Wingnut
Footballguy
I'd be cool with that.
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QB Brock Purdy, SF (1 Viewer)
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Wingnut
Footballguy
If one chart can end every Brock Purdy debate, it’s this one.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Impressive. It’s not independent of the playmaking talent around him - thus to me it doesn’t end every debate - but regardless his placement on the chart is eye popping.
“Something something CMC grumble grumble something DeeBo grumble grumble overrated grumble he wouldn’t do that on the Panthers grumble grumble something game manager”
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
limited arm imo
I forgot that one.
Kuz
Footballguy
That is very impressive. Niners are going to be a heck of a tough out this year in the Playoffs...
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
True for every HOFer…
Tau837
Footballguy
Beat you to it.
Pietaster2
Footballguy
Anybody with good bench options considering pivoting away from our favorite MVP runner up to be in Week 17?
We're not getting Trent Williams back in time for the great matchup against Washington, and we saw how Purdy played without Trent a few weeks ago. How replaceable is Guard Jaylon Moore, if he doesn't clear concussion protocol? Will Brock be sat in the third quarter if SF is blowing out the Commies, due to the same "concerns" the coaching staff had when they benched him the other day for his second shoulder stinger in as many weeks, and the OLine injuries? I think I've just talked myself into starting Justin Fields in my fantasy finals.
We're not getting Trent Williams back in time for the great matchup against Washington, and we saw how Purdy played without Trent a few weeks ago. How replaceable is Guard Jaylon Moore, if he doesn't clear concussion protocol? Will Brock be sat in the third quarter if SF is blowing out the Commies, due to the same "concerns" the coaching staff had when they benched him the other day for his second shoulder stinger in as many weeks, and the OLine injuries? I think I've just talked myself into starting Justin Fields in my fantasy finals.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Link? No injury news has been released yet
Pietaster2
Footballguy
Just my own speculation, but it seems obvious to many that he’ll miss week 17 at least.
You know how these groin injuries can go.
FWIW I’d be inclined to start Purdy if Trent is playing.
Wingnut
Footballguy
So no word on Trent Williams from any reliable source yet. Kyle Shanahan will give an update at 4:30 PST today.
I’d have to have some mighty good options to pivot to. Can’t get a better matchup.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Trent Williams will be limited in practice, which means he was able to avoid serious injury
babydemon90
Footballguy
For the few Purdy owners that survived last week, anyway....
Or those of us in leagues that pay out for 3rd place
fatness
Footballguy
I'd start every SF offensive player against Washington.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Post in thread 'What Christmas Miracle do you need on MNF tripleheader?'
https://forums.footballguys.com/thr...need-on-mnf-tripleheader.811622/post-24788609
Thank you Justin Tucker!!
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Starting him. Even dropped Love in the process.
dmac37
Footballguy
Starting Purdy with confidence. I honestly think last week is a good thing for Purdy and fantasy this week. Shanny is going to want to right the Purdy ship this week and what a great defense to do it against. Gamblers and fantasy managers tend to react too much on what happened the previous week. I also react but more on the up/ down theory vs holding a grudge on what happened the previous week.
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
Agreed. I laughed at FBG giving Purdy a downgrade. What the hell does that mean? One bad game and he’s downgraded? How does that make any sense?
Tau837
Footballguy
I don't even bother reading the upgrade/downgrade emails. They have been useless from the point they started IMO.
Pietaster2
Footballguy
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Wingnut
Footballguy
Brock Purdy completed 63.8% of his deep passes this year, by far the highest percentage on NFL record (PFF has tracked this for about 20 years)
He also posted the best intermediate-passing efficiency season ever recorded by PFF... 13.3 yards per attempt on throws of 10-19 yards
He also posted the best intermediate-passing efficiency season ever recorded by PFF... 13.3 yards per attempt on throws of 10-19 yards
Accuracy, hitting receivers in stride, and multiple receivers with YAC ability, all coming together.
