ghostguy123
Footballguy
12 team PPR dynasty, 1.5 PPR for TEs
pick 7
for
pick 12
Antonio Gates
pick 7
for
pick 12
Antonio Gates
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2013 Off Season Dynasty Trade Thread (for completed trades) (3 Viewers)
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LongDuckDong
Footballguy
3.6 (Terrence Williams), 4.6 for 2014 2nd, 4.12
minor Deal.
minor Deal.
cstu
Footballguy
cstu
Footballguy
The first one looks good to me - Stafford for Romo and a 1st
Hernandez looks like the winner, but I've seen Hopkins drop to 1.9 and Ball/Hunter should still be there.
1.10 is right at the edge what I consider a big dropoff in the draft. Would Pead/Lattimore be worth Hopkins? If Patterson fell I'd be kicking myself.
I'm not even a Wright fan but I'm taking the 1.04 side.
1st trade - Team J. I would much prefer the immediacy of team Js lot in the first trade. Seeing as it seems relatively easy to get picks well ahead of the year, regaining the value of the 1st in 2016 should be manageable, and I don't see the output between Romo and Staff as being that much over the next few years. I would be pretty happy with nabbing a 2014 pick at this point.
2nd trade - I'm not the biggest Hernandez fan, but I probably saddle on that side of the equation. I like the value 1.09 has been getting recently though, so depends on how the draft falls.
3rd trade - Not really a fan of Pead, would well prefer the types of players available at 1.05. View it more as 1.05>>>1.10, Pead relatively valueless in my books.
4th trade - Difference between 1.01 and 1.04 isn't too much this year. I'm a massive Ivory fan though, and reckon he could certainly be worth a gander if he was a FA, so I don't see the different between him and 1.04 as that huge. If you roughly equate 1.01 to a mid 2014 first, it comes down to Wright/3.02, who I would prefer over Baldwin/2014 2nd (And I still have some faint hopes for Baldwin haha...) Would prefer T but wouldn't complain with R either in a PPR.
Sent - Ivory/1.06/Stevie Brown/2014 2nd
Received - David Wilson
I sent the offer knowing it was a lowball, went back and forth a bit but he ended up accepting the original offer...
He's an interested character when the draft rolls around.
2 superflex spots with 6 points all TDs so at 1.06, one of Austin/Patterson/Hopkins/Bell/Bernard will be available. Or if he's lucky a QB will drop there.
QBs - Roeth/Kaepernick/Hoyer
RB - Rice/Richardson/Wilson/Stewart/Tate/DRich
WR - Megatron/Nicks/Jennings/Sanders/VBrown/Baldwin
TE - Witten/Cook/Bennett
IDP
Received - David Wilson
I sent the offer knowing it was a lowball, went back and forth a bit but he ended up accepting the original offer...
He's an interested character when the draft rolls around.
2 superflex spots with 6 points all TDs so at 1.06, one of Austin/Patterson/Hopkins/Bell/Bernard will be available. Or if he's lucky a QB will drop there.
QBs - Roeth/Kaepernick/Hoyer
RB - Rice/Richardson/Wilson/Stewart/Tate/DRich
WR - Megatron/Nicks/Jennings/Sanders/VBrown/Baldwin
TE - Witten/Cook/Bennett
IDP
Sent: Antonio Gates
Received: Brandon Myers
I don't expect Myers to sniff the 80 catches he had last year but I think 60/800/7 is reasonable for the Giants. Gates hasn't produced more than that the past three seasons and he's 5 years older, but I still wouldn't be surprised if he outperformed Myers next year. I consider them pretty equal; Myers has a lower ceiling but is younger and in a better offense. Tony G has remained productive at 35 but then again he has Julio and Roddy clearing defenses, so the comparison is not ideal, and Gates could be about done.
