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Official Great Works Draft (3 Viewers)
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El Floppo
Footballguy
Shoot yer picl over to me.
Postradamus
Footballguy
its about 50% picl, 100% lack of picks in two days. I have blue picks.
northern exposure
Footballguy
Yankee23Fan said:So, let me see if I have this straight.wikkid didn't like something flysack did and considered it arrogant some how. This coming from the same arrogant windbag that actually compared what he thought he went through in this thread to the Cain Mutiny, as if he and his opinions in this little exercise are actually worth something more then little ones and zeros flying through space to nowhere in particular. In between all this, we have another drafter actually losing sleep at night because he's trying to figure out how to draft the doggie style position for inventions, the smilie list for poetry, and his own schtick for novel. Then, back to the arrogant heavy weight ifight where something happened to make the arrogance get kicked up a notch like Emeril was there and threw igarlic on the ifire.Meanwhile, our commissioner has only threatened to quit 5 times, actually did quit twice, came back both times, attempted to resign, did resign, came back, tried to turn over the power to someone else, realized that it probably meant no one would then listen to anything he said and thought better of it and now is back, has promised to not quit again, will not resign and is on top of all things draft. Until the next time. And he doesn't like a certain group of p:eple that seem to have it out for him because that is the only reason why his team wouldn't make it out of the first round of voting - not the crappy craptastic picks he has made.DougB is probably sitting on a beach somewhere with a russian chick on one arm and a brazilian chick on the other, reading this thread and laughing at all of us. But then he realized that he had a russian chick on one arm and a brazilian chick on the other arm and all he could think about was reading this thread. So, that shotgun blast you just heard in the distance was DougB dropping out. I suggest we find a new drafter.Which again brings us back to the guy that came up with this idea, fora free flowing draft where ideas could be discussed and it could take a long time, who now is quitting because he doesn't like the ideas being discussed, it's taking too long, and no one seems to bow down to his surpeme intellect concerning all things in this draft, and therefore his greatness could be used elswhere. nufced. So, he's gone. We actually got a final I quit and I'm leaving post, which in usual FFA fashion will mean that he will post again within 5 days, give or take a day.And in the middle of all of this a poster that actually got married during a draft - no word yet if she actually had a laptop open while the vows were being shared - actually got her possibly real new husband to volunteer to be an actual judge in this thing which means she either held sex over his head until he did it, he isn't real, or she seriously married a
and that is a low blow coming from someone who has now been a part of all three of these frackin drafts. If I asked my wife to be a judge here, she would very calmly go get a suitcase and leave. Hey, wait a minute..............ok, back. Didn't know you could fit that much......... never mind. Ok, and here we are. Somewhere close to halfway. We've lost one drafter, who happened to be the creator. We've got a possibly real outside real world spouse coming in to be a judge. We've got one owner who is laying in a pool of blood with a russian chick and brazilian chick going through his wallet, and flysack is still here, funny as ever. Has tim quit again yet?Have I missed anything that happened in just the past 48 frackin hours? Jeesh.
No, not just good....greatposting.
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Postradamus
Footballguy
multiple partners krista? thats not safe.Thanks; sent my picl to both MisfitBlondes and El Floppo.
Uncle Humuna
Footballguy
Postradamus
Footballguy
MisfitBlondes said:I'm not sure I can compete with someone named "El Floppo." :(multiple partners krista? thats not safe.Thanks; sent my picl to both MisfitBlondes and El Floppo.
some ladies prefer plantains to bananas. chin up.
northern exposure
Footballguy
Wrong. Studs & Duds has been optioned by Showtime. HBO is so 90's. nufced.Aaron Rudnicki said:timschochet said:
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
30.14 (594th pick) - The Bronze David - Sculpture
Donato de'Bardi detto Donatello
Donatello's David (Bargello museum, Florence)
Two more angles
Detail of face
Site with numerous image links
Donato de'Bardi detto Donatello
Donatello's David (Bargello museum, Florence)
Two more angles
Detail of face
Site with numerous image links
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TidesofWar
Footballguy
Abrantes
Footballguy
The leads are weak.
