396	 Super Nintendo Chalmers 	Art Nehf	Pitcher17	397	 shake zula 	Jim Abbott	Pitcher17	398	 Hoos First 	Hoot Evers	Outfield17	399	 Greco                 	Paul Lo duca	Catcher17	400	 jfranco77 	Carl Everett	Outfield17	401	 SoCalBroncoFan 	Ferris Fain	Outfield17	402	 sammy3469 	Fernando Vina	Second Base17	403	 Kubes                	Joaquin Benoit	Pitcher17	404	 Koya                	Claudio Vargas	Pitcher17	405	 Kraft       	Jeff Innis	Pitcher17	406	 larry_boy_44 	David Wright	Third Base17	407	 Eephus 	John Vander Wal	Outfield17	408	 RNR 	Mo Vaughn	First Base18	409	 RNR 	Jim Rice	Outfield18	410	 Eephus 	Barry Latman	Pitcher18	411	 larry_boy_44 	Johnny Niggeling	Pitcher18	412	 Kraft       	Gregg Zaun	Catcher18	413	 Koya                	Mel Queen	Pitcher18	414	 Kubes                	Maicer Izturis	Third Base18	415	 sammy3469 	Ernie Lombardi	Catcher18	416	 SoCalBroncoFan 	Chris Ianetta	Catcher18	417	 jfranco77 	Chad Qualls	Pitcher18	418	 Greco                 	Pat Neshek	Pitcher18	419	 Hoos First 	Roger Freed	Outfield18	420	 shake zula 	Dan Wheeler	Pitcher18	421	 Super Nintendo Chalmers 	John Lowenstein	Outfield18	422	 Spartans Rule 	Josh Johnson	Pitcher18	423	 Tremendous Upside 	Ray Lankford	Outfield18	424	 Doctor Detroit 	Jose Arredondo	Pitcher18	425	 Doug B 	Ray Fosse	Catcher18	426	 Chemical X 	Johnny Venters	Pitcher18	427	TRE         	Mike Easler	Outfield18	428	 Dirkswish 	Matt Wieters	Catcher18	429	 Brady Marino 	Brandon Inge	Catcher18	430	 Pumpnick 	Shane Victorino	Outfield18	431	 the moops 	Jacoby Ellsbury	Outfield18	432	 Arsenal 	Duke Farrell	Catcher19	433	 Arsenal 	Jose Oquendo	Shortstop19	434	 the moops 	Joe Thatcher	Pitcher19	435	 Pumpnick 	Omar Infante	Second Base19	436	 Brady Marino 	Ismael Valdez	Pitcher19	437	 Dirkswish 	Carl Crawford	Outfield19	438	TRE         	Derek Lilliquist	Pitcher19	439	 Chemical X 	Richie Zisk	Outfield19	440	 Doug B 	Al Oliver	Outfield19	441	 Doctor Detroit 	Ben Oglivie	Outfield19	442	 Tremendous Upside 	Jim Essian	Catcher19	443	 Spartans Rule 	Jack Aker	Pitcher19	444	 Super Nintendo Chalmers 	Floyd Youmans	Pitcher19	445	 shake zula 	Damion Easley	Second Base19	446	 Hoos First 	George McQuillan	Pitcher19	447	 Greco                 	Dan Uggla	Second Base19	448	 jfranco77 	Gus Zernial	Outfield19	449	 SoCalBroncoFan 	Cory Wade	Pitcher19	450	 sammy3469 	Carlos Quentin	Outfield19	451	 Kubes                	Jim Eisenrich	Outfield19	452	 Koya                	Kenny Lofton	Outfield19	453	 Kraft       	Jeff Tesreau	Pitcher19	454	 larry_boy_44 	Gavvy Cravath	Outfield19	455	 Eephus 	Dizzy Dean	Pitcher19	456	 RNR 	Bob Knepper	Pitcher20	457	 RNR 	Mickey Tettleton	Catcher20	458	 Eephus 	Rocky Colavito	Outfield20	459	 larry_boy_44 	Tom Henke	Pitcher20	460	 Kraft       	Gregg Jefferies	Second Base20	461	 Koya                	Harry Rice	Outfield20	462	 Kubes                	Charles Johnson	Catcher20	463	 sammy3469 	Rob Dibble	Pitcher20	464	 