Dinsy Ejotuz
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roadkill1292
Footballguy
roadkill1292
Footballguy
Sebowski
Footballguy
The Gator
Footballguy
shader
Footballguy
Rodgers better get that settled fast. I'm already sick of Jordan Henderson. He thinks just because he's the captain like Gerrard that he needs to take the free kicks and penalties. Henderson: You are not good at corners or free kicks. Balo has a million faults, but his free kicks and penalty kicks are not one among his faults. He's world-class at that.
shader
Footballguy
Seriously, what is he doing? Throwing gas on the fire???
Question for long-term soccer fans. What typically is the rule for penalty kicks? Why don't they just look at the head coach? Is there a sheet? Is it the captain's call?
The Gator
Footballguy
Take it easy on Hendo...he still did the right thing and congratulated Bolo afterwards.
shader
Footballguy
The Gator
Footballguy
I've never played at the higher levels like a few here, but always thought the manager set the pk taker when he sets his line-up. I'll hang up and listen
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
I spent a decade in the Bundesliga and we would always just draw straws.
The Gator
Footballguy
My team sheet would be;
PK Taker- Henderson, Jordan (unless of ####### course Balotelli is on the ####### pitch, duh)
El Floppo
Footballguy
unless otherwise directed from the bench, the guy who is told to take the pks before the game takes the pks.
otherwise it's unbridled cats and dogs chaos.
Eephus
Footballguy
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Pretty sure I told this story already, but last year my son and another eight year old threw rocks to see who got to take the kick after arguing for 30 seconds while the ref was trying to get them to get on with it already. 1-2-3 throw -- completely oblivious to the whistle or the fact that there were 30 adults watching.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
It is official.
They have him on loan for a year signed as a young DP. I have not seen him play but his resume looks impressive having already appeared 45 times for FC Nantes at 22 years old. This looks like it should be a very nice pick up for Philly if he can make the MLS adjustment (travel, turf etc) in a workable time period.
This is another very interesting, non MLS type signing. It just adds to the nice off season the league has had.
Here are some highlights
http://youtu.be/ZNiZnT4KEsE
Jaysus
Good times!
I refuse to learn how to pronounce his last name. I shall henceforth refer to him as Beardnando.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
*25 years ago, in 1990, the old ASL (American Soccer League) and the WSL (Western Soccer League) merged to form the APSL.
*The APSL had 22 teams in it and comprised pretty much the entire total of professional playing soccer teams in the US.
*The APSL drew a total of 238,040 fans for the entire regular season.
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*Today the professional club ranks are made up of MLS, NASL and USL
*The professional ranks now have 55 teams in it (using this seasons # of teams).
*Last year, professional club soccer drew a total of 7,537,850 fans for regular season games
*The APSL had 22 teams in it and comprised pretty much the entire total of professional playing soccer teams in the US.
*The APSL drew a total of 238,040 fans for the entire regular season.
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*Today the professional club ranks are made up of MLS, NASL and USL
*The professional ranks now have 55 teams in it (using this seasons # of teams).
*Last year, professional club soccer drew a total of 7,537,850 fans for regular season games
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Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
I want someone to score everything I do to electronic dance music.
:makes a pour over coffee to a thumping bass line:
:makes a pour over coffee to a thumping bass line:
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I am having some fun reading the FFA thread titles and trying to guess which thread this post was originally meant for.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
I was guessing maybe the highlight vid above? Though I didn't look to see if it actually had a thumping bass.I am having some fun reading the FFA thread titles and trying to guess which thread this post was originally meant for.
Jaysus
Good times!
Yeah, I was assuming it was the Beardnando© videoI was guessing maybe the highlight vid above? Though I didn't look to see if it actually had a thumping bass.I am having some fun reading the FFA thread titles and trying to guess which thread this post was originally meant for.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
From a business standpoint, there is no relation.
From a US Soccer position, this is where the leagues currently stand:
Division 1: MLS
Division 2: NASL
Division 3: USL
USL has stated they intend to apply for division 2 status in the next couple of years.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
ahh that makes more sense! I watched the video with no soundI was guessing maybe the highlight vid above? Though I didn't look to see if it actually had a thumping bass.I am having some fun reading the FFA thread titles and trying to guess which thread this post was originally meant for.
