Sabertooth
Footballguy
He's a plodder for sure.
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Bilal Powell - Potential Deep Sleeper? (1 Viewer)
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
He actually has pretty nice straight line speed for a back his size. He has very little ability to make people miss and/or gain yards on his own (i.e. he's not getting much other than what is blocked for him).
ninerfanatic492000
Footballguy
Greene and powell looked horrid. Mcknight(who didn't play till 2nd half) was pretty productive
werdnoynek
Footballguy
it was a horrible night for the first team offense all around. powell was the 3rd down back with the starters i believe, which might mean something, might not. he did allow one of the sacks, otherwise his pass protection was pretty good and he looked better with the ball in his hands than greene did, but that isn't saying much. i think the jury is still out on this whole offense.
Steel Dillo
Footballguy
Sabertooth
Footballguy
He's not going to produce much until late in the season. He's not a guy I'd roster in a redraft at this point unless you have deep benches.
Todem
Footballguy
I have been hanging on to this guy in my deep roster dynasty leagues.
I am not expecting much, even if he becomes the lead dog. The mere fact that the Jets have absolutely no threat of a real passing game has me bearish at best on any back on this team.
I think Powell is a slight upgrade over Greene (who has alwways been a turd in my mind) but nothing to get too excited about. We can see a change within 4-6 weeks if their season starts to derail quickly.
I am not expecting much, even if he becomes the lead dog. The mere fact that the Jets have absolutely no threat of a real passing game has me bearish at best on any back on this team.
I think Powell is a slight upgrade over Greene (who has alwways been a turd in my mind) but nothing to get too excited about. We can see a change within 4-6 weeks if their season starts to derail quickly.
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Mortimer Ichabod
Footballguy
I'm not exactly sure why Waldman was so high on this guy. I dropped Dwyer to keep him in dynasty before training camp (oof!) and he just looks like an average joe RB who will get what is blocked, nothing more.
Seems like he may be a good pickup...
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/bilal-powell-beats-joe-mcknight-ny-jets-third-down-running-back-job-article-1.1152164
A few players told the News last week that they were impressed with Powell's pass protection skills. (Remember: Mark Sanchez was sacked 39 times in 2011).
Powell finished the preseason with 92 yards on 26 carries and three catches for 17 yards. A few offensive players told the News last week that Powell was the best player flying under the radar in camp.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/bilal-powell-beats-joe-mcknight-ny-jets-third-down-running-back-job-article-1.1152164
A few players told the News last week that they were impressed with Powell's pass protection skills. (Remember: Mark Sanchez was sacked 39 times in 2011).
Powell finished the preseason with 92 yards on 26 carries and three catches for 17 yards. A few offensive players told the News last week that Powell was the best player flying under the radar in camp.
mphtrilogy
Footballguy
gonna take a flyer on him this week, gonna bid the minimum tho
wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
Bump... I'm really starting to get a good feeling about this guy.
No real basis for my gut feeling, but Greene is clearly not the answer and Powell seems like the only reasonable option behind him.
He costs basically nothing right now and I think he is one of the best end of roster values(your last or 2nd to last roster spot) going right now.
As we know with Greene, if Powell can get the job, where looking at 250 carries a year.
No real basis for my gut feeling, but Greene is clearly not the answer and Powell seems like the only reasonable option behind him.
He costs basically nothing right now and I think he is one of the best end of roster values(your last or 2nd to last roster spot) going right now.
As we know with Greene, if Powell can get the job, where looking at 250 carries a year.
FavreAndAwayAnIdiot
Footballguy
Until the Jets draft someone better next year.Powell has a very short window to prove his worth as a low(er) draft pick on a run-focused team. If he doesn't light #### up, he's a backup again starting next season.
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cstu
Footballguy
Or sign someone away from the Texans this year. Grimes could easily be the starter by midseason.
wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
That's also a possibility, and probably the smart idea for the Jets.But Greene has been one of the most mediocre backs in the league for what? 3 years now? and they haven't spent higher than a 4th rounder on anyone.logically I would totally agree with you and think that its almost imperative they take someone in the top 3 rounds of next year's draft. But I don't know that they even care about the position that much as a whole. We will have to wait and see, obviously his(Powell) chances of hitting are around 5% right now, but worth the non-existent risk considering the potential reward.
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yanos
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Joe McKnight sounds discouraged about his move to cornerback.
Over the last two seasons, McKnight has averaged 3.21 YPC and fallen behind Bilal Powell on the depth chart. He apparently doesn't realize that he wasn't going to cut it as a running back. "The way I took it as I wasn't good enough to play running back; that's what I took it as," McKnight said. The third-year pro hasn't played cornerback in a game since high school. Sep 27 - 8:16 AM
Source: ESPN New York
looking good for Bilal
Over the last two seasons, McKnight has averaged 3.21 YPC and fallen behind Bilal Powell on the depth chart. He apparently doesn't realize that he wasn't going to cut it as a running back. "The way I took it as I wasn't good enough to play running back; that's what I took it as," McKnight said. The third-year pro hasn't played cornerback in a game since high school. Sep 27 - 8:16 AM
Source: ESPN New York
looking good for Bilal
MarcO
Footballguy
this would shock the hell out of me. I haven't see anything from Grimes that shows he is a better RB than Powell.
cstu
Footballguy
No one has seen Grimes play in a real game yet, but I'm seen Powell play and am not impressed. Yes, he's better than Greene but that's not saying much.