SoCalBroncoFan 	Roy Cullenbine	Outfield20	465	 jfranco77 	Bob Unglaub	First Base20	466	 Greco                 	Greg Vaughn	Outfield20	467	 Hoos First 	Babe Young	Pitcher20	468	 shake zula 	Todd Zeile	Third Base20	469	 Super Nintendo Chalmers 	Don Zimmer	Third Base20	470	 Spartans Rule 	Fred Nicholson	Outfield20	471	 Tremendous Upside 	Cecil Upshaw	Pitcher20	472	 Doctor Detroit 	Todd Easterly	Catcher20	473	 Doug B 	Victor Zambrano	Pitcher20	474	 Chemical X 	Byung-Hyun Kim	Pitcher20	475	TRE         	Travis Jackson	Shortstop20	476	 Dirkswish 	Christy Mathewson	Pitcher20	477	 Brady Marino 	Al Zarilla	Outfield20	478	 Pumpnick 	Bob Nieman	Outfield20	479	 the moops 	Mike Ivie	Outfield20	480	 Arsenal 	Greg Norton	Third Base21	481	 Arsenal 	Kaz Ishii	Pitcher21	482	 the moops 	David Justice	Outfield21	483	 Pumpnick 	Gene Garber	Pitcher21	484	 Brady Marino 	Dickie Thon	Shortstop21	485	 Dirkswish 	Tommy John	Pitcher21	486	TRE         	Jeremy Fikac	Pitcher21	487	 Chemical X 	Mark Ellis	Second Base21	488	 Doug B 	George Uhle	Pitcher21	489	 Doctor Detroit 	Jim turner	Pitcher21	490	 Tremendous Upside 	Pete Incaviglia	Outfield21	491	 Spartans Rule 	Emil Yde	Pitcher21	492	 Super Nintendo Chalmers 	Jose Oliva	Third Base21	493	 shake zula 	Cesar Izturis	Shortstop21	494	 Hoos First 	Frankie Zak	Shortstop21	495	 Greco                 	Art Fromme	Pitcher21	496	 jfranco77 	Jimmy Wynn	Outfield21	497	 SoCalBroncoFan 	Bob Elliott	Third Base21	498	 sammy3469 	Tom Zachary	Pitcher21	499	 Kubes                	Norm Zauchin	First Base21	500	 Koya                	Mike O'Neill	Pitcher21	501	 Kraft       	Alex Escobar	Outfield21	502	 larry_boy_44 	Oscar Gamble	Outfield21	503	 Eephus 	Chris B. Young	Outfield21	504	 RNR 	Dmitri Young	First Base22	505	 RNR 	Graeme Lloyd	Pitcher22	506	 Eephus 	Todd Haney	Second Base22	507	 larry_boy_44 	Cliff Politte	Pitcher22	508	 Kraft       	Billy Urbanski	Shortstop22	509	 Koya                	Geronimo Pena	Second Base22	510	 Kubes                	Rick Aguilera	Pitcher22	511	 sammy3469 	Cy Young	Pitcher22	512	 SoCalBroncoFan 	Joe Yeager	Third Base22	513	 jfranco77 	Cla Meredith	Pitcher22	514	 Greco                 	Zip Zabel	Pitcher22	515	 Hoos First 	Chuck Knoblauch	Second Base22	516	 shake zula 	Andruw Jones	Outfield22	517	 Super Nintendo Chalmers 	Frank Isbell	Second Base22	518	 Spartans Rule 	Jose Uribe	Shortstop22	519	 Tremendous Upside 	Esteban Yan	Pitcher22	520	 Doctor Detroit 	Jamie Quirk	Catcher22	521	 Doug B 	Alvin Dark	Shortstop22	522	 Chemical X 	Willie Upshaw	First Base22	523	TRE         	Chief Zimmer	Catcher22	524	 Dirkswish 	Joe Kuhel	First Base22	525	 Brady Marino 	Mike Epstein	First Base22	526	 Pumpnick 	Pep Young	First Base22	527	 the moops 	Jose Valverde	Pitcher22	528	 Arsenal 	Frank Viola	Pitcher23	529	 Arsenal 	Mike Young	Outfield23	530	 the moops 	Ray Prim	Pitcher23	531	 Pumpnick 	John Urrea	Pitcher23	532	 Brady Marino 	Cory Luebke	