Dentist
***Official FBG Dentist***
have they adopted my plan to increase the goal size by 20% yet?
if not i'll get back to playing chess
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Why would that be granted?
Oh, wait. Let me guess.
NASL has nothing to do with US Soccer's monopolists, while the USL is tied to MLS and seen as a way to extend the monopoly further down the food chain?
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NewlyRetired
Footballguy
What you say is true.
But the rules were in place well before USL and MLS had any sort of business relationship. US Soccer has guidelines for what division you can be sanctioned as. USL should be able to hit those guidelines in a couple of years and would likely get sanctioned as Division 2 whether or not they had any relationship with MLS.
Here are the updated rules for division 2 status in US Soccer as of 2012
http://www.insidemnsoccer.com/2010/08/12/ussf-d-2-professional-league-standards/
UNITED STATES SOCCER FEDERATION
PROFESSIONAL LEAGUE STANDARDS
- I. General Requirements for All Professional Leagues (Additional Specific Division Standards Listed Below): Composition; Play i. League must determine a champion each year based on seasonal play or by means of a post-season playoff tournament.
- ii. League playing rules must comply with all relevant FIFA guidelines and Laws of the Game.
- Markets; Stadia; and Fields i. At least 75 percent of the league’s teams must be based in the United States.
- ii. League stadiums must meet the following parameters: All stadiums/arenas must have controllable ingress/egress.
- All outdoor leagues: Playing surfaces for all teams must be at least 70 yards by 110 yards and be FIFA-approved.
- Coaches; Referees
- i. The coaches of each of the league’s teams must hold a USSF “A” coaching license (or equivalent from the appropriate federation) within two years of their appointment.
- ii. All games played by league teams in the United States must be refereed by Federation-licensed or approved referees assigned pursuant to league-specific policies set forth by the Federation, if any.
- Financial Viability i. As specified for each division, the league must require each team to post with the league or, if so directed, with the Federation, an adequate performance bond or other security to secure the performance of the teams’ obligations (including, without limitation, player and staff salaries and wages, stadium lease commitments and third party vendor obligations in addition to commitments by each team to the league) for the current season. In the case of a single-entity league, the league must provide, or demonstrate that it has, adequate security to ensure the performance of the league’s obligations for the current season. The amount of any such bond or security shall be set by the Federation in its sole discretion.
- League Office i. League must have a central office that is open during regular business hours year round.
- ii. League must have a full-time employee who handles the responsibilities of a chief executive officer or commissioner.
- iii. League must have an active publicity/public relations program.
- iv. League must have an active marketing and sponsorship program.
- v. League must have a director of officials or, with the Federation’s approval, may delegate such function to the Federation.
- vi. League must have a professional registrar.
- vii. League must have a disciplinary body or an executive group to review misconduct.
- viii. League must have an executive committee.
- Media i. League and each league team must produce an annual media guide.
- ii. League must generate and disseminate weekly statistical reports and regular press releases.
- iii. League or its teams must produce a line-up card or other similar guide for each individual game.
- Team Organization i. Each team must have individuals handling responsibilities of the following positions: general manager, director of marketing/sales, director of communications/media relations, director of promotions/community relations, director of game operations, head coach, assistant coach, trainer, ticketing manager, finance director, and clerical staff.
- ii. Each team must demonstrate its on-going commitment to the promotion of soccer at all levels in its home market.
- iii. The league shall impose limitations on each team, set from time to time by the Federation, regarding the number of non-domestic (as defined by the Federation) players that may be listed on the roster.
- iv. No owner may exercise control over more than one club in such a way that the integrity of any game or competition would be jeopardized. If it is necessary for the viability of the league for an owner to own more than one team, the league and the owner must present the Federation with a plan how such owner will relinquish ownership of all but one team as soon as possible. However, all teams must maintain independent operations to maintain the integrity of all games and competitions.
