I understand the Steelers reasoning and I don't fault them for trying to win. My problem was there were other free agent WRs of similar quality available, like Donnie Avery and Darrius Heyward-Bey, that could have been signed to reasonable contracts and you would have gotten the 3rd round pick for Sanders as a bonus.Love our style...
As much as I wish we had that 3rd rounder for Sanders (and still do), we were only a game away from the playoffs and at that point you have to every bit of ammunition you can muster.When asked if he thought the team has mismanaged their cap, the Steelers GM Kevin Colbert said:
“No, I really don’t. Nobody has the same 53 guys. We have to manage ours as best as possible. The goal is always going to be competing for a Super Bowl championship. To win the Super Bowl championship you obviously have to get in the playoffs. That standard will never change. We’re never going to say, ‘OK, we know we’re not a contender. We’ve got to gut this thing and start over.’ I never want to see that day. As I said earlier, you don’t want to get into the position of drafting a franchise quarterback. It’ll never be acceptable for this organization to gut it and start over.
I like.Former Lions S Louis Delmas visiting Pittsburgh Steelers today per PFT Twitter account.
I couldnt think of a better replacement for Ryan Clark.
I like Ha too, but if we can get any priority FA to plug in the defense, we can shift focus on draft picks to BPA or other areas of need.I like.Former Lions S Louis Delmas visiting Pittsburgh Steelers today per PFT Twitter account.
I couldnt think of a better replacement for Ryan Clark.
Though Im pretty damn high on HaSean Dix, he has has more range then anyone else in the draft this year.
However I think we will have our choice of several outstanding prospects at spots of need for us in this draft.
Yes, our safety options have aged too much. They will be 33 and 35 this season.Really fellas, were that high on Louis Delmas?
I understand the $ & age side of things when it comes to our safeties, I guess what I was trying to say was I never thought Delmas was more than a bottom third starting safety in the NFL. Granted, that means better than what we got behind Clark, but still.Yes, our safety options have aged too much. They will be 33 and 35 this season.Really fellas, were that high on Louis Delmas?
Delmas brings a ton of athleticism to a FS spot. Meanwhile Shamarko at SS hasnt had any experience yet.
If we let Clark walk we save 4 million. And that can pay Delmas who our team would prefer going forward.
But.... I expect teams will have plenty of interest in Delmas, like the Broncos already do, making it a bit harder.
What was Clark (or Farrior) before they landed in Pittsburgh? We like athletes and specimens -- they just have to be able to "figure it out" when it comes to our particular defense..I understand the $ & age side of things when it comes to our safeties, I guess what I was trying to say was I never thought Delmas was more than a bottom third starting safety in the NFL. Granted, that means better than what we got behind Clark, but still.Yes, our safety options have aged too much. They will be 33 and 35 this season.Really fellas, were that high on Louis Delmas?
Delmas brings a ton of athleticism to a FS spot. Meanwhile Shamarko at SS hasnt had any experience yet.
If we let Clark walk we save 4 million. And that can pay Delmas who our team would prefer going forward.
But.... I expect teams will have plenty of interest in Delmas, like the Broncos already do, making it a bit harder.
Definitely on point with Clark and Farrior doing not much before coming here and seemingly becoming pro bowl caliber players once in our system. Did we get lucky with them though? We sign so few FA's, so who knows. What sort of sign is there that Delmas would suddenly get that much better if he were on our defense?What was Clark (or Farrior) before they landed in Pittsburgh? We like athletes and specimens -- they just have to be able to "figure it out" when it comes to our particular defense..I understand the $ & age side of things when it comes to our safeties, I guess what I was trying to say was I never thought Delmas was more than a bottom third starting safety in the NFL. Granted, that means better than what we got behind Clark, but still.Yes, our safety options have aged too much. They will be 33 and 35 this season.Really fellas, were that high on Louis Delmas?
Delmas brings a ton of athleticism to a FS spot. Meanwhile Shamarko at SS hasnt had any experience yet.
If we let Clark walk we save 4 million. And that can pay Delmas who our team would prefer going forward.
But.... I expect teams will have plenty of interest in Delmas, like the Broncos already do, making it a bit harder.
I think its his athleticism coupled with his willingness to hit. They just have to get him to remain "deep" as the FS.Definitely on point with Clark and Farrior doing not much before coming here and seemingly becoming pro bowl caliber players once in our system. Did we get lucky with them though? We sign so few FA's, so who knows. What sort of sign is there that Delmas would suddenly get that much better if he were on our defense?What was Clark (or Farrior) before they landed in Pittsburgh? We like athletes and specimens -- they just have to be able to "figure it out" when it comes to our particular defense..I understand the $ & age side of things when it comes to our safeties, I guess what I was trying to say was I never thought Delmas was more than a bottom third starting safety in the NFL. Granted, that means better than what we got behind Clark, but still.Yes, our safety options have aged too much. They will be 33 and 35 this season.Really fellas, were that high on Louis Delmas?