Received: Brandon Myers
I don't expect Myers to sniff the 80 catches he had last year but I think 60/800/7 is reasonable for the Giants. Gates hasn't produced more than that the past three seasons and he's 5 years older, but I still wouldn't be surprised if he outperformed Myers next year. I consider them pretty equal; Myers has a lower ceiling but is younger and in a better offense. Tony G has remained productive at 35 but then again he has Julio and Roddy clearing defenses, so the comparison is not ideal, and Gates could be about done.
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
I just looked at my team in the Superflex league I've been posting some trades from in. I have through a series of trades.
Gave:
Chris Johnson
David Wilson
Greg Jennings
Reggie Bush
Danny Amendola
Got:
Trent Richardson
AJ Green
Greg McElroy
Devery Henderson
Joel Dreesen.
2.08 Rookie Pick (20th overall)
2014 1st rounder.
Mind you this was through a half dozen trades though with various owner. My team was 1 missed Reggie Bush start away from being the champions last season. Heavily stocked and had some sick depth. I'm happy with the additions of Richardson and Green going forward for a long time. Obviously I'll dump McElroy, Henderson, and Dreesen in this draft coming up. Hopefully replacing Henderson with a prospect.
Just happened to take a look today and feel I did well moving forward.
My team now looks like this.
McElroy, Greg NYJ QB - 10
Newton, Cam CAR QB (P) - 4
Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB (P) - 4
Hillis, Peyton FA RB - -
Ivory, Christopher NYJ RB - 10
Lynch, Marshawn SEA RB - 12
Miller, Lamar MIA RB - 6
Powell, Bilal NYJ RB - 10
Richardson, Trent CLE RB - 10
Turbin, Robert SEA RB - 12
Givens, Chris STL WR - 11
Green, A.J. CIN WR - 12
Harvin, Percy SEA WR - 12
Henderson, Devery FA* WR - -
Jenkins, A.J. SFO WR - 9
LaFell, Brandon CAR WR - 4
Marshall, Brandon CHI WR (P) - 8
Wayne, Reggie IND WR - 8
Wright, Kendall TEN WR - 8
Dreessen, Joel DEN TE - 9
Gonzalez, Tony ATL TE - 6
Pitta, Dennis BAL TE - 8
Barth, Connor TBB PK - 5
Broncos, Denver DEN Def - 9
Gave:
Chris Johnson
David Wilson
Greg Jennings
Reggie Bush
Danny Amendola
Got:
Trent Richardson
AJ Green
Greg McElroy
Devery Henderson
Joel Dreesen.
2.08 Rookie Pick (20th overall)
2014 1st rounder.
Mind you this was through a half dozen trades though with various owner. My team was 1 missed Reggie Bush start away from being the champions last season. Heavily stocked and had some sick depth. I'm happy with the additions of Richardson and Green going forward for a long time. Obviously I'll dump McElroy, Henderson, and Dreesen in this draft coming up. Hopefully replacing Henderson with a prospect.
Just happened to take a look today and feel I did well moving forward.
My team now looks like this.
McElroy, Greg NYJ QB - 10
Newton, Cam CAR QB (P) - 4
Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB (P) - 4
Hillis, Peyton FA RB - -
Ivory, Christopher NYJ RB - 10
Lynch, Marshawn SEA RB - 12
Miller, Lamar MIA RB - 6
Powell, Bilal NYJ RB - 10
Richardson, Trent CLE RB - 10
Turbin, Robert SEA RB - 12
Givens, Chris STL WR - 11
Green, A.J. CIN WR - 12
Harvin, Percy SEA WR - 12
Henderson, Devery FA* WR - -
Jenkins, A.J. SFO WR - 9
LaFell, Brandon CAR WR - 4
Marshall, Brandon CHI WR (P) - 8
Wayne, Reggie IND WR - 8
Wright, Kendall TEN WR - 8
Dreessen, Joel DEN TE - 9
Gonzalez, Tony ATL TE - 6
Pitta, Dennis BAL TE - 8
Barth, Connor TBB PK - 5
Broncos, Denver DEN Def - 9
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Cookiemonster
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FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Gave: 5 above average pieces
Got: 2 absolute studs, a bunch of junk, and a 1st round draft pick
I'll take the studs any day. Wilson is the only one that I would have been wary of giving up but for Green/Richardson it's more than worth it.
cstu
Footballguy
I was on the other side. You never know, but I'm a Chargers fan and think Gates is almost done. My hope is to get a better year out of him than Myers and then hopefully Green (who I also own) takes over for Gates. Green is right up there with Danario as the most talented receiver on the team. After Gates leaves there will be a big hole in the offense that can't be filled by possession guys like Allen and Brown.
