VikingFrog
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Riding Philly to the promised land.
Holy format nice work!WHICH OFFENSES SHOULD WE TARGET WHEN STREAMING DT/DST?
Most FF Points Allowed to DEF (standard base scoring):
1. Jacksonville Jaguars vs. DEF
2. Tennessee Titans vs. DEF
3. Cleveland Browns vs. DEF
4. San Diego Chargers vs. DEF
5. Detroit Lions vs. DEF
6. Dallas Cowboys vs. DEF
7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers vs. DEF
8. Denver Broncos vs. DEF
9. Seattle Seahawks vs. DEF
10. Miami Dolphins vs. DEF
11. Buffalo Bills vs. DEF
12. Houston Texans vs. DEF
13. San Francisco 49ers vs. DEF
14. New Orleans Saints vs. DEF
15. Washington Redskins vs. DEF
16. Kansas City Chiefs vs. DEF
17. Indianapolis Colts vs. DEF
18. Chicago Bears vs. DEF
19. Philadelphia Eagles vs. DEF
20. St. Louis Rams vs. DEF
21. Baltimore Ravens vs. DEF
22. Oakland Raiders vs. DEF
23. Minnesota Vikings vs. DEF
24. Atlanta Falcons vs. DEF
25. Pittsburgh Steelers vs. DEF
26. Arizona Cardinals vs. DEF
27. Cincinnati Bengals vs. DEF
28. Carolina Panthers vs. DEF
29. New England Patriots vs. DEF
30. Green Bay Packers vs. DEF
31. New York Jets vs. DEF
32. New York Giants vs. DEF
FF Points Allowed to DST (enhanced scoring plus return yardage):
Average Per Game
Pts Tackles Turnovers Blk 4th Dwn Yards 3 & Return FF Pts
Rk Team Vs. Sack Safe TFL Int Fum TD Kick Stops Allow Outs Yds TD Against
1. Ten 19.1 3.5 0.0 5.3 1.0 1.1 0.3 0.0 0.4 331.5 2.8 75.0 0.1 16.56
2. SF 14.0 3.1 0.2 5.9 0.8 0.2 0.2 0.1 0.4 286.2 2.6 51.4 0.0 16.11
3. CLE 19.0 3.3 0.0 6.1 0.6 1.3 0.2 0.0 0.7 335.1 3.2 84.1 0.0 15.60
4. JAX 19.8 3.1 0.0 4.5 1.3 0.5 0.5 0.0 0.4 354.4 3.1 80.9 0.0 15.56
5. CHI 20.3 1.8 0.0 3.8 0.8 0.5 0.4 0.1 0.4 347.1 2.4 95.8 0.4 14.92
6. DET 16.9 2.8 0.0 4.8 1.5 1.0 0.0 0.1 0.6 337.8 2.5 75.3 0.0 14.19
7. SEA 19.4 3.9 0.0 5.6 0.8 0.5 0.1 0.1 0.1 353.1 2.4 74.5 0.1 13.71
8. DAL 20.0 2.1 0.0 4.3 1.0 0.6 0.4 0.0 0.5 354.1 2.4 45.8 0.1 13.54
9. STL 18.1 1.5 0.0 4.9 0.6 0.6 0.3 0.3 0.4 312.6 3.4 60.5 0.1 13.49
10. HOU 21.0 2.1 0.0 4.5 0.9 0.5 0.4 0.0 1.0 369.4 3.0 92.5 0.0 12.98
11. WAS 19.8 1.1 0.1 3.1 1.1 0.6 0.3 0.1 0.5 329.0 2.9 45.3 0.1 12.37
