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Wow. Is Okung a sure thing LT in the NFL? I'm pretty sure McCoy is considered a sure thing but I've read that Okung may have been the 5th OT off the board if he'd been in the 2009 class.
Do I think he's a sure thing LT...absolutely not. I'm hoping as a fan that McCoy is hands down the pick here. I took the "what will Detroit do" scenario here. I believe the chances of Okung here are greater than we're all assuming right now.Hopefully I'm wrongWow. Is Okung a sure thing LT in the NFL? I'm pretty sure McCoy is considered a sure thing but I've read that Okung may have been the 5th OT off the board if he'd been in the 2009 class.
I understand it was a no brainer pick but.....2010 - #1 pick overall = DL2008 - #2 pick overall = DL2007 - #13 pick overall = DLWhat percentage of the Rams total team salary will be on the DL? 25%? As much crap as the Lions have taken about drafting WR's in the 1st round, the Rams deserve a little of that.
I think Suh is the right choice at this point. None of the QBs strike me as #1 overall quality and Spags showed what he can do in 2008 with a defensive line that was loaded. I like the pick.I understand it was a no brainer pick but.....2010 - #1 pick overall = DL2008 - #2 pick overall = DL2007 - #13 pick overall = DLWhat percentage of the Rams total team salary will be on the DL? 25%? As much crap as the Lions have taken about drafting WR's in the 1st round, the Rams deserve a little of that.
Does this have anything to do with u hoping the Skins "won't" take him???Agreed for the most part, If McCoy or Okie-Kong was there, I would have taken them....A QB is a mistake, but Berry is a beast and I just cant see him being a "mistake".and to take a linemen, when the BPA could help the team, well I belive that could be a mistake. They missed Taylor deeply, and this will help them not get passed on "all day".But watch Shanny take Spiller or Dwyer anyways, lolI think that this is the worst case scenario for the Redskins. The have needs on both lines, and the best players from those positions are gone. I think Berry will be a mistake, as they would have too much money tied up with him and Landry. They would have one of the best young secondaries in the league, but I think that you have to build from the inside-out.
Shanahan knows how important it is to have a strong secondary; he traded Portis for Champ after all. If he feels Berry is that difference maker and the QB's don't float his boat taking a Safety isn't out of the question.With the 4th pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, the Washington Redskins select.....
1.04 ERIC BERRY - S - TENNESSEE
A lot of people believe the Skins should take a QB here, I disagree....
I know Bradford says his shoulder is healthy, but I can not risk the future of the franchise and the waste of money on a guy who hurt the same shoulder twice in the same year, and almost as soon as he came back. Clausen is a very good prospect as well, but IMO, he is not better then any other of the top 5 QBs. I believe Campbell is very capable, and if they need to address this they will probably do so in the 2nd rd.
Eric Berry is a beast in the secondary, and after last year we all know that the Skins can use the help. Since the death of Taylor they lost a lot at safety, and with Rogers future with the Skins in the air, you need a versitle player like Berry who can also play corner and return the ball. He is quite possibly the safest pick in the draft.
Another option here is an OT, with Samuels leavin, Shanny might want to sure up that OL for his type of style offense. But when a great player is on the board that can change the face of the franchise on D, YOU TAKE HIM.
Landry and Berry in the deep secondary is scary, no?
I definitely think they're good picks, but NFL organizations can't be thinking the way we are on this board. They need to worry about ticket sales, who will be the face of the organization, and having a franchise QB. I think in a mock like this, Clausen and Bradford probably aren't real exciting picks, but in the real draft with real teams, they will need to consider many more things than us.lexus said:1.05 & 1.06 are two great picks by their respective team's Draftmasters!
Some of the NFL organizations should take note of this!
Way to go guys.
While QB's are very risky...no matter what ticket sales, merch, and popularity/excitment surrounds a team when it happens.I definitely think they're good picks, but NFL organizations can't be thinking the way we are on this board. They need to worry about ticket sales, who will be the face of the organization, and having a franchise QB. I think in a mock like this, Clausen and Bradford probably aren't real exciting picks, but in the real draft with real teams, they will need to consider many more things than us.lexus said:1.05 & 1.06 are two great picks by their respective team's Draftmasters!
Some of the NFL organizations should take note of this!