Pitcher23	533	 Dirkswish 	Paul Lindblad	Pitcher23	534	TRE         	Zack Wheat	Outfield23	535	 Chemical X 	Steve Yeager	Catcher23	536	 Doug B 	Mike Lieberthal	Catcher23	537	 Doctor Detroit 	Del Unser	Outfield23	538	 Tremendous Upside 	Hal Trosky	First Base23	539	 Spartans Rule 	Jerry Zimmerman	Catcher23	540	 Super Nintendo Chalmers 	Joe Sewell	Shortstop23	541	 shake zula 	Delmon Young	Outfield23	542	 Hoos First 	Humberto Quintero	Catcher23	543	 Greco                 	Buck O'brien	Pitcher23	544	 jfranco77 	Bubbles Hargrave	Catcher23	545	 SoCalBroncoFan 	Bob Zupcic	Outfield23	546	 sammy3469 	Jack Urban	Pitcher23	547	 Kubes                	Gary Nolan	Pitcher23	548	 Koya                	Nick Maddox	Pitcher23	549	 Kraft       	Bill Walker	Pitcher23	550	 larry_boy_44 	Bob Uecker	Catcher23	551	 Eephus 	Jeff Bagwell	First Base23	552	 RNR 	Red Schoendienst	Second Base24	553	 RNR 	Roberto Clemente	Outfield24	554	 Eephus 	Schoolboy Rowe	Pitcher24	555	 larry_boy_44 	John McGraw	Third Base24	556	 Kraft       	Jim Brewer	Pitcher24	557	 Koya                	Terry Shumpert	Second Base24	558	 Kubes                	Sam Crawford	Outfield24	559	 sammy3469 	Pete Runnels	Second Base24	560	 SoCalBroncoFan 	Willie McCovey	First Base24	561	 jfranco77 	Rob Murphy	Pitcher24	562	 Greco                 	Shane Spencer	Outfield24	563	 Hoos First 	Gates Brown	Outfield24	564	 shake zula 	Armando Benitez	Pitcher24	565	 Super Nintendo Chalmers 	Bob Hazel	Outfield24	566	 Spartans Rule 	Andy Pafko	Outfield24	567	 Tremendous Upside 	Rafael Soriano	Pitcher24	568	 Doctor Detroit 	Andrew Bailey	Pitcher24	569	 Doug B 	Cy Williams	Outfield24	570	 Chemical X 	Don Wilson	Pitcher24	571	TRE         	Sergio Romo	Pitcher24	572	 Dirkswish 	Rabbit Maranville	Shortstop24	573	 Brady Marino 	Bob Bailey	Third Base24	574	 Pumpnick 	Jim Hearn	Pitcher24	575	 the moops 	Ryan Howard	First Base24	576	 Arsenal 	Rod Beck	Pitcher25	577	 Arsenal 	Guy Zinn	Outfield25	578	 the moops 	Alex Avila	Catcher25	579	 Pumpnick 	Jose DeLeon	Pitcher25	580	 Brady Marino 	Gerald Young 	Outfield25	581	 Dirkswish 	Doyle Alexander	Pitcher25	582	TRE         	Ted Uhlaender	Outfield25	583	 Chemical X 	Tim Naehring	Third Base25	584	 Doug B 	Bob Ewing	Pitcher25	585	 Doctor Detroit 	Quilvio Veras	Second Base25	586	 larry_boy_44 	Dane Iorg	Third Base25	587	 Spartans Rule 	Hideki Irabu	Pitcher25	588	 Super Nintendo Chalmers 	Tom Underwood	Pitcher25	589	 shake zula 	Tom Urbani	Pitcher25	590	 Hoos First 	Tom Umphlett	Outfielder25	591	 Greco                 	Ralph Young	Second Base25	592	 jfranco77 	Rich Garces	Pitcher25	593	 SoCalBroncoFan 	Jerry Ujdur	Pitcher25	594	 sammy3469 	Jeff Fassero	Pitcher25	595	 Kubes                	Dennys Reyes	Pitcher25	596	 Koya                	Jimmy Zinn	Pitcher25	597	 Kraft       	Ron Northey	Outfielder25	598	 Tremendous Upside 	Jordan Zimmerman	Pitcher25	599	 Eephus 	Al Unser	Catcher25	600	 RNR 	Joe Nuxhall	Pitcher	