12. MIA 19.9 2.9 0.3 4.8 1.1 0.4 0.1 0.0 1.3 357.9 2.3 63.8 0.0 12.21
13. BUF 24.4 2.9 0.0 6.5 0.9 0.5 0.3 0.0 0.5 350.5 3.1 69.1 0.0 11.95
14. SD 22.7 2.3 0.0 4.8 0.8 0.8 0.3 0.1 0.4 413.9 2.0 94.4 0.0 11.86
15. DEN 20.8 1.6 0.0 4.1 1.6 0.1 0.4 0.0 0.1 345.5 2.4 53.1 0.0 11.66
16. KC 22.9 3.6 0.0 6.1 0.4 0.6 0.1 0.1 0.3 345.4 2.8 68.1 0.0 11.64
17. TB 21.1 1.8 0.0 3.9 0.9 0.9 0.4 0.0 0.4 357.3 1.3 54.5 0.0 11.18
18. NYJ 25.0 1.1 0.0 4.0 1.0 0.5 0.1 0.1 0.4 365.9 3.1 112.9 0.1 10.95
19. IND 20.9 2.0 0.0 3.2 1.3 0.8 0.0 0.1 0.3 353.7 3.1 33.0 0.1 10.91
20. PHI 22.6 1.8 0.0 4.9 1.3 0.6 0.1 0.1 0.5 366.4 2.8 70.8 0.0 10.76
21. MIN 20.3 2.6 0.1 6.9 0.8 0.4 0.0 0.0 0.4 321.6 1.6 53.4 0.0 10.35
22. CAR 27.0 1.6 0.0 4.3 1.1 0.4 0.0 0.3 0.1 358.9 3.0 90.1 0.1 9.74
23. BAL 22.3 1.8 0.0 5.3 1.0 0.4 0.1 0.0 0.5 357.3 2.4 25.3 0.0 9.63
24. PIT 22.2 2.4 0.0 5.7 1.0 0.2 0.0 0.0 0.4 376.7 2.3 71.3 0.0 9.57
25. NO 26.8 2.4 0.0 4.4 0.9 0.8 0.1 0.2 0.1 421.7 2.0 75.9 0.0 9.41
26. ATL 23.4 1.9 0.0 3.7 0.8 0.8 0.1 0.1 0.4 402.2 2.3 58.8 0.0 8.93
27. GB 24.6 2.4 0.1 4.4 0.4 0.4 0.0 0.0 0.4 340.9 3.0 63.6 0.0 8.62
28. NYG 24.6 1.3 0.0 4.3 0.7 0.3 0.1 0.0 0.3 349.7 2.1 78.4 0.1 8.49
29. OAK 26.6 1.3 0.0 2.8 0.6 1.0 0.1 0.1 0.3 374.6 2.4 50.9 0.0 7.89
30. CIN 28.6 1.4 0.0 4.0 0.5 0.5 0.3 0.4 0.1 391.1 1.4 64.3 0.0 7.60
31. ARI 30.4 1.4 0.0 4.1 0.8 1.0 0.0 0.1 0.3 417.4 1.5 83.1 0.0 7.19
32. NE 34.3 2.3 0.0 2.9 0.3 0.4 0.1 0.0 0.4 420.3 1.4 48.0 0.0 4.37
Me too, assuming that by "promised land", you mean the NE matchup.Riding Philly to the promised land.
Especially if your league doesn't penalize your D when the opposing DST scores a TD. With Carpenter's missed XP, that fumble return didn't cost me anything.I have Jets tonight vs Buff. So far so good.
Didn't end up too good at all.Especially if your league doesn't penalize your D when the opposing DST scores a TD. With Carpenter's missed XP, that fumble return didn't cost me anything.I have Jets tonight vs Buff. So far so good.
Got 13 but yea average.Didn't end up too good at all.Especially if your league doesn't penalize your D when the opposing DST scores a TD. With Carpenter's missed XP, that fumble return didn't cost me anything.I have Jets tonight vs Buff. So far so good.