I was in the pool
Footballguy
Love a move like this in 13 rookie drafts8ebok24 said:
Skeletore Eh
Footballguy
Benjarvus green Ellis
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Brian hartline
For
Brian hartline
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I had to sacrifice Wilson to get Richardson.FreeBaGeL said:
I always like solidifying two or three above average guys into a stud. Plus the studs are just babies. Still have all their best football ahead of them. I'm not sure you can say that about any of the guys I traded away. I'm licking my chops to start AJ Green, Percy Harvin, and Brandon Marshall with Reggie Wayne in reserve this year. It makes my failed attempts to get Gronk or Graham more palatable.
Not sure who to grab with that 20th pick this year but I'm leaning Da'Rick Rogers right now in a "swing for the fences" type of move. Might go Kelce though or Brandon Meyers (who is inexplicably unrostered).
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ghostguy123
Footballguy
pretty easily WIlson side. Picks 3 and 5 are real close to me, and I would take WIlson by a TON over pick #1, especially if your draft is anytime soon.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Plaid Boxer
Footballguy
$220 salary cap, 1qb, 1 rb, 2wr, 1te, 1flex rb/wr/te PPR
High risk, high reward...
Traded
Ridley $10, Vereen $1, and DJax $11
For
MJD $22, Wallace $22
Currently will start Cam, ray Rice, MJD, Julio, MJD,
Still need a te only have Cameron
Depth is Ballard, Beanie, Maclin, decker
Still have 40% of my cap money mostly rookies available
High risk, high reward...
Traded
Ridley $10, Vereen $1, and DJax $11
For
MJD $22, Wallace $22
Currently will start Cam, ray Rice, MJD, Julio, MJD,
Still need a te only have Cameron
Depth is Ballard, Beanie, Maclin, decker
Still have 40% of my cap money mostly rookies available
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Sabertooth
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Sabertooth
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ghostguy123
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ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Wow. How the hell do you also get a 2014 1st back in a deal like this?
Not sure, but I would say it is influenced by the additional non-rookies in the draft pool this year and the 2014 pick being very likely to be at the back.
I posted here to see what others would say, but I don't view the trade heavily favored either way. They seem like all top 10 WRs to me...more of pick your poison I thought.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Julio and Harvin are clearly valued above those two by most, which is why my reaction was 'wow'.
Bamac
Footballguy
I'll take the side with this year's 1.04. Only 8 keepers this year makes that a pretty good player, I'd bet. Next year's 1st is far less valuable given the league setup.
I would tend to agree with your assessment. While I think most of those guys slot in to the WR3-10ish range... at least around these parts Julio and Harvin are in the front half of that range and Nicks and Fitz after at the back.
However, sometimes I also think that 3-10ish range is fairly flat and the differences are overblown somewhat.
r0llin_game
Footballguy
Draft has started, some draft day trades.