Edited by jfranco77, 01 February 2012 - 05:23 AM.


#5 jfranco77

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 05:07 AM

Dice Roll instructions

1d1000, 1 time, lowest roll?

http://www.rpglibrar...are/securedice/

Send to john dot franco at gmail dot com

Subject: WIS XV

Someone post an email address for me to send my dice roll and I'll do mine.

#6 Hoos First

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 05:30 AM

1d1000, rolled once. Roll set 1 Die rolls: 540 Roll subtotal: 540 Roll total: 540 Guess I'll be near the middle

#7 Pumpnick

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 05:58 AM

Roll set 1 Die rolls: 62 Roll subtotal: 62 Roll total: 62 Franco, you can send to wk516000@yahoo.com

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 06:33 AM

1d1000, rolled once. Roll set 1 Die rolls: 589 Roll subtotal: 589 Roll total: 589 sent to pump for verification

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 06:33 AM

Roll set 1 Die rolls: 45 Roll subtotal: 45 Roll total: 45 sent to franco for confirmation

Edited by the moops, 06 January 2012 - 06:34 AM.


#10 the moops

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 06:34 AM

Also - if this thing starts up in the next 10 days, I will need a partner.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 06:35 AM

1d1000, rolled once. Roll set 1 Die rolls: 589 Roll subtotal: 589 Roll total: 589 sent to pump for verification

confirmed

#12 Super Nintendo Chalmers

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 08:38 AM

1d1000, rolled once. Roll set 1 Die rolls: 467 Roll subtotal: 467 Roll total: 467
Superintendent Chalmers: "Thank the Lord"? That sounded like a prayer. A prayer in a public school. God has no place within these walls, just like facts don't have a place within an organized religion.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 08:45 AM

1d1000, rolled once. Roll set 1 Die rolls: 753 Roll subtotal: 753 Roll total: 753

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 08:50 AM

Still need owners? might be time to hop back in the WIS pool :coffee:

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 08:52 AM

Still need owners? might be time to hop back in the WIS pool :coffee:

I think there are still six spots avaliable
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 08:58 AM

Still need owners? might be time to hop back in the WIS pool :coffee:

I think there are still six spots avaliable

Count me in then :thumbup: 1d1000, rolled once. Roll set 1 Die rolls: 724 Roll subtotal: 724 Roll total: 724

Edited by Kraft..., 06 January 2012 - 09:06 AM.


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Posted 06 January 2012 - 09:04 AM

Roll set 1 Die rolls: 45 Roll subtotal: 45 Roll total: 45 sent to franco for confirmation

I didn't get it... if you also sent it to yourself please forward it. Otherwise I'll trust ya.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 09:26 AM

I think lolly_boy_44 is missing from the owner list. :thumbup: ETA: Sammy too.

Edited by RnR, 06 January 2012 - 09:37 AM.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 09:43 AM

1d1000, rolled once. Roll set 1 Die rolls: 985 Roll subtotal: 985 Roll total: 985

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 10:12 AM

I think lolly_boy_44 is missing from the owner list. :thumbup: ETA: Sammy too.

Awesome thanks.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 10:22 AM

Roll set 1 Die rolls: 45 Roll subtotal: 45 Roll total: 45 sent to franco for confirmation

I didn't get it... if you also sent it to yourself please forward it. Otherwise I'll trust ya.

Thats cause I am an idiot. I sent it to franco@gmail.com Want me to reroll?

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 10:28 AM

In. I like the alphabet soup thing. The salary part I dunno. The $1M min doesn't matter because we wouldn't be likely to draft any of those guys anyway. The $10M max majorly skews things towards offense. It wipes out 474 pitcher seasons to only 57 hitter seasons, most of which are Babe Ruth.

The very fact there are black colleges is racist against white people. It seems their racist school has had trouble filling up due to black people going to other universities(this has been stated in articles you have posted) so now black colleges are forced to be less racist, and saying hey, we don't just accept black people here you know.