30.15 Jack Lemmon, Glengarry Glen Ross (Acting Performance)
First Part of The Film
Won't take any chances now that the play has been selected. This whole film is STACKED with powerhouse performances. Although Baldwin turns in one of the greatest one-scene performances ever and Pacino is equally magnetic, my favorite part of the film is Lemmon as the meek, down-on-his-luck Shelley "The Machine" Levene, the former great trying to salvage his job and his dignity, hopefully getting a taste of his old glory days in the process. Blame can always be deflected to his boss, his leads or whatever else strikes his fancy, allowing him to live with his delusions. Pitch-perfect performance.
30.15 Jack Lemmon, Glengarry Glen Ross (Acting Performance)
First Part of The Film
Won't take any chances now that the play has been selected. This whole film is STACKED with powerhouse performances. Although Baldwin turns in one of the greatest one-scene performances ever and Pacino is equally magnetic, my favorite part of the film is Lemmon as the meek, down-on-his-luck Shelley "The Machine" Levene, the former great trying to salvage his job and his dignity, hopefully getting a taste of his old glory days in the process. Blame can always be deflected to his boss, his leads or whatever else strikes his fancy, allowing him to live with his delusions. Pitch-perfect performance.
Postradamus
Footballguy
omg I'm about to pick. yess. YES!
Postradamus
Footballguy
too late jack, she hit the road. for good.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
One of my all-time favorite movies, and probably the most oft-quoted movie in business."Will you GO to lunch!" is great schtik when someone is being a PITA.
timschochet
Footballguy
30.17 Soap (invention)
Soap is an anionic surfactant used in conjunction with water for washing and cleaning, which historically comes either in solid bars or in the form of a viscous liquid.
Soap consists of sodium or potassium salts of fatty acids and is obtained by reacting common oils or fats with a strong alkaline solution (the base, popularly referred to as lye) in a process known as saponification. The fats are hydrolyzed by the base, yielding alkali salts of fatty acids (crude soap) and glycerol.
The earliest recorded evidence of the production of soap-like materials dates back to around 2800 BC in Ancient Babylon. A formula for soap consisting of water, alkali and cassia oil was written on a Babylonian clay tablet around 2200 BC.
The Ebers papyrus (Egypt, 1550 BC) indicates that ancient Egyptians bathed regularly and combined animal and vegetable oils with alkaline salts to create a soap-like substance. Egyptian documents mention that a soap-like substance was used in the preparation of wool for weaving.
If you're curious about the necessity of this particular invention, try seeing how long you can go without it.
Soap is an anionic surfactant used in conjunction with water for washing and cleaning, which historically comes either in solid bars or in the form of a viscous liquid.
Soap consists of sodium or potassium salts of fatty acids and is obtained by reacting common oils or fats with a strong alkaline solution (the base, popularly referred to as lye) in a process known as saponification. The fats are hydrolyzed by the base, yielding alkali salts of fatty acids (crude soap) and glycerol.
The earliest recorded evidence of the production of soap-like materials dates back to around 2800 BC in Ancient Babylon. A formula for soap consisting of water, alkali and cassia oil was written on a Babylonian clay tablet around 2200 BC.
The Ebers papyrus (Egypt, 1550 BC) indicates that ancient Egyptians bathed regularly and combined animal and vegetable oils with alkaline salts to create a soap-like substance. Egyptian documents mention that a soap-like substance was used in the preparation of wool for weaving.
If you're curious about the necessity of this particular invention, try seeing how long you can go without it.
Mr. Littlejeans
Footballguy
You're a real creep.
El Floppo
Footballguy
or armadillosMisfitBlondes said:I'm not sure I can compete with someone named "El Floppo." :(multiple partners krista? thats not safe.Thanks; sent my picl to both MisfitBlondes and El Floppo.some ladies prefer plantains to bananas. chin up.