Brock was drafted 19th QB in my league this year. I think he'll be top 6 next year, 6pts per passing TD. After Allen, Mahomes, Jackson, Hurts. In the conversation with Dak, Goff. Maybe Love, Stroud, Goff.
jm192
Footballguy
I did some ROUGH draft rankings yesterday. I put him at 6 just behind Stroud. Dak at 7.
After that it gets really tough to separate guys. You can make arguments for SEVERAL guys anywhere from 8-16.
I think next year is definitely a "grab the value QB" year. Which, most years are. This year it felt like there were 5 or 6 guys ahead of the rest of the bunch, and then that didn't really pan out that way.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Brock Purdy’s first full regular season as a starter for the 49ers is in the books:
308 for 444 (69.4% completion rate)
4,280 passing yards (franchise record)
31 TD passes (7% TD rate)
11 INTs (2.5% INT rate)
113.0 QB rating
72.7 QBR
NFL Leader in Pro Bowl votes (451,864)
12-4 record
NFC West Champions
NFC #1 seed
Incredible for the former last pick in the NFL Draft
308 for 444 (69.4% completion rate)
4,280 passing yards (franchise record)
31 TD passes (7% TD rate)
11 INTs (2.5% INT rate)
113.0 QB rating
72.7 QBR
NFL Leader in Pro Bowl votes (451,864)
12-4 record
NFC West Champions
NFC #1 seed
Incredible for the former last pick in the NFL Draft
pinkstapler
Footballguy
When a lot of the narratives and nuance wears off, think like 5-10 years from now, I think people will look back at his numbers and wonder how he DIDN'T win MVP. I get arguments on both sides here in the moment, but I really think it's going to look like a strange decision in hindsight. Especially if they go on to win the SB.
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
I've argued for him to win and still think he's the MVP (given the assumption that it has to go to a QB), but the fact is that on national television, two weeks before the end of the season, in a heads up matchup against the other leading MVP candidate, he had the worst game of his (young) career. That's why he lost it, and the decision will only look strange if we eventually forget about that and just look at the numbers.
FairWarning
Footballguy
Problem is the MVP is announced before the SB. Probably a interesting thread of MVP’s vs who should have won it.
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
That would be interesting. I wonder how often there would be situations like this where just going by the numbers someone looks deserving, but we'd be ignoring some important context that mattered to voters at the time.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Brock Purdy talks about the trust Kyle Shanahan has in him:
“I try to run the system to a T with the little details… but if something’s off-schedule, he’s been an advocate of me being myself & making plays. He doesn’t try to handcuff me & say 'if it’s not there throw it away immediately', he understands that I can make plays & there’s a time to take shots & take the opportunity to make a big play & there’s a time to throw the ball away & be smart with it…
It’s cool to have a coach who teaches you the scheme, but also doesn’t handcuff you & allows you to be yourself.”
“I try to run the system to a T with the little details… but if something’s off-schedule, he’s been an advocate of me being myself & making plays. He doesn’t try to handcuff me & say 'if it’s not there throw it away immediately', he understands that I can make plays & there’s a time to take shots & take the opportunity to make a big play & there’s a time to throw the ball away & be smart with it…
It’s cool to have a coach who teaches you the scheme, but also doesn’t handcuff you & allows you to be yourself.”
Spin
Footballguy
Considering she was the Raiders CEO when they drafted Jamarcus Russell... Not sure how much value I put in her opinion of qbs.
Plus a large percentage of Raider fans hate everything 49er related, so that's part of it too. If Purdy was on their team, a different tune would be sung, 100 percent.
Would SF trade Purdy straight up for Baker or Goff? No. Love? Probably not. The 4 AFC QBs, almost definitely if you take salary out of it.
Purdy is young and is still absorbing the overall NFL game. Contrary to people who say he will come back to earth, I think he only gets better with experience.
Well, to be fair, they all have. Mahomes had 14 picks. Allen 17. Goff and Allen crapped the bed several games. Stroud and Lamar have been the least turnover prone.
This is part of why I think the Ravens game was actually a good thing for Purdy. Made a mistake with a pick early and then tried to play hero ball the rest of the game. Mistakes happen but limit them.