 


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Posted 06 January 2012 - 10:33 AM

In. I like the alphabet soup thing. The salary part I dunno. The $1M min doesn't matter because we wouldn't be likely to draft any of those guys anyway. The $10M max majorly skews things towards offense. It wipes out 474 pitcher seasons to only 57 hitter seasons, most of which are Babe Ruth.

Maybe a salary cap is more appropriate?

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 10:37 AM

In. I like the alphabet soup thing. The salary part I dunno. The $1M min doesn't matter because we wouldn't be likely to draft any of those guys anyway. The $10M max majorly skews things towards offense. It wipes out 474 pitcher seasons to only 57 hitter seasons, most of which are Babe Ruth.

I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. The biggest casualty will the be deadball pitchers with tons of IP/162, which will force people to go with 4-5 man rotations. If we want to punish hitters equally, the cut line should be set somewhere between $7M and $8M.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 10:46 AM

In. I like the alphabet soup thing. The salary part I dunno. The $1M min doesn't matter because we wouldn't be likely to draft any of those guys anyway. The $10M max majorly skews things towards offense. It wipes out 474 pitcher seasons to only 57 hitter seasons, most of which are Babe Ruth.

I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. The biggest casualty will the be deadball pitchers with tons of IP/162, which will force people to go with 4-5 man rotations. If we want to punish hitters equally, the cut line should be set somewhere between $7M and $8M.

That is true. A lot of those 474 are deadball seasons that aren't necessarily all that valuable. I suppose the salary max will also create a fairly good spread of IP and PA seasons being used, which is probably a good thing with the alphabet soup format since we want to make every pick matter as much as possible.

The very fact there are black colleges is racist against white people. It seems their racist school has had trouble filling up due to black people going to other universities(this has been stated in articles you have posted) so now black colleges are forced to be less racist, and saying hey, we don't just accept black people here you know.

 


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Posted 06 January 2012 - 10:55 AM

1d1000, rolled once. Roll set 1 Die rolls: 8 Roll subtotal: 8 Roll total: 8

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 10:57 AM

In. I like the alphabet soup thing. The salary part I dunno. The $1M min doesn't matter because we wouldn't be likely to draft any of those guys anyway. The $10M max majorly skews things towards offense. It wipes out 474 pitcher seasons to only 57 hitter seasons, most of which are Babe Ruth.

I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. The biggest casualty will the be deadball pitchers with tons of IP/162, which will force people to go with 4-5 man rotations. If we want to punish hitters equally, the cut line should be set somewhere between $7M and $8M.

That is true. A lot of those 474 are deadball seasons that aren't necessarily all that valuable. I suppose the salary max will also create a fairly good spread of IP and PA seasons being used, which is probably a good thing with the alphabet soup format since we want to make every pick matter as much as possible.

Any opinion about lowing the max salary of position players to $8M? It'll remove 220 player seasons from the draft pool including a lot of the usual WIS suspects

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 11:16 AM

1d1000, rolled once. Roll set 1 Die rolls: 122 Roll subtotal: 122 Roll total: 122

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 11:19 AM

In. I like the alphabet soup thing. The salary part I dunno. The $1M min doesn't matter because we wouldn't be likely to draft any of those guys anyway. The $10M max majorly skews things towards offense. It wipes out 474 pitcher seasons to only 57 hitter seasons, most of which are Babe Ruth.

I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. The biggest casualty will the be deadball pitchers with tons of IP/162, which will force people to go with 4-5 man rotations. If we want to punish hitters equally, the cut line should be set somewhere between $7M and $8M.

That is true. A lot of those 474 are deadball seasons that aren't necessarily all that valuable. I suppose the salary max will also create a fairly good spread of IP and PA seasons being used, which is probably a good thing with the alphabet soup format since we want to make every pick matter as much as possible.

Any opinion about lowing the max salary of position players to $8M? It'll remove 220 player seasons from the draft pool including a lot of the usual WIS suspects

That makes sense to me. We'll see what Franco thinks since he is both the commish and probably knows the most of us about salaries.

The very fact there are black colleges is racist against white people. It seems their racist school has had trouble filling up due to black people going to other universities(this has been stated in articles you have posted) so now black colleges are forced to be less racist, and saying hey, we don't just accept black people here you know.