Postradamus
Footballguy
30.18 Star Wars: Episode V - THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK - Film
LUUUUUUKKKKKEEEEEE
Boom goes the dynamite
LUUUUUUKKKKKEEEEEE
Boom goes the dynamite
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Postradamus
Footballguy
i thought wikkid took CH&A
timschochet
Footballguy
I never ruled out either of those inventions. Wikkidpissah did. It was my contention, upon taking over the draft, that those inventions are perfectly acceptable, though not taken together.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
timschochet -
Page 1 correction: s/b Inalienable Rights not Inaliable
Also, we do not receive french benefits
Page 1 correction: s/b Inalienable Rights not Inaliable
Also, we do not receive french benefits
Fennis
Footballguy
great pick
flysack
Footballguy
Here’s a couple of late write-ups for picks I made for BobbyLayne.
Pick 21.07 – The Histories by Herodotus – Non-Fiction
Two of the juicer ones I recall are about the Massagtae and the Lydians –
1. The ancient Massagetae were even more waste conscious than the Eskimos. Not only did they freely share their wives with one another (just "hang up your quiver in front of her wagon and then enjoy her without misgiving"), but they also had efficient parties. When a Massagetaen deemed themselves too old to keep on living, they threw themselves a massive going-away binge. The whole family would show up and pay their respects by first killing them, then boiling them down with some cattle meat (for spice), and then top it all off by eating every last bite (leftovers were disrespectful). "This they consider to be the best sort of death."
2. In ancient Lydia, every woman came with a dowry upon marriage. However, the larger the dowry, the lesser the snugness. Apparently every "working-class girl in Lydia prostitute(d) themselves without exception to collect money for their dowries". So if a man married a gal with a hefty bag of cash, they were also guaranteed to get professional lifetime care. What a combo. Bonus for the ladies though: "They choose their own husbands."
Pick 28.14 – The Metamorphosis by Kafka – Novel
Very little of Kafka’s work was published during his lifetime. He was extraordinarily shy about his fiction, despite clearly viewing writing as the purpose of his life. Though a lawyer by profession, he choose a job that would allow him the time to write (he worked in the mornings, wrote at night, slept 3 to 6 hours depending on how the writing went, then got up and went back to work). He sought relationships, both friendly and romantic, with people that would benefit his writing. His best friend, Max Brod, became his greatest advocate and is the one responsible for publishing all his work after Kafka’s death. A great deal has been written about his various engagements with women, which he would cultivate then inexplicably end to their dismay and confusion. Why? Because he was terrified that family life would end his time for writing.
Kafka was man who lived on the borders of things. He avoided marriage, but desperately wanted a family. He was a Jew who didn’t believe in the Jewish faith. He was a Czech who wrote in German. He was a Jew who moved to Berlin (for a short time) during the rise of mass Anti-Semitism. He was a writer, but was too shy to publish anything except at the extreme insistence of his friends. The man was a genius, and like most men of genius, a complete paradox.
The Metamorphosis itself was one of the few works that was published during Kafka’s life. It was an enormous success in the Prague and Berlin literary communities, but didn’t enjoy international acclaim until after Kafka’s death. The work starts with a very simple, yet utterly fantastic premise:
“One morning, as Gregor Samsa was waking up from anxious dreams, he discovered that in his bed he had been changed into a monstrous insect.”
WAT?
The point isn’t that Gregor is an insect. This is a device used to explore how a fantastic element would disrupt our boring everyday lives. For example, Kafka spends a good deal of time narrating the effects of Gregor not being able to go to work. He loses his job. He is blamed for his family’s woes when they suffer the lost income. People begin to hate him. His father abuses him, throws things at him, etc. Kafka’s method here is to take one ridiculous instance, then proceed to rationally work it through a completely realistic world, point by point, piece by piece, to show that, in effect, there is no room for the fantastic in our boring modern lives.