So far, unless Pitt has a great game this week, the Bills were the way to go. 6 and 15 so far compared to 3 and ? for Pitt. Oh well, I lost last week due to other bad decisions (leaving Jordan Matthews and Luck on the bench).It is a tough call and it may be my Bills bias acting up, probably if you threw out anyone else I'd agree lol., you could probably just play SEA week 11 and 13-16 and be just fine.Ugh, c'mon, I wanted to feel good about a decision!Actually I think in your case Buf/Sea is a better combo, especially after the Steelers bye they have a few tougher matchups that make them less appealing.I think you guys may have convinced me. You still think Pittsburgh vs Oakland and then Cleveland is better than Buffalo vs Miami and then @ Jets? I only have 6 transactions left, so whichever way I go, I am stuck with them and Seattle. I think I had lined up Pittsburgh a few weeks ago as a potential match with Seattle for the rest of the year. So hard to do streaming with limited transactions.I like the way you think!The Steelers D has been way better than expected this season. Last week the Jets flew to the west coast after the NE loss AND lost their QB very early in the game. Sort of a perfect storm for OAK in that game. This week OAK travels to the east coast and plays PIT coming off a game they played terribly on offense but the D was stout. Send like a potential let down for OAK and a bounce back performance by PIT - I may have just talked myself into playing them this week. Plus PIT plays CLE at home next week so it may be a preemptive move to get them now.
Seattle is a must start week 11, 15 and 16. I think they are OK 13 and 14 and not good 9, 10 and 12 (Roethlisberger should be in game shape by then).
Pittsburgh looks great 10 and 12 and good 13. 14, 15 and 16 aren't bad. 9 is interesting since it is Oakland on the East Coast and Ben should be in better game shape.
Bills look good week 9 (Miami will be rested, so this could be tougher) and 12/13. Week 11 is awful and I think 16 won't be as good as it seems since Dallas should be healthy. Week 10, 14 and 15 are tough to call. No idea if Fitz will be OK, Jackson should be healthy so at Washington may be tough and Philly, who knows.
If I think week 9 might be better with Pittsburgh, then I'd have to go with them. Honestly, the Bills haven't been very good this year on D. 2 good games, 2 decent games and 3 bad games. When they played good Os, they were terrible. Good against Miami when they looked awful and Tennessee, who stinks. Even the Jaguars was only decent due to the TD. Pittsburgh had 2 bad weeks against KC without Ben and NE. 4 good weeks and 2 decent.
Yep, going Pitt and feeling OK about it.
Like many here, I've started the Packers the last two weeks with disastrous results. Have they gotten any healthier? Surely they can rebound at home against the mailing-it-in Lions? Panthers are somehow available in my league... Is Carolina a clearly better alternative this week?Pack defenders were dropping like flies in that Carolina game. I'd be wary even against Detroit.Same here. And every week they are projected to have the most points on the WW. Case in point, this week they are projected to have 9. Next largest projection is the Steelers with 8.I went GB last 2 weeks
-4 each week in my league. Lost this week by 5.
Sucks as they were highly regarded.
Now on the wire is slim pickings
On Fantasy Pros, the Packers are projected to be the 7th best defense ROS. Steelers are 21st, yet they have no negative point games... the Pack has 3 in a row.
Yet I'm still contemplating rolling them out vs Detroit.
Will be trying for Bills or Vikings this week, dropping James White.If you have the Broncos you may as well just step out of this thread until they play NE or just step out for the rest of the year.Bengals are on my WW. They're one of those better IRL DSTs, but pretty cream puff schedule down the stretch. Tempting.
I'm rolling Broncos every week until I see evidence I shouldn't.
Denver also had no Talib or WareI mentioned this a while back but I think people still view starting a defense against Peyton counterintuitive, but in fact it's been a good play. Yesterday the Chiefs D was a great play. Coming into the game Denver was the no. 12 most FFPA to defenses, that will only go up after this week.
What really aggravates me is that Manning's performance yesterday killed the Denver DST, when a QB plays that badly it kills any chance for a defense to perform in FF.
Perfect #### stormDenver also had no Talib or WareI mentioned this a while back but I think people still view starting a defense against Peyton counterintuitive, but in fact it's been a good play. Yesterday the Chiefs D was a great play. Coming into the game Denver was the no. 12 most FFPA to defenses, that will only go up after this week.
What really aggravates me is that Manning's performance yesterday killed the Denver DST, when a QB plays that badly it kills any chance for a defense to perform in FF.
Moot point now. Manning likely done with torn plantar fasciaPerfect #### stormDenver also had no Talib or WareI mentioned this a while back but I think people still view starting a defense against Peyton counterintuitive, but in fact it's been a good play. Yesterday the Chiefs D was a great play. Coming into the game Denver was the no. 12 most FFPA to defenses, that will only go up after this week.