 


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Posted 06 January 2012 - 11:38 AM

In. I like the alphabet soup thing. The salary part I dunno. The $1M min doesn't matter because we wouldn't be likely to draft any of those guys anyway. The $10M max majorly skews things towards offense. It wipes out 474 pitcher seasons to only 57 hitter seasons, most of which are Babe Ruth.

I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. The biggest casualty will the be deadball pitchers with tons of IP/162, which will force people to go with 4-5 man rotations. If we want to punish hitters equally, the cut line should be set somewhere between $7M and $8M.

That is true. A lot of those 474 are deadball seasons that aren't necessarily all that valuable. I suppose the salary max will also create a fairly good spread of IP and PA seasons being used, which is probably a good thing with the alphabet soup format since we want to make every pick matter as much as possible.

Any opinion about lowing the max salary of position players to $8M? It'll remove 220 player seasons from the draft pool including a lot of the usual WIS suspects

That makes sense to me. We'll see what Franco thinks since he is both the commish and probably knows the most of us about salaries.

I'd be fine with lowering it to 8mil, but I suspect the pitching hit would be just as big (maybe bigger) than the impact on hitters. With an 8mil cap on pitchers, a 200ip guy will not be an ace. I use a ton of pitchers in the 8-9mil range. You can find platoon hitters easier than you can find guys for a 5-man rotation. I picked 10mil to force people to go to a 4-man rotation with a deeper bullpen. You'll probably be using 10+ pitchers with that limit in place, so more roster spots will matter. Cutting it to 8mil will make the roster spots matter even more, but I don't think it helps the problem of too much hitting depth vs. pitching depth. At 10mil, there are 375 pitchers with ERC# under 2.50 and over 150 IP. At 8mil, there are 216 pitchers with ERC# under 2.50 and over 150 IP. That's a big chunk of usable starters gone. Now, granted, 216 SPs is still not bad, if we all draft 5 of them that's only 120 (24x5). The problem is that half of them probably start with the same 4-5 letters. At 10mil there are 285 hitters with 400 PA and OPS# over 1.000 (though many are 1B/OF) At 8mil there are 176 of them with 400 PA and OPS# over 1.000 (though many are 1B/OF) Same thing... you lose a lot of hitters cutting the cap, and a lot of the good 2B/3B/SS seasons are between 8-10mil. I'm all for shrinking the draft pool so the QI/Z guys matter a little more and you have to think really hard about using your valuable letters. I just don't want to go nuts. But I'm willing to go to 8mil if people feel strongly that it will help. EDIT: I see it was just a suggestion for position players. I might like that a little more.

Edited by jfranco77, 06 January 2012 - 11:44 AM.


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Posted 06 January 2012 - 11:39 AM

Just thinking out loud. What if we followed the alphabet each round? Meaning in the first round 1.01 pick has last name A. 1.02 has last name B......1.24 has last name Z. 2nd round everyone moves down a letter. 1.01 slot (2.24) would have B (or Z, whichever way makes sense to move). Continue that for 24 rounds. :shrug:

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 11:41 AM

1d1000, rolled once. Roll set 1 Die rolls: 8 Roll subtotal: 8 Roll total: 8

First you win the 2011 league and now this. Damn.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 11:43 AM

Just thinking out loud. What if we followed the alphabet each round? Meaning in the first round 1.01 pick has last name A. 1.02 has last name B......1.24 has last name Z. 2nd round everyone moves down a letter. 1.01 slot (2.24) would have B (or Z, whichever way makes sense to move). Continue that for 24 rounds. :shrug:

I have a feeling some people would really luck out. Your #3 is R, your #2 is S, your #1 is T, that is a lot better than your #3 is J, your #2 is K, your #1 is L.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 11:44 AM

Just thinking out loud. What if we followed the alphabet each round? Meaning in the first round 1.01 pick has last name A. 1.02 has last name B......1.24 has last name Z. 2nd round everyone moves down a letter. 1.01 slot (2.24) would have B (or Z, whichever way makes sense to move). Continue that for 24 rounds. :shrug:

I have a feeling some people would really luck out. Your #3 is R, your #2 is S, your #1 is T, that is a lot better than your #3 is J, your #2 is K, your #1 is L.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 11:45 AM

In. I like the alphabet soup thing. The salary part I dunno. The $1M min doesn't matter because we wouldn't be likely to draft any of those guys anyway. The $10M max majorly skews things towards offense. It wipes out 474 pitcher seasons to only 57 hitter seasons, most of which are Babe Ruth.