No writer before Kafka had done something like this; The Metamorphosis is truly a narrative leap; it pushed writers in new directions they'd never dreamed of before, and as such is a legitimate work of genius.
Its success also encouraged the shy Kafka to continue this style of writing, which led to him to create the masterpieces published after his death, such as The Trial. Here again Kafka used the method he invented in The Metamorphosis to even greater effect – he introduced an absurd element into an otherwise completely realistic and rational world (a man put on trial without a stated charge), and logically plays it out to the protagonist’s misery.
It all began with The Metamorphosis. The book changed forever what people thought could be done with narrative. It invited later authors to introduce absurdities into their own stories for symbolic or critical reasons. Simply put: The Metamorphosis opened up the realms of narrative possibility.
Pick 21.07 – The Histories by Herodotus – Non-Fiction
The importance of this “great work” is that it basically founded the historical method in Western culture. It is the first consciously recorded history. Secondly, it’s a delight to read. Like the very best historians, Herodotus was a master storyteller and didn’t shy away from the juicer customs he came across.
Two of the juicer ones I recall are about the Massagtae and the Lydians –
1. The ancient Massagetae were even more waste conscious than the Eskimos. Not only did they freely share their wives with one another (just "hang up your quiver in front of her wagon and then enjoy her without misgiving"), but they also had efficient parties. When a Massagetaen deemed themselves too old to keep on living, they threw themselves a massive going-away binge. The whole family would show up and pay their respects by first killing them, then boiling them down with some cattle meat (for spice), and then top it all off by eating every last bite (leftovers were disrespectful). "This they consider to be the best sort of death."
2. In ancient Lydia, every woman came with a dowry upon marriage. However, the larger the dowry, the lesser the snugness. Apparently every "working-class girl in Lydia prostitute(d) themselves without exception to collect money for their dowries". So if a man married a gal with a hefty bag of cash, they were also guaranteed to get professional lifetime care. What a combo. Bonus for the ladies though: "They choose their own husbands."
Pick 28.14 – The Metamorphosis by Kafka – Novel
Very little of Kafka’s work was published during his lifetime. He was extraordinarily shy about his fiction, despite clearly viewing writing as the purpose of his life. Though a lawyer by profession, he choose a job that would allow him the time to write (he worked in the mornings, wrote at night, slept 3 to 6 hours depending on how the writing went, then got up and went back to work). He sought relationships, both friendly and romantic, with people that would benefit his writing. His best friend, Max Brod, became his greatest advocate and is the one responsible for publishing all his work after Kafka’s death. A great deal has been written about his various engagements with women, which he would cultivate then inexplicably end to their dismay and confusion. Why? Because he was terrified that family life would end his time for writing.
Kafka was man who lived on the borders of things. He avoided marriage, but desperately wanted a family. He was a Jew who didn’t believe in the Jewish faith. He was a Czech who wrote in German. He was a Jew who moved to Berlin (for a short time) during the rise of mass Anti-Semitism. He was a writer, but was too shy to publish anything except at the extreme insistence of his friends. The man was a genius, and like most men of genius, a complete paradox.
The Metamorphosis itself was one of the few works that was published during Kafka’s life. It was an enormous success in the Prague and Berlin literary communities, but didn’t enjoy international acclaim until after Kafka’s death. The work starts with a very simple, yet utterly fantastic premise:
“One morning, as Gregor Samsa was waking up from anxious dreams, he discovered that in his bed he had been changed into a monstrous insect.”
WAT?
The point isn’t that Gregor is an insect. This is a device used to explore how a fantastic element would disrupt our boring everyday lives. For example, Kafka spends a good deal of time narrating the effects of Gregor not being able to go to work. He loses his job. He is blamed for his family’s woes when they suffer the lost income. People begin to hate him. His father abuses him, throws things at him, etc. Kafka’s method here is to take one ridiculous instance, then proceed to rationally work it through a completely realistic world, point by point, piece by piece, to show that, in effect, there is no room for the fantastic in our boring modern lives.
