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AcerFC
Footballguy
Couple of AQ walk questions
1. If my priority is DE (which it is), then I shouldnt expect to really accumulate too much elix right?
2. What is a good amount of DE to rake in per day. I started with 88,000 yesterday and with raids, being raided and pumps, Im at 122,803 today. Seems OK for a one day rake, Im sure the pros do it better
3. For TH11 guys, if you use a AQ walk WITHOUT DE troops, can you post your comp. Right now Im at 5 healers, 16 giants, 8 wbs, 12 wizards and the rest archers. Im not interested in using Witches or golems.
1. If my priority is DE (which it is), then I shouldnt expect to really accumulate too much elix right?
2. What is a good amount of DE to rake in per day. I started with 88,000 yesterday and with raids, being raided and pumps, Im at 122,803 today. Seems OK for a one day rake, Im sure the pros do it better
3. For TH11 guys, if you use a AQ walk WITHOUT DE troops, can you post your comp. Right now Im at 5 healers, 16 giants, 8 wbs, 12 wizards and the rest archers. Im not interested in using Witches or golems.
culdeus
Footballguy
AQ walk for maxing out DE the top priority is
Edit: your comp seems fine for lightweight DE spend. I would use 20 minions at a maximum when using loons on the front end.
- Make sure she doesn't die. If she's going to take damage that you can't overcome dump out of the raid unless you can't raid again anytime soon.
- Bears repeating. Make damn sure she doesn't die. You may need to dump out of a monster occasionally. That's ok.
- You won't accumulate much elixer, no. At the TH10 and higher TH level you will be likely dropping at least 4 elixer spells, often times 5 and 4-5 healers so the total elix spend can exceed 300k. The star bonus helps some.
- Try to net at least 4000, but really 5000 is practical per raid. At that point it's just a matter of how many raids you can make a day. Gemming spell factory is nearly mandatory if going to be raiding alot.
Edit: your comp seems fine for lightweight DE spend. I would use 20 minions at a maximum when using loons on the front end.
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AcerFC
Footballguy
Figured the gemming of spells was necessary. I have not done a raid where she survived yet. Are you constantly dropping cups or can you get the 50 plus keeping her going. She dies, I reload spells, she wakes up and I go again every two hours or so. Not sure I can get the DE and keep her alive. That seems like you have to look for very specific bases
culdeus
Footballguy
You are going to dramatically hurt your DE rate of return if letting her die. Lots of times I try to just let her walk the perimeter without ever going into the core and let the rest of the troops do the core dive for the DE. Having the queen get the DE usually would put her in danger of catching an inferno beam. Priority 1 is when hitting a base have a plan such that she will never see an inferno. Priority 2 is figure out how to funnel the rest of your troops to the DE in core. You have 30s to figure it out, if can't just next it.
If you watch the replays I posted that's nearly exactly how I would farm. Queen walks the edge, gets the aq and cc, then the rest of the drops deal with the rest of the base. It also turns you into an animal for war because you just need to get a little heavier on the core team and it's 3*.
Sounds like you need to be more selective picking targets. Only go after bases where no more than two point defenses will be targeting your queen at the same time.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Nothing wrong with AQ getting killed. Takes just as long for boosted spells to finish as it does for a boosted AQ to wake up.
culdeus
Footballguy
That is going to depend on the level of the queen. Also when spells are boosted you can get going with rages right away, you don't have to roll a full spell deck.
AcerFC
Footballguy
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
4 rages = 120 minutes / boost = 30 minutes
AQ40 = 108 minutes / boost = 27 minutes
Unless you go in really short handed (3 of 5 spells), letting her die is just fine.
When you got all of the DE.
They are nice, but if you're farming DE, you're farming DE. If the other stuff happens, great. If not, oh well.
MindCrime
Footballguy
I'm max th10, raid with aq walks.
Comp:
5 healers
18 furs
16 wiz
8 wbs
usually 7 furs and poison (for full cc) in cc
wont attack without 2 rage and a jump to get ground troops into core. Raid every 1.5 hours or so.
Sputnikv8
Footballguy
I concur. You have to take what some of these guys are doing with a grain of salt. They are (in fbgs realm) extreme raiders. Acer, you, from what I can tell, are *not* extreme. So, the amount of DE you raked in seems perfectly fine to me and in line with what I get. It is the most efficient way to get DE that I have used. I raid every couple hours from work and still profit DE. I've never had a 165K DE day or whatever Ani talked about. Heck, I don't even have 60K DE days.