What really aggravates me is that Manning's performance yesterday killed the Denver DST, when a QB plays that badly it kills any chance for a defense to perform in FF.
Mariota has been very up and down, and they're struggling to establish the run. I like JAX at home. Plus, Bold Gold night.Week 11 vs. TennesseeTennessee has given up the most fantasy points to Team Defenses this season.
I admit that I am too lazy to look. Maybe you know off the top of your head. Are Talib and Ware back?Denver also had no Talib or WareI mentioned this a while back but I think people still view starting a defense against Peyton counterintuitive, but in fact it's been a good play. Yesterday the Chiefs D was a great play. Coming into the game Denver was the no. 12 most FFPA to defenses, that will only go up after this week.
What really aggravates me is that Manning's performance yesterday killed the Denver DST, when a QB plays that badly it kills any chance for a defense to perform in FF.
I picked up KC. They had some injuries to their secondary early in the season. I don't mind their schedule going forward eitherDo we expect KC to keep rolling?
I picked up KC. They had some injuries to their secondary early in the season. I don't mind their schedule going forward eitherDo we expect KC to keep rolling?
I picked up KC as well. San Diego does scare me a bit, but they've been pretty good for opposing defenses.Going Jags and Bucs in my two leagues. KC scares me against SD @ home for some reason.
That's interesting. Didn't notice their playoff schedule. Anyone else feel SD could be a dumpster fire with their injury bug? Rivers is a solid QB but who the hell is he throwing to? Even Gates is hobbled.Agreed on KC I was all ready to pick this up then realized they were playing SD, I have Rivers/Woodhead so can't have my cake both ways. Pass. Keep in mind KC plays SD WK11 & WK14.
Mine too but aren't TOs more valuable? A couple picks and potential for a Def TD means nearly 10 pts.With Rivers throwing 40-50 times, there will be yards there. In my leagues, once you get to 300 yards, you pretty much lose all points sans TOs.
I guess this changes things. Our league doesn't do ydg against, so I'm in the boat that the Chargers have Stevie Johnson and 2 WRs who were not even the 3rd string. I think KC linebackers can play Gates similar to what Chicago did and have the speed to handle Woodhead.With Rivers throwing 40-50 times, there will be yards there. In my leagues, once you get to 300 yards, you pretty much lose all points sans TOs.
Chargers are tops in yardage, but 15th in points scored.chad in Indy said:I guess this changes things. Our league doesn't do ydg against, so I'm in the boat that the Chargers have Stevie Johnson and 2 WRs who were not even the 3rd string. I think KC linebackers can play Gates similar to what Chicago did and have the speed to handle Woodhead.oddsbodkins said:With Rivers throwing 40-50 times, there will be yards there. In my leagues, once you get to 300 yards, you pretty much lose all points sans TOs.
Then you should at least hold Packers right. To make the Bears chances better.Picked back up Atlanta and also Chicago. Dropped Packers. I can't get anything right
Eagles will be fine. Just avoid the NE and possibly AZ game.Staying with the Eagles but not confident at all.
Which RB are you talking about?Wow...I also picked up KC for the week. Seems like we're all on the same wavelength.
Chargers with no one left to throw to, a shaky OL, and a plodding RB. Recipe for low score and high turnover opportunities.
Riding Bears D to the championship brohan!Then you should at least hold Packers right. To make the Bears chances better.Picked back up Atlanta and also Chicago. Dropped Packers. I can't get anything right
That would be 46 ypg Melvin Gordon. Woodhead may as well just line up at WR, given how depleted they are at that position.Which RB are you talking about?Wow...I also picked up KC for the week. Seems like we're all on the same wavelength.
Chargers with no one left to throw to, a shaky OL, and a plodding RB. Recipe for low score and high turnover opportunities.
They have some solid matchups before then too. Hmmm. Don't want to carry multiple defenses so I may yet switch to the Chiefs...KC plays at home against Johnny Football in week 16 - I'm holding even though I agree the SD match ups are a concern.