No writer before Kafka had done something like this; The Metamorphosis is truly a narrative leap; it pushed writers in new directions they'd never dreamed of before, and as such is a legitimate work of genius.
Its success also encouraged the shy Kafka to continue this style of writing, which led to him to create the masterpieces published after his death, such as The Trial. Here again Kafka used the method he invented in The Metamorphosis to even greater effect – he introduced an absurd element into an otherwise completely realistic and rational world (a man put on trial without a stated charge), and logically plays it out to the protagonist’s misery.
It all began with The Metamorphosis. The book changed forever what people thought could be done with narrative. It invited later authors to introduce absurdities into their own stories for symbolic or critical reasons. Simply put: The Metamorphosis opened up the realms of narrative possibility.
timschochet
Footballguy
Never liked The Empire Strikes Back as much as the original Star Wars. I realize many people like it more.
flysack
Footballguy
This is all a rather mute point, don't you think?
TidesofWar
Footballguy
I think you are subverting my attempted theme - this, along with To Kill a Mockingbird, have you taken from me, without remorse
krista4
Footballguy
Strongly considered this. No doubt that Lemmon's performance is the standout of the movie.
rodg12
Footballguy
Sorry, GB. Just taking things I personally like and these two are right at the top of the things I most enjoy.
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krista4
Footballguy
I have to go ahead and take my favorite movie here; leaving it on the board is too risky considering some of the great movie picks that have been made.
30.20 Au Hasard Balthazar - directed by Robert Bresson (movie)
It seems like a few of Bresson's other excellent films (which I won't name to avoid spotlighting) are more well-known, though this one is considered his masterpiece. It is currently ranked #19 on Sight & Sound's every-decade critics' poll of the best movies in history, and yet few non-movie-critics seem to have seen it.
I think it might be that, until a few years ago, no good print of the movie was available. But in 2005, a new restored print was released in art-house theatres and later on a Criterion Collection DVD. I was lucky enough to see it at Music Box Theatre, my favorite Chicago theatre, on a huge screen. I've never been so profoundly moved by a movie on first viewing. From the first moment, when you simply hear the sound of a donkey braying, to the last scene (which I won't describe so as not to spoil it), I was transfixed, and when the movie was over, I was exhausted and felt like I was taking my first breath in 90 minutes.
Jean-Luc Godard said about this movie: "Everyone who sees this film will be absolutely astonished...because this film is really the world in an hour and a half."
It's hard to find a review of this that doesn't contain too many spoilers, so I'll post this and look around some more for one that's safe.
30.20 Au Hasard Balthazar - directed by Robert Bresson (movie)
It seems like a few of Bresson's other excellent films (which I won't name to avoid spotlighting) are more well-known, though this one is considered his masterpiece. It is currently ranked #19 on Sight & Sound's every-decade critics' poll of the best movies in history, and yet few non-movie-critics seem to have seen it.
I think it might be that, until a few years ago, no good print of the movie was available. But in 2005, a new restored print was released in art-house theatres and later on a Criterion Collection DVD. I was lucky enough to see it at Music Box Theatre, my favorite Chicago theatre, on a huge screen. I've never been so profoundly moved by a movie on first viewing. From the first moment, when you simply hear the sound of a donkey braying, to the last scene (which I won't describe so as not to spoil it), I was transfixed, and when the movie was over, I was exhausted and felt like I was taking my first breath in 90 minutes.
Jean-Luc Godard said about this movie: "Everyone who sees this film will be absolutely astonished...because this film is really the world in an hour and a half."
It's hard to find a review of this that doesn't contain too many spoilers, so I'll post this and look around some more for one that's safe.
Abrantes
Footballguy
For the record, I did almost take it just to spite you. Also, it is indeed a phenomenal movie.