Delmas brings a ton of athleticism to a FS spot. Meanwhile Shamarko at SS hasnt had any experience yet.
If we let Clark walk we save 4 million. And that can pay Delmas who our team would prefer going forward.
But.... I expect teams will have plenty of interest in Delmas, like the Broncos already do, making it a bit harder.
Hey, Im not against signing Delmas by any means, Im just saying there is nothing to make me believe he's much of an improvement at FS. As I also said though, he's better than what we got. Thats more of a statement on the crap of our safeties than anything else though.
Doesn't Delmas have a history of knee injuries?BigSteelThrill said:What was Clark (or Farrior) before they landed in Pittsburgh? We like athletes and specimens -- they just have to be able to "figure it out" when it comes to our particular defense..Kenny Powers said:I understand the $ & age side of things when it comes to our safeties, I guess what I was trying to say was I never thought Delmas was more than a bottom third starting safety in the NFL. Granted, that means better than what we got behind Clark, but still.Yes, our safety options have aged too much. They will be 33 and 35 this season.Really fellas, were that high on Louis Delmas?
Delmas brings a ton of athleticism to a FS spot. Meanwhile Shamarko at SS hasnt had any experience yet.
If we let Clark walk we save 4 million. And that can pay Delmas who our team would prefer going forward.
But.... I expect teams will have plenty of interest in Delmas, like the Broncos already do, making it a bit harder.
Pretty much the same feeling here.Hey, Im not against signing Delmas by any means, Im just saying there is nothing to make me believe he's much of an improvement at FS
BST - Delmas was cut by DET so that would not affect compensatory picks.BigSteelThrill said:I think its his athleticism coupled with his willingness to hit. They just have to get him to remain "deep" as the FS.Kenny Powers said:Definitely on point with Clark and Farrior doing not much before coming here and seemingly becoming pro bowl caliber players once in our system. Did we get lucky with them though? We sign so few FA's, so who knows. What sort of sign is there that Delmas would suddenly get that much better if he were on our defense?BigSteelThrill said:What was Clark (or Farrior) before they landed in Pittsburgh? We like athletes and specimens -- they just have to be able to "figure it out" when it comes to our particular defense..Kenny Powers said:I understand the $ & age side of things when it comes to our safeties, I guess what I was trying to say was I never thought Delmas was more than a bottom third starting safety in the NFL. Granted, that means better than what we got behind Clark, but still.Yes, our safety options have aged too much. They will be 33 and 35 this season.Really fellas, were that high on Louis Delmas?
Delmas brings a ton of athleticism to a FS spot. Meanwhile Shamarko at SS hasnt had any experience yet.
If we let Clark walk we save 4 million. And that can pay Delmas who our team would prefer going forward.
But.... I expect teams will have plenty of interest in Delmas, like the Broncos already do, making it a bit harder.
Hey, Im not against signing Delmas by any means, Im just saying there is nothing to make me believe he's much of an improvement at FS. As I also said though, he's better than what we got. Thats more of a statement on the crap of our safeties than anything else though.
It really comes down to LeBeau and Lake thinking he can rock the position.
Also, are we going to be losing in a big free agents that would no longer allow for 2015 compensatory pick if we sign him?
I thought that only was for people we cut (if you cut them you get no comp), but that also goes for people you sign? Ok then.BST - Delmas was cut by DET so that would not affect compensatory picks.BigSteelThrill said:I think its his athleticism coupled with his willingness to hit. They just have to get him to remain "deep" as the FS.Kenny Powers said:Definitely on point with Clark and Farrior doing not much before coming here and seemingly becoming pro bowl caliber players once in our system. Did we get lucky with them though? We sign so few FA's, so who knows. What sort of sign is there that Delmas would suddenly get that much better if he were on our defense?BigSteelThrill said:What was Clark (or Farrior) before they landed in Pittsburgh? We like athletes and specimens -- they just have to be able to "figure it out" when it comes to our particular defense..Kenny Powers said:I understand the $ & age side of things when it comes to our safeties, I guess what I was trying to say was I never thought Delmas was more than a bottom third starting safety in the NFL. Granted, that means better than what we got behind Clark, but still.Yes, our safety options have aged too much. They will be 33 and 35 this season.Really fellas, were that high on Louis Delmas?