Way to go guys.
JMHO
Well, if SLO and WAS and SEA are worried about getting franchise faces (read as franchise QBs for the future), then with 1 or 2 or 3 QBs getting drafted early rather than late the whole draft picture would change significantly.So how many QBs do you see going in the top 5, top 10, top 15, top 20, top 32?I definitely think they're good picks, but NFL organizations can't be thinking the way we are on this board. They need to worry about ticket sales, who will be the face of the organization, and having a franchise QB. I think in a mock like this, Clausen and Bradford probably aren't real exciting picks, but in the real draft with real teams, they will need to consider many more things than us.lexus said:1.05 & 1.06 are two great picks by their respective team's Draftmasters!
Some of the NFL organizations should take note of this!
Way to go guys.
JMHO
Good call.....Someone take the Falcons and lets get this show on the road.
I'm going out of town Thursday night
I didn't mean so as a hit on what you said as I think Clausen and Bradford will probably drop farther in this mock than they will in the real draft because they probably aren't popular picks in a mock where football minded guys are trying to impress other football minded guys.Does that make any sense at all?Well, if SLO and WAS and SEA are worried about getting franchise faces (read as franchise QBs for the future), then with 1 or 2 or 3 QBs getting drafted early rather than late the whole draft picture would change significantly.So how many QBs do you see going in the top 5, top 10, top 15, top 20, top 32?I definitely think they're good picks, but NFL organizations can't be thinking the way we are on this board. They need to worry about ticket sales, who will be the face of the organization, and having a franchise QB. I think in a mock like this, Clausen and Bradford probably aren't real exciting picks, but in the real draft with real teams, they will need to consider many more things than us.lexus said:1.05 & 1.06 are two great picks by their respective team's Draftmasters!
Some of the NFL organizations should take note of this!
Way to go guys.
JMHO
I'd be SHOCKED if the lions go Okung here. I would not be surprised to see Okung fall and be the 2nd OT taken off the board. The lions have a glaring weakness (actually, number of glaring weaknesses) at the one position that has the two elite prospects. If they pass on one of them for a tackle who is not a top prospect it'll go against all that the lions F.O has preached since he who's name should not be spoken was fired.Do I think he's a sure thing LT...absolutely not. I'm hoping as a fan that McCoy is hands down the pick here. I took the "what will Detroit do" scenario here. I believe the chances of Okung here are greater than we're all assuming right now.Hopefully I'm wrongWow. Is Okung a sure thing LT in the NFL? I'm pretty sure McCoy is considered a sure thing but I've read that Okung may have been the 5th OT off the board if he'd been in the 2009 class.
Someone should just hijack the Browns, and pick.Good call.....Someone take the Falcons and lets get this show on the road.
I'm going out of town Thursday night
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Jeff Backus graded out pretty well last year, no? Not sure I see the need for Okung over McCoy either.I'd be SHOCKED if the lions go Okung here. I would not be surprised to see Okung fall and be the 2nd OT taken off the board. The lions have a glaring weakness (actually, number of glaring weaknesses) at the one position that has the two elite prospects. If they pass on one of them for a tackle who is not a top prospect it'll go against all that the lions F.O has preached since he who's name should not be spoken was fired.Do I think he's a sure thing LT...absolutely not. I'm hoping as a fan that McCoy is hands down the pick here. I took the "what will Detroit do" scenario here. I believe the chances of Okung here are greater than we're all assuming right now.Hopefully I'm wrongWow. Is Okung a sure thing LT in the NFL? I'm pretty sure McCoy is considered a sure thing but I've read that Okung may have been the 5th OT off the board if he'd been in the 2009 class.