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Abrantes
Footballguy
Good lord. Terminator Salvation is seriously only 1% better than Paul Blart: Mall Cop on Rotten Tomatoes? Brutal.
krista4
Footballguy
MisfitBlondes said:Damn, I did too.For the record, I did almost take it just to spite you. Also, it is indeed a phenomenal movie.
Fennis
Footballguy
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krista4
Footballguy
TidesofWar
Footballguy
Hippy anthem
rodg12
Footballguy
31.01 - Back in Black - AC/DC - Album
The second best selling album of all time. The best selling album ever by a group. Three of the greatest hard rock songs of all time.
1. "Hells Bells" – 5:12
2. "Shoot to Thrill" – 5:17
3. "What Do You Do for Money Honey" – 3:36
4. "Givin the Dog a Bone" – 3:32
5. "Let Me Put My Love into You" – 4:15
6. "Back in Black" – 4:16
7. "You Shook Me All Night Long" – 3:30
8. "Have a Drink on Me" – 3:58
9. "Shake a Leg" – 4:06
10. "Rock and Roll Ain't Noise Pollution" – 4:26
Wiki
Postradamus
Footballguy
31.03 BEER - invention
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timschochet
Footballguy
Soap is more important than beer.
Well, maybe not...
Well, maybe not...
krista4
Footballguy
If you have enough beer, you don't really miss having soap. No matter how much soap you have, you'd always miss beer.
timschochet
Footballguy
30.04 Pi (Scientific Discovery)
Pi or π is a mathematical constant whose value is the ratio of any circle's circumference to its diameter in Euclidean space; this is the same value as the ratio of a circle's area to the square of its radius. It is approximately equal to 3.14159 in the usual decimal notation (see the table for its representation in some other bases). π is one of the most important mathematical and physical constants: many formulae from mathematics, science, and engineering involve π.
π is an irrational number, which means that its value cannot be expressed exactly as a fraction m/n, where m and n are integers. Consequently, its decimal representation never ends or repeats. It is also a transcendental number, which means that no finite sequence of algebraic operations on integers (powers, roots, sums, etc.) can be equal to its value; proving this was a late achievement in mathematical history and a significant result of 19th century German mathematics. Throughout the history of mathematics, there has been much effort to determine π more accurately and to understand its nature; fascination with the number has even carried over into non-mathematical culture.
The Greek letter π, often spelled out pi in text, was adopted for the number from the Greek word for perimeter "περίμετρος", first by William Jones in 1707, and popularized by Leonhard Euler in 1737.The constant is occasionally also referred to as the circular constant, Archimedes' constant (not to be confused with an Archimedes number), or Ludolph's number (from a German mathematician whose efforts to calculate more of its digits became famous).
Pi or π is a mathematical constant whose value is the ratio of any circle's circumference to its diameter in Euclidean space; this is the same value as the ratio of a circle's area to the square of its radius. It is approximately equal to 3.14159 in the usual decimal notation (see the table for its representation in some other bases). π is one of the most important mathematical and physical constants: many formulae from mathematics, science, and engineering involve π.
π is an irrational number, which means that its value cannot be expressed exactly as a fraction m/n, where m and n are integers. Consequently, its decimal representation never ends or repeats. It is also a transcendental number, which means that no finite sequence of algebraic operations on integers (powers, roots, sums, etc.) can be equal to its value; proving this was a late achievement in mathematical history and a significant result of 19th century German mathematics. Throughout the history of mathematics, there has been much effort to determine π more accurately and to understand its nature; fascination with the number has even carried over into non-mathematical culture.
The Greek letter π, often spelled out pi in text, was adopted for the number from the Greek word for perimeter "περίμετρος", first by William Jones in 1707, and popularized by Leonhard Euler in 1737.The constant is occasionally also referred to as the circular constant, Archimedes' constant (not to be confused with an Archimedes number), or Ludolph's number (from a German mathematician whose efforts to calculate more of its digits became famous).
krista4
Footballguy
Ah, beer. The cause of and the solution to all of life's problems.31.03 BEER - invention