Delmas brings a ton of athleticism to a FS spot. Meanwhile Shamarko at SS hasnt had any experience yet.
If we let Clark walk we save 4 million. And that can pay Delmas who our team would prefer going forward.
But.... I expect teams will have plenty of interest in Delmas, like the Broncos already do, making it a bit harder.
Hey, Im not against signing Delmas by any means, Im just saying there is nothing to make me believe he's much of an improvement at FS. As I also said though, he's better than what we got. Thats more of a statement on the crap of our safeties than anything else though.
It really comes down to LeBeau and Lake thinking he can rock the position.
Also, are we going to be losing in a big free agents that would no longer allow for 2015 compensatory pick if we sign him?
I agree. The question is whether to cut him loose how and eat the $14 million in dead cap space but then be done with it or wait until June 1 and have him count only $5.6 million this year and $9 million in 2015.It might seem counter-intuitive, but I think the salary cap increase makes it more likely that Woodley gets cut.
Woodley is maddening, because (at times this season when healthy) he appeared to be the Woodley of old and was a disruptive force.I agree. The question is whether to cut him loose how and eat the $14 million in dead cap space but then be done with it or wait until June 1 and have him count only $5.6 million this year and $9 million in 2015.It might seem counter-intuitive, but I think the salary cap increase makes it more likely that Woodley gets cut.
I also wonder what affect Jason Worilds will have on the Woodley situation. I think it is a safe assumption that the Steelers won't keep both but would they be willing to cut Woodley if Worilds goes to another team?
Very interesting times...
If they are willing to take the $14M hit then Pittsburgh could try trading him - the cap hit would be the same. Of course a team would have to be willing to take on his salary or more likely try to sign him to a new deal as part of a trade.I agree. The question is whether to cut him loose how and eat the $14 million in dead cap space but then be done with it or wait until June 1 and have him count only $5.6 million this year and $9 million in 2015.It might seem counter-intuitive, but I think the salary cap increase makes it more likely that Woodley gets cut.
I also wonder what affect Jason Worilds will have on the Woodley situation. I think it is a safe assumption that the Steelers won't keep both but would they be willing to cut Woodley if Worilds goes to another team?
Very interesting times...
Cant they cut him now and yet name him as a June 1st cut? Im sure that's a possibility in the NFL salary structure.I agree. The question is whether to cut him loose how and eat the $14 million in dead cap space but then be done with it or wait until June 1 and have him count only $5.6 million this year and $9 million in 2015.It might seem counter-intuitive, but I think the salary cap increase makes it more likely that Woodley gets cut.
I also wonder what affect Jason Worilds will have on the Woodley situation. I think it is a safe assumption that the Steelers won't keep both but would they be willing to cut Woodley if Worilds goes to another team?
Very interesting times...
[LloydChristmas] So youre saying there's a chance.... [/LloydChristmas]BigSteelThrill said:On Wednesday, Pittsburgh Steelers general manager Kevin Colbert said there's a possibility that the organization could be more active in free agency this year than in year's past.
Raji has a good first step and penetration ability, which is terrific for a man his size, but he cant change his course (lateral agility) to save his life. He isnt the best at being a pure roadblock either.Packers won't be signing BJ Raji.
I know he hasn't looked fantastic but I think there's still some talent there. All questions of cost aside, purely on talent and potential -- is he a better answer than Nix for a NT?
Nope. I think he hasnt been as stellar as he was, but saying he could get fired this year is silliness to me.monessen said:Does anyone else think this is a "make or break" year for Colbert? At one time, the thought was remote at best. But now . . .
As much as I like Evans, there is so much depth at WR seems like it would be sort of a waste for a 1st round pick on a team with a lot of defensive needs. Lewan, I'd be ok with.Two guys projected to the Steelers in several mocks both have had great days at the combine thus far - Michigan OT Taylor Lewan and Texas A&M WR Mike Evans.
I think they're going to go BPA, provided it isn't a QB or RB. Every other position except maybe interior OL or DE is in play. I doubt they go WR in the first, but I certainly wouldn't rule it out especially after they publicly said they're going to make a big receiver a priority. Could potentially be a guy like Ebron rather than a flanker, but if Evans is the top rated player on their board still available at 15, they'll take him, IMO.As much as I like Evans, there is so much depth at WR seems like it would be sort of a waste for a 1st round pick on a team with a lot of defensive needs. Lewan, I'd be ok with.Two guys projected to the Steelers in several mocks both have had great days at the combine thus far - Michigan OT Taylor Lewan and Texas A&M WR Mike Evans.
I do wonder about the current status of free agent Defensive lineman Lamarr Houston (6-foot-3, 300 pounds).Packers won't be signing BJ Raji.