Team A gives: Marshawn Lynch
Team B gives: 1.07 (Eddie Lacy), 3.07
Team C gives: Philip Rivers
Team D gives: 3.04, 5.03, '14 2nd
r0llin_game
Footballguy
QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, K, RB/WR/TE Flex
Team A gives: LeSean McCoy, Stevie Johnson
Team B gives: Reggie Bush, Vincent Jackson, 1.06, 1.07
Team A gives: 1.06 (DeAndre Hopkins), 1.07 (Eddie Lacy)
Team C gives: David Wilson, Vincent Brown, Rod Streater, 2.07, 3.02
Team A gives: Andy Dalton, Reggie Bush, Mikel Leshoure, 3.05
Team D gives: Robert Griffin III, Shonn Greene, Beanie Wells, 1.10
Team A gives: LeSean McCoy, Stevie Johnson
Team B gives: Reggie Bush, Vincent Jackson, 1.06, 1.07
Team A gives: 1.06 (DeAndre Hopkins), 1.07 (Eddie Lacy)
Team C gives: David Wilson, Vincent Brown, Rod Streater, 2.07, 3.02
Team A gives: Andy Dalton, Reggie Bush, Mikel Leshoure, 3.05
Team D gives: Robert Griffin III, Shonn Greene, Beanie Wells, 1.10
ghostguy123
Footballguy
12 team PPR Dynasty 1.5 PPR for TE
pick 7
San Fran Defense
for
his 2014 1st (99% sure thing non playoff pick)
Seattle Defense
pick 7
San Fran Defense
for
his 2014 1st (99% sure thing non playoff pick)
Seattle Defense
Lean towards McCoy, but the volume in the first trade is enough to balance it.
Wilson and Brown (I think Brown is well worth the risk... Paid an ahead-of-time 2014 first for him last year......) comfortably. Similar to the trade I just made with Ivory instead of 1.07 for Wilson.
RG3 and 1.10.
r0llin_game
Footballguy
I think team A made out really well. He essentially traded Dalton, Shady, Leshoure, Stevie Johnson, 3.05forRGIII, David Wilson, Beanie, Greene, VJax, Streater, VB, 1.10, 2.07, 3.02.
a_rackowski
Footballguy
Pprec
Start 3dl 3lb 4db 1 defense flex
5 pt per sack.
Pick 1.1 and 1.12 for Reggie bush and aldon Smith
Start 3dl 3lb 4db 1 defense flex
5 pt per sack.
Pick 1.1 and 1.12 for Reggie bush and aldon Smith
Skeletore Eh
Footballguy
Mjd
3.05
For
1.06. Pick was OTC and the guy took Leveon bell
3.05
For
1.06. Pick was OTC and the guy took Leveon bell
cstu
Footballguy
The guy getting MJD is going to regret that.
Yea, that's what I'm thinking. 28-year old workhorse back for the 1.06? Yahtzee! Who are you going to get at the 1.06 that is better than even one or two years of a feature back?
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Would depend on my team - if I don't think I'm a genuine contender I'd rather have the rookie. If I'm in the mix, I'll take MJD. This time next year MJD could be at Frank Gore trade value, which is almost nothing.
cstu
Footballguy
MJD strikes as one of those guys who is going to hit the wall hard. I'm not even convinced he'll outperform Bell this year.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
It's close in my opinion. I'd lean MJD unless I wasn't in the hunt this year, or, if MJD was my RB3 and I could afford to gamble.
BoltzNBrew
Footballguy
A couple in draft trades so far, Dynasty PPR.
Team A Gave: Justin Blackmon
Team B Gave: TY.Hilton, 2013 3.01,5.01
Team A Gave 2013 2.02(Justin Hunter), 3.01
Team B Gave Dennis Pitta, 2013 2.07
Team A Gave: Justin Blackmon
Team B Gave: TY.Hilton, 2013 3.01,5.01
Team A Gave 2013 2.02(Justin Hunter), 3.01
Team B Gave Dennis Pitta, 2013 2.07
pghrob
Hail to the Chief
I am thinking Le'Veon Bell who just turned 21 has a great chance for mid to low rb2 stats this year and chance for mid to low rb1 stats over the next 5 years assuming he stays healthy. Looks like a great trade for the guy who traded away MJD.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Only one in four RBs drafted in the 2nd round give you 50 career VBD. MJD should surpass that in 2013 alone if he's healthy. 28 year old stud >>>>>>>>>> young mediocrity. Unless your team is an absolute dog for the next few years this is a slam dunk in favor of MJD. The odds of a random 2nd round rookie RB giving 5+ years of RB1 production are obscenely low.