MarcO
Footballguy
true - not in a real NFL game but what I saw in college was a guy who could not run away from FCS players. Not saying that automatically means NFL failure but it's rare that it correlates to success.
Rushmore
Footballguy
I said this in one of the other threads, but I liked Powell coming out of college. He has good versatility running, catching, and blocking. In college he seemed to be good at making his cut and finding a seam to get down field. The offense itself could hold his upside back a bit, but I wouldn't completely write-off his talent so quickly.
Rovers
Footballguy
Greene's running style, if it can be called that, makes him an easy target for big hits, and I don't see him holding up to 15 to 20 carries a game.
Sure, Powell may not be any more than a very average RB, but at least for this year, at some point I see him replacing Greene as the "starter" whether due to injury or sub-par performance. By default he has high RB3 to low RB2 potential. I picked up Powell after week 2 thinking Ryan can't possibly keep running a woefully ineffective Greene out there game after game. Greene takes a lot of big hits. He can't elude a fire hydrant.
Ryan sometimes just doesn't start or keep his best players. He released Woodhead to keep Patrick Turner. Not exactly a brilliant personnel decision. Either way, at some point I see Powell get the majority of RB touches on this awful offense.
Sure, Powell may not be any more than a very average RB, but at least for this year, at some point I see him replacing Greene as the "starter" whether due to injury or sub-par performance. By default he has high RB3 to low RB2 potential. I picked up Powell after week 2 thinking Ryan can't possibly keep running a woefully ineffective Greene out there game after game. Greene takes a lot of big hits. He can't elude a fire hydrant.
Ryan sometimes just doesn't start or keep his best players. He released Woodhead to keep Patrick Turner. Not exactly a brilliant personnel decision. Either way, at some point I see Powell get the majority of RB touches on this awful offense.
cstu
Footballguy
Powell is not a blazer and wouldn't have been able to either. I don't think Grimes is the next coming but let's not pretend Powell has some amazing pedigree. Powell - 5-10.5, 207, 4.51 (Pro Day), 18 reps
Grimes - 5-10, 207, 4.53, 23 reps, 38" vertical, 10-5" broad, 4.03 shuttle, 6.84 3 cone (all Pro Day)
Todem
Footballguy
Powell has not looked impressive at all. Flex player at best.
If your depending on him as more than a bye week player your in big trouble.
And again...I have held on to him in several deep roster leagues and I have watched him every game this year.
He is nothing special......at all.
If your depending on him as more than a bye week player your in big trouble.
And again...I have held on to him in several deep roster leagues and I have watched him every game this year.
He is nothing special......at all.
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ponchsox
Footballguy
Agreed, if you had someone like Royster or Wilson as your RB4 he is a better stash and could come in handy down the road for bye weeks.
Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub
Footballguy
Powell looked awful last year. Then I read a piece that Powell looked quick this offseason (anyone will look quick compared to Greene)He looks...better than Shonn Greene this year. How much better than awful that is is a matter of opinion.At best, he's a bye week/flex player. I don't think he'll be impressive enough to keep even the plodding Greene off the field.Ryan & Co need to move up the "Ground and Pound" mindset, but they simply don't have the talent at RB. If you're going to stick with that, you might as well go all in with Tebow at QB.
I think perhaps Powell's speed is underrated. Now I don't think he is a blazer per se. But I don't see why he can't be speed wise what the Stephen Ridleys, BJGEs, Alfred Morris, Doug Martins etc of the world are. In fact, if the planets align, I think Powell will show similar burst to those 4 and actually have better breakaway speed.
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cstu
Footballguy
I don't think he's that bad but he hasn't been good. Maybe when he gets more carries he'll look better, we'll see.
Casting Couch
Footballguy
seems like Bilal is the #2 option behind Ivory. He looked good this pre-season, is it an abberation ?
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
@RichCimini: WR Eric Decker (knee), RB Chris Ivory (groin) didn't practice. Bowles sounds concerned about Ivory. He said it will be a game-time decision.
jwb
Footballguy
No, he's always been like that.
Powell, to me, is a workmanlike talent who is always going to be a part of an NFL backfield. He'll get you a 4.0 ypc average, catch what you throw to him, and blocks very well. There's nothing all that special about him (he's not outrunning or running over people), but he could probably put up solid RB2 numbers in PPR if given a chance (which he'll probably never quite get.)
Fever in the Funkhouse
Footballguy
Agree, his upside is capped by his talent, we've seen what he can do. So he's not a lottery ticket. But for us RB starved teams, he's worth the spot. I'll take 12 carries and 4-5 targets.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
How is the Jets situation this year much different than the Rams situation last year? No receivers, no established QB, etc. Gurley had no place to run and ended up ranked as RB19. I am not sure having no one else on offense to draw attention is a good thing.
shadyridr
Footballguy
Powell could catch 70+ balls this year & McCown is better than any of the Rams QBs