Basically answered your own question here. Don't think they really have anyone to replace him either. Can't afford to let him walk.the Raiders have a massive amount of cap space.
Round 2)My takeaways for the Steelers in the Shark Pool mock if anyone is remotely interested...
Round 1)
1.15 - ✦ Pittsburgh selects Michigan St CB Darqueze Dennard
The selection is the best "mirror" cornerback in the draft. Especially love the ability to handle the slot/nickel.
While Justin Gilbert might lend himself better to an outside corner who can play zone and help the run (very typical for the Steelers historically under Lebeau) and excel on special teams... the value of a true coverage type corner with slot ability has gone up considerably in recent years. Even Pittsburgh and their zone scheme was ready to take Revis a couple seasons ago.
Also very high on the coverage and range of HaSean Clinton-Dix. But the news is that FS Louis Delmas and the Steelers have made each other a priority.
I'm honestly hoping we trade down and get an extra pick in the 2nd or 3rd -- this is the right draft to move down a few slots and get as many picks as possible to revamp the DNot 100% sold on Nix and Ealy (but wouldn't cry about either pick) - total agreement on everyone else. If 3 QBs go in the top 8, at least one of those guys should be there. If 4 do, then at least one definitely will. I'd throw Mosley into the mix there too.
Agreed. Where we're sitting, it's probably unlikely that there's going to be that ONE GUY someone else covets enough to give up an additional draft pick for, but you never know. Maybe if one of the top 3 tackles or QBs falls, it could happen. Usually, you see the trades in the first 5-9 picks or so, or at the tail end of the round with teams looking to move into the late first to grab a QB ahead of the teams drafting at the top of the second. I don't recall a ton of trades into the middle of the first that didn't involve a QB (but Polamalu was taken after such a deal, so maybe....)The Hank said:I'm honestly hoping we trade down and get an extra pick in the 2nd or 3rd -- this is the right draft to move down a few slots and get as many picks as possible to revamp the DEvilgrin 72 said:Not 100% sold on Nix and Ealy (but wouldn't cry about either pick) - total agreement on everyone else. If 3 QBs go in the top 8, at least one of those guys should be there. If 4 do, then at least one definitely will. I'd throw Mosley into the mix there too.
Lotta people in the thread saying he was released seem to think he's fallen off the last couple years. I guess PFF also had him in the bottom 6 of ILBs against the run as well. I thought that was supposed to be his strength? Supposedly a better fit in the 4-3 as well. Considering his age, and likely pricetage, Id hope we pass on him.First it was ILB Darryl Smith being a free agent out of Baltimore.
Now its .... Browns release ILB D'Qwell Jackson.
This just shows the Steelers are in great territory. They'll be on the tale end of where the drop off is but an elite talent that probably would have gone at the top of last years draft is going to fall to them this year, hope they just sit still.After the combine, I'm hoping we get one of these guys in the 1st (in no particular order, and yes obviously Id want Watkins Clowney Mack or Robinson, but I acknowledge those guys will be gone by PIT pick):
WR: Mike Evans
TE: Eric Ebron
LT: Taylor Lewan, Jake Matthews
DE: Kony Ealy
NT: Louis Nix III
S: Ha Ha Clinton Dix
CB: Justin Gilbert, Darqueze Dennard
I agree, pass on D'Qwell -- Honestly I thought Vince Williams and Terence Garvin did a decent job towards the end of the year flanking TimmonsLotta people in the thread saying he was released seem to think he's fallen off the last couple years. I guess PFF also had him in the bottom 6 of ILBs against the run as well. I thought that was supposed to be his strength? Supposedly a better fit in the 4-3 as well. Considering his age, and likely pricetage, Id hope we pass on him.First it was ILB Darryl Smith being a free agent out of Baltimore.
Now its .... Browns release ILB D'Qwell Jackson.
Yep, this is what Im thinking.This just shows the Steelers are in great territory. They'll be on the tale end of where the drop off is but an elite talent that probably would have gone at the top of last years draft is going to fall to them this year, hope they just sit still.After the combine, I'm hoping we get one of these guys in the 1st (in no particular order, and yes obviously Id want Watkins Clowney Mack or Robinson, but I acknowledge those guys will be gone by PIT pick):
WR: Mike Evans
TE: Eric Ebron
LT: Taylor Lewan, Jake Matthews
DE: Kony Ealy
NT: Louis Nix III
S: Ha Ha Clinton Dix
CB: Justin Gilbert, Darqueze Dennard
I assume this includes an extension of some typeSteelers restructure TE Heath Miller per Ian Rapoport twitter. Had a cap hit of $9.5M previously.