Yeah, coaches had said that he graded out well. I think the argument has been raised that drafting Okung (or another LT) would essentially fill two roles -- either he plays LG or RT while Backus winds down his career or he is better than BAckus and Backus moves to one of those positions and improving it.I think they need a LT to protect Stafford, but not this year when Suh and McCoy are available to help the 2 time worst defense in the league champs.Correct me if I'm wrong, but Jeff Backus graded out pretty well last year, no? Not sure I see the need for Okung over McCoy either.I'd be SHOCKED if the lions go Okung here. I would not be surprised to see Okung fall and be the 2nd OT taken off the board. The lions have a glaring weakness (actually, number of glaring weaknesses) at the one position that has the two elite prospects. If they pass on one of them for a tackle who is not a top prospect it'll go against all that the lions F.O has preached since he who's name should not be spoken was fired.Do I think he's a sure thing LT...absolutely not. I'm hoping as a fan that McCoy is hands down the pick here. I took the "what will Detroit do" scenario here. I believe the chances of Okung here are greater than we're all assuming right now.Hopefully I'm wrongWow. Is Okung a sure thing LT in the NFL? I'm pretty sure McCoy is considered a sure thing but I've read that Okung may have been the 5th OT off the board if he'd been in the 2009 class.
I did not take your comment as a hit, in any manner, way, shape, or form. I agree with you 100%.And now I would like some discussion on how the drafting of 1 or 2 or 3 QBs could impact the first round of the NFL draft itself.I didn't mean so as a hit on what you said as I think Clausen and Bradford will probably drop farther in this mock than they will in the real draft because they probably aren't popular picks in a mock where football minded guys are trying to impress other football minded guys.Does that make any sense at all?Well, if SLO and WAS and SEA are worried about getting franchise faces (read as franchise QBs for the future), then with 1 or 2 or 3 QBs getting drafted early rather than late the whole draft picture would change significantly.So how many QBs do you see going in the top 5, top 10, top 15, top 20, top 32?I definitely think they're good picks, but NFL organizations can't be thinking the way we are on this board. They need to worry about ticket sales, who will be the face of the organization, and having a franchise QB. I think in a mock like this, Clausen and Bradford probably aren't real exciting picks, but in the real draft with real teams, they will need to consider many more things than us.lexus said:1.05 & 1.06 are two great picks by their respective team's Draftmasters!
Some of the NFL organizations should take note of this!
Way to go guys.
JMHO
Anyway, pretty much everyone here probably thinks it's a no brainer pick for St. Louis to take Suh but I'm quite sure they are and will be studying Bradford and Clausen very hard because they're a crappy team that isn't giving their fanbase any reason for excitement. They need a franchise QB badly. How many ticket sales are those 3 first round defensive lineman going to bring in anyway?
Knowing the Browns, I'm sure that they will pull off something worse than this at their pick! And I'm 100% serious!With the 7th overall pick in the 2010 NFL draft the Cleveland Browns select:
ROLANDO McCLAIN LB ALABAMA
The Browns need to hit on all of their draft selections and McClain is a pretty solid pick. No one is a "can't miss" but a talent linebacker like McClain is pretty close. So it would behoove them to add a fast-rising prospect like McClain, an amazing tackler that can cover a lot of ground from the middle linebacker spot. He’s got great fundamentals and has a knack of shedding blockers to make big tackles.
I really wanted Haden. This would definetly be the worse case scenario for Cleveland
If not, his shoulder will just pop out again. So hope you get some OL help in the 2nd.With the 9th selection the Buffalo Bills select...
Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma Sooners
I was really surprised to see both of the QB’s available and was almost dreading having to decide between the two. But I guess I would rather have the problem of picking which one I wanted as to not having either one available. I think the Buffalo Bills need a franchise QB more than any other team in the NFL right now. The options the Bills have on the roster are pure cannon fodder.
When trying to decide between the two I chose to go with the one I felt would be better for the Bills offense. Not really knowing what the offense is going to be like I tried to think of Chan Gailey while in K.C. He was able to open up the passing attack and use a more agile QB. So I guess that’s why I went with Bradford. I feel his running ability is not great but much better than people seem to think. His shoulder is going to test out just fine and the Bills will fall in love with his accuracy and intelligence. When Bradford was healthy his freshman and sophomore years he was in my opinion hands down the best QB in the NCAA. The Buffalo Bills get themselves the franchise QB they have been searching for since Jim Kelly. Now all we have to do is protect him…
That must be one long write up I think someone fell asleep. Nice job on getting in the pic.Let's get this thing going again this morning, sorry for the delay yesterday (I didn't know it had started to be honest.)Looking forward to today and getting alot of submissions.Wadsworth said:With the 10th pick the Jacksonville Jaguars select:Jimmy Clausen - QB - Notre DameI'll do a write up later. Just popped on so as not to hold things up too much.