I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. The biggest casualty will the be deadball pitchers with tons of IP/162, which will force people to go with 4-5 man rotations. If we want to punish hitters equally, the cut line should be set somewhere between $7M and $8M.

That is true. A lot of those 474 are deadball seasons that aren't necessarily all that valuable. I suppose the salary max will also create a fairly good spread of IP and PA seasons being used, which is probably a good thing with the alphabet soup format since we want to make every pick matter as much as possible.

Any opinion about lowing the max salary of position players to $8M? It'll remove 220 player seasons from the draft pool including a lot of the usual WIS suspects

That makes sense to me. We'll see what Franco thinks since he is both the commish and probably knows the most of us about salaries.

I'd be fine with lowering it to 8mil, but I suspect the pitching hit would be just as big (maybe bigger) than the impact on hitters. With an 8mil cap on pitchers, a 200ip guy will not be an ace. I use a ton of pitchers in the 8-9mil range. You can find platoon hitters easier than you can find guys for a 5-man rotation. I picked 10mil to force people to go to a 4-man rotation with a deeper bullpen. You'll probably be using 10+ pitchers with that limit in place, so more roster spots will matter. Cutting it to 8mil will make the roster spots matter even more, but I don't think it helps the problem of too much hitting depth vs. pitching depth. At 10mil, there are 375 pitchers with ERC# under 2.50 and over 150 IP. At 8mil, there are 216 pitchers with ERC# under 2.50 and over 150 IP. That's a big chunk of usable starters gone. Now, granted, 216 SPs is still not bad, if we all draft 5 of them that's only 120 (24x5). The problem is that half of them probably start with the same 4-5 letters. At 10mil there are 285 hitters with 400 PA and OPS# over 1.000 (though many are 1B/OF) At 8mil there are 176 of them with 400 PA and OPS# over 1.000 (though many are 1B/OF) Same thing... you lose a lot of hitters cutting the cap, and a lot of the good 2B/3B/SS seasons are between 8-10mil. I'm all for shrinking the draft pool so the QI/Z guys matter a little more and you have to think really hard about using your valuable letters. I just don't want to go nuts. But I'm willing to go to 8mil if people feel strongly that it will help.

I think it was meant to be $10m pitchers and $8m hitters

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 12:00 PM

1d1000, rolled once. Roll set 1 Die rolls: 178 Roll subtotal: 178 Roll total: 178

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 12:01 PM

Just thinking out loud. What if we followed the alphabet each round? Meaning in the first round 1.01 pick has last name A. 1.02 has last name B......1.24 has last name Z. 2nd round everyone moves down a letter. 1.01 slot (2.24) would have B (or Z, whichever way makes sense to move). Continue that for 24 rounds. :shrug:

I have a feeling some people would really luck out. Your #3 is R, your #2 is S, your #1 is T, that is a lot better than your #3 is J, your #2 is K, your #1 is L.

:shrug: Really? I think you have that backwards if anything. There are #### tons of R, S, T players. Not so many J, K, L.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 12:03 PM

Let's not over complicate things with round restrictions. Leave some room for team creativity.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 12:07 PM

Let's not over complicate things with round restrictions. Leave some room for team creativity.

I was trying to make it less complicated

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 12:10 PM

In. I like the alphabet soup thing. The salary part I dunno. The $1M min doesn't matter because we wouldn't be likely to draft any of those guys anyway. The $10M max majorly skews things towards offense. It wipes out 474 pitcher seasons to only 57 hitter seasons, most of which are Babe Ruth.

I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. The biggest casualty will the be deadball pitchers with tons of IP/162, which will force people to go with 4-5 man rotations. If we want to punish hitters equally, the cut line should be set somewhere between $7M and $8M.

That is true. A lot of those 474 are deadball seasons that aren't necessarily all that valuable. I suppose the salary max will also create a fairly good spread of IP and PA seasons being used, which is probably a good thing with the alphabet soup format since we want to make every pick matter as much as possible.

Any opinion about lowing the max salary of position players to $8M? It'll remove 220 player seasons from the draft pool including a lot of the usual WIS suspects

That makes sense to me. We'll see what Franco thinks since he is both the commish and probably knows the most of us about salaries.