If Coral asks me "How many aq-walks have you killed?", I would have to answer "just about all of them..."
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
So then why are you so adamant about not letting her die if you only need 4 raids a day?
culdeus
Footballguy
It's more efficient and takes better use of the shield system. For th9 it's a much bigger deal since they get raided alot more.
culdeus
Footballguy
I've gone multiple days without people hitting me for real. A few trophy drops here and there. The range between masters 1 and champs 3 is really pretty inactive as a rule.
AcerFC
Footballguy
culdeus
Footballguy
Champs 3 Masters 1 was the prime area for TH snipe bots to reside. Now that those people are gone the vast majority of the active players in that trophy range have pushed way down. Been an absolute loot bonanza as a result. TH9 get rekt everytime they log off but they still kill it.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
As a TH9 that has been doing it for months and is starting my last hero upgrade tonight, I vehemently disagree.
culdeus
Footballguy
Well, great. DE has never ever been easier to get than it has been since the update. There's nearly no wrong way to do it with the queen healer. I've seen 9s pull 85-100k a day no sweat. It's hard to push up into that 50-100k a day range letting her go get a tan unless you start gemming regen time and other things.
freeannyong
Footballguy
Stop this queen healer talk and just use giant goblins!!!
The Animator
Footballguy
But I like burning through great piles of money with super slow reload times with an attack that's centered around the one troop your probably grinding that DE for! I don't see the problem with that... None at all.
(shhhhh, just let them be crazy)
freeannyong
Footballguy
Maintenance is apparently fixing the Google play issues
Catching Fire!! 
Bob Loblaw
Footballguy
culdeus
Footballguy
Catching Fire!!
Well, the TH9s are getting bored. Big wars have the 9s clear with like 8 attacks to spare. The first few wars that started using this was a disaster for the 9s. The have completely forgotten how to lure and deal with CCs.
freeannyong
Footballguy
I use 20 Giants 4 wbs 16 archers rest gobs. With cc of Giants
3 heal 1 rage 1 jump. You are looking for how your gobs will path to the DE tank. Best bases are the ones that have lots of compartments so you can funnel them easily.
The Animator
Footballguy
The Animator
Footballguy
Or this...
EYLive
Footballguy
I'm going to start doing that more. But on the goblin deployment, use 2 and/or 3 finger drops to get 'em going faster.
The Animator
Footballguy
I did try this while testing, and I found more downsides than good sides... With a single file line, you hit a big bomb that the Giants didn't set off and you loose a handful, but not the end of the world... Two or three streams, hit a big bomb and you loose significantly more. I'm also looking at where the gobs are targeting during release to make sure they are heading in the direction I want them and sometimes moving the release point in minor directions to do so, which I find it hard to keep track of multiple targets for multiple streams simultaneously.
But hey, do what works for you!
Beerguzzler
Footballguy
I mean TH9 level is awful and has been out for years. No wonder people are bored. How about they upgrade their TH instead of destroying everything with 30/30 heroes.
freeannyong
Footballguy
Th9 is by far the most balanced point of the game. You are on an island saying its awful.Beerguzzler said:
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culdeus
Footballguy
No. And apparently the mods are even worse in that game. And it's not even released yet.
Missed it by *this* much.
http://s21.postimg.org/feruly3fb/IMG_0020.png
At least it was against cheaters and didn't matter.
http://s21.postimg.org/feruly3fb/IMG_0020.png
At least it was against cheaters and didn't matter.
Sputnikv8
Footballguy
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Have been trying GiGob and would love to hear if/how others are dealing with my issues...
Takes 60 minutes for Jump + Rage to cook. Are you gemming 24/7?
It's net negative on Elixir (spending ~150k and pretty much never get two storage units).
I get raided after every third attack while I wait for troops/army -- making the net negative Elixir loss worse.
Even if I gem spells I'm only attacking about twice an hour. So average DE gain is maybe 4-6k per hour (Silver I, TH9).
Am I doing it wrong, or are these just things people are willing to live with?
Takes 60 minutes for Jump + Rage to cook. Are you gemming 24/7?
It's net negative on Elixir (spending ~150k and pretty much never get two storage units).
I get raided after every third attack while I wait for troops/army -- making the net negative Elixir loss worse.
Even if I gem spells I'm only attacking about twice an hour. So average DE gain is maybe 4-6k per hour (Silver I, TH9).
Am I doing it wrong, or are these just things people are willing to live with?
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