If Clausen does drop down to the Jags (which I find highly unlikely), I can't see them going any other way. He's not Mr. Gator, but they're looking for a new QB, and he should help sell some tickets too.Well there goes my theory that QB's wouldn't be popular in this mock. Shows what little I know.
That's three thingsI know this is a Shark Pool draft, but 2 things have happened in here that will not happen on draft day.1) A QB will go in the top 5. Someone will probably trade up.2) The Jags will not take a QB in round 1. Not that I think Garrad is a long term answer, but he somehow made it to the Pro Bowl. Why would you take a QB in the 1st after that?
I'm not saying they definitely will, but both the team owner and coach have all but said that Garrard is not the answer. As for the Pro Bowl, he was one of three alternates for the AFC team, but that says more about the lack of consistent QB play in the conference than it does about him.2) The Jags will not take a QB in round 1. Not that I think Garrad is a long term answer, but he somehow made it to the Pro Bowl. Why would you take a QB in the 1st after that?
QB is not the biggest position of need for the Jaguars, but the Garrard experiment has run it's course. While he did sneak into the Pro bowl, he was the 4th QB from his own division offered an invitation, much less the entire AFC. His 4th quarter QB rating during the latest late season collapse of the Jaguars was somewhere around 50. Pro Bowl or not, he's is not a QB to rebuild around and the Jaguars are in full on rebuild mode.I know this is a Shark Pool draft, but 2 things have happened in here that will not happen on draft day.2) The Jags will not take a QB in round 1. Not that I think Garrad is a long term answer, but he somehow made it to the Pro Bowl. Why would you take a QB in the 1st after that?
Well I do hope so. If KC is sitting there like they are in this mock, then I pray someone wants to jump in front of Seattle to pick the QB of their choice. And I would further hope it would be Buffalo, to keep us in front of Denver for a pass rusher or NT Williams. As is, I would hope KC would take Dez Bryant over Davis. Albert fills LT adequately, and we can get RT/G/C later in 2nd round, but we won't get another Dez Bryant. Don't get me wrong tho, I am ok with Davis, but just ok. Stinkin Ref was definitely put in a tough spot, all 4 of the logical picks for KC were gone.I know this is a Shark Pool draft, but 2 things have happened in here that will not happen on draft day.
1) A QB will go in the top 5. Someone will probably trade up.
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I agree with a lot of what you said.....I could see KC's phone ringing off the hook and them very easily trading down out of this pick.....especially on draft day if STL and WASH pass on a QB....personally I think as the draft gets closer, there will be quite a few teams looking to move up to the 5th slot in front of several of the teams right behind KC who may be looking at QB or Spiller.....KC could still get quality picks later in the first and adding picks in later rounds would be nice....the true winner may be the team that ends up with Bryant after all the smoke clears....would love to see KC add Bryant, but if they do, I don't think it will be with the 5th pick....it might happen if they trade down a few slots.....if/when Marshall leaves Denver, they immediatley jump into the Bryant equation because any deal involving Marshall probably means another high pick coming Denver's way......and that would allow them to use their first pick on Bryant and fill some other holes with the pick/s they get for Marshall......Well I do hope so. If KC is sitting there like they are in this mock, then I pray someone wants to jump in front of Seattle to pick the QB of their choice. And I would further hope it would be Buffalo, to keep us in front of Denver for a pass rusher or NT Williams. As is, I would hope KC would take Dez Bryant over Davis. Albert fills LT adequately, and we can get RT/G/C later in 2nd round, but we won't get another Dez Bryant. Don't get me wrong tho, I am ok with Davis, but just ok. Stinkin Ref was definitely put in a tough spot, all 4 of the logical picks for KC were gone.I know this is a Shark Pool draft, but 2 things have happened in here that will not happen on draft day.
1) A QB will go in the top 5. Someone will probably trade up.
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Good work so far gang! Only pick I truly dislike is Jacksonville, just can't see them NOT taking Dez Bryant at that point. He and MSW would improve that team much more than Clausen, imo. But the ticket sales angle is a big one, and it's not my $ we're talkin about. Best pick in top baker's dozen - Miami nabbing the consensus top WR @12, a true steal!
Thanks for the mock, I'm enjoyin it!