I'd be fine with lowering it to 8mil, but I suspect the pitching hit would be just as big (maybe bigger) than the impact on hitters. With an 8mil cap on pitchers, a 200ip guy will not be an ace. I use a ton of pitchers in the 8-9mil range. You can find platoon hitters easier than you can find guys for a 5-man rotation. I picked 10mil to force people to go to a 4-man rotation with a deeper bullpen. You'll probably be using 10+ pitchers with that limit in place, so more roster spots will matter. Cutting it to 8mil will make the roster spots matter even more, but I don't think it helps the problem of too much hitting depth vs. pitching depth. At 10mil, there are 375 pitchers with ERC# under 2.50 and over 150 IP. At 8mil, there are 216 pitchers with ERC# under 2.50 and over 150 IP. That's a big chunk of usable starters gone. Now, granted, 216 SPs is still not bad, if we all draft 5 of them that's only 120 (24x5). The problem is that half of them probably start with the same 4-5 letters. At 10mil there are 285 hitters with 400 PA and OPS# over 1.000 (though many are 1B/OF) At 8mil there are 176 of them with 400 PA and OPS# over 1.000 (though many are 1B/OF) Same thing... you lose a lot of hitters cutting the cap, and a lot of the good 2B/3B/SS seasons are between 8-10mil. I'm all for shrinking the draft pool so the QI/Z guys matter a little more and you have to think really hard about using your valuable letters. I just don't want to go nuts. But I'm willing to go to 8mil if people feel strongly that it will help.

I think it was meant to be $10m pitchers and $8m hitters

That's what I was thinking. Even with the position player limit set $2M lower, the number of hitter seasons removed from draft pool is still lower than the >$10M pitchers.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 12:13 PM

1d1000, rolled once. Roll set 1 Die rolls: 551 Roll subtotal: 551 Roll total: 551 rolled an 85 on first attempt but had it set to roll 7 times. total assface i am.
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 12:40 PM

1d1000, rolled once. Roll set 1 Die rolls: 551 Roll subtotal: 551 Roll total: 551 rolled an 85 on first attempt but had it set to roll 7 times. total assface i am.

I rolled a 47 but hit the 7 times button. And we're not the only ones to roll 7 the first time. :wall:

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 12:40 PM

4 spots left... and a few owners need to roll dice. Is BellJr in or out? Anyone talk to him?

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 12:51 PM

4 spots left... and a few owners need to roll dice. Is BellJr in or out? Anyone talk to him?

I think Sparty makes it 3 left. Not sure about belljr. T-Up is another regular we haven't heard from. Maybe we can lure Koya in with the promise of cheap drugs and simlive marathons.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 02:17 PM

4 spots left... and a few owners need to roll dice. Is BellJr in or out? Anyone talk to him?

I think Sparty makes it 3 left. Not sure about belljr. T-Up is another regular we haven't heard from. Maybe we can lure Koya in with the promise of cheap drugs and simlive marathons.

I sent TU a text, not sure he knows about this :unsure:

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 02:28 PM

WIS XV: Alphabet Soup with a side of Salary For the purposes of the draft, the letters Q+I will be considered the same. You must draft one player whose last name begins with EITHER Q or I. The letter X will not be represented. You must draft one player for each of the remaining 23 letters. The draft will consist of 24 "normal" rounds and one "wild card" round. The wild card round will be round 24. In this round, and this round only, owners can select a player whose last name begins with a letter they have already used. (From the example above, you could select Glanville in round 24). Players whose last names begin with Z,I,Q may NOT be drafted in the wild card round.

My real last name begins with Z. Anybody here an I, Q or X?

The letter restriction WILL remain in place during the season.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 05:28 PM

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 08:18 PM

Vegas has not posted the over/under for number of in-season trades

I don't blame them, HUGE swing if Koya is somehow persuaded to join

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 06:58 AM

1d1000, rolled once. Roll set 1 Die rolls: 551 Roll subtotal: 551 Roll total: 551 rolled an 85 on first attempt but had it set to roll 7 times. total assface i am.

I rolled a 47 but hit the 7 times button. And we're not the only ones to roll 7 the first time. :wall:

Do you have my email with my role?
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Posted 07 January 2012 - 11:51 AM

yup greco i have both.




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