- Relationship with Federation i. League must apply to become a member of the Federation and all teams must be and remain in good standing with the appropriate federation. As part of the application process, the league must pay reasonable costs the Federation may incur for any review of the financial viability of the league and its teams.
- ii. League must become and remain a member in good standing of the Federation.
- iii. League must pay all applicable Federation fees and dues on a timely basis.
- iv. League must submit to the Federation an annual report setting forth, in reasonable detail, the status of its compliance with these standards, including a description of how each team in the league is demonstrating its commitment to the promotion of soccer in its home market and the development of players at the youth level.
- v. League must release its players to play on the U.S. national teams and shall actively support the U.S. national team programs.
- vi. League must register its players with the Federation on a timely basis.
- vii. Federation shall have the right to review any financial information, books and records of the league and teams, including any audits conducted by either the league or teams. Federation shall have the right to require an independent audit at its own expense of the league or teams. In the event such an independent audit establishes material irregularities, the cost of the audit shall be paid by the league or team, as applicable.
- viii. League must have a code of conduct that is signed by all teams and players.
- ix. Teams shall provide attendance figures and gross gate reports as requested by the Federation.
- x. Team and league shall notify the Federation if the team has payables overdue by thirty (30) days or more for the team’s players, its stadium authority, the league or the team’s key vendors.
- Waiver Procedures
- i. League may request a temporary waiver from compliance with a Standard. Any such request must be made in writing to the Federation and explain in detail (a) the Standard for which a waiver is sought, and (b) the reasons why a waiver is necessary. Waivers may only be requested for one year.
- ii. Waiver requests will only be granted in exceptional circumstances. However, in no event will a waiver be granted with respect to FIFA guidelines or the Laws of the Game without FIFA approval.
- II. Division II Men’s Outdoor League: Composition; Play i. League must have a minimum of eight teams to apply. By year three, the league must have a minimum of 10 teams. By year six, the league must have a minimum of 12 teams.
- ii. U.S.-based teams must participate in all representative CONCACAF competitions for which they are eligible.
- Markets; Stadia; and Fields i. In the first year, U.S.-based teams must be located in at least two different time zones in the continental United States. By year six, U.S.-based teams must be located in at least three different time zones.
- ii. At least 75 percent of the league’s teams must play in metropolitan markets of at least 750,000 persons.
- iii. League stadiums must have a minimum seating capacity of 5,000.
- iv. Not later than 120 days prior to the start of each season, each team shall have a lease for one full season with its home stadium.
- Financial Viability i. Each team must submit a letter of credit in the amount of $750,000 with the joint beneficiaries being the Federation and the league in a form satisfactory to the Federation on an annual basis. The letter of credit will be used to cover the costs of the team’s operations (including, without limitation, player and staff salaries and wages, stadium lease commitments and third party vendor obligations in addition to commitments by each team to the league) for a season should that become necessary. The letters of credit must be submitted 120 days prior to the start of the next season for each team. Any team that utilizes the letter of credit during the season will be required to replenish the letter of credit at least 120 days prior to the next year.
- ii. Each team ownership group must demonstrate the financial capacity to operate the team for three years. As part of the process of demonstrating financial capacity, each ownership group must provide detailed financial history, verifiable individual financial net worth statements for each member of its ownership group owning at least a five percent (5%) interest in the team and projections (including a detailed budget) for the team to the Federation in a form satisfactory to the Federation.
- iii. Each team must have and designate one principal owner that owns at least 35% of the team and has authority to bind the team. Such principal owner must have an individual net worth of at least twenty million US dollars exclusive of the value of his/her ownership in the league or team.
- iv. Any prospective team principal owner must meet with Federation staff regarding the responsibilities of owning a team. In the case of a new league, each team principal owner in the new league and the senior league personnel must meet with Federation staff on an individual basis, as required by the Federation.
- v. The league will furnish to the Federation prompt written notice of the following (and, in any event, within five business days of the league obtaining knowledge thereof): any violation of these standards, specifying the nature and extent thereof and the corrective action (if any) taken or proposed to be taken with respect thereto;
- the filing or commencement of, or any written threat or notice of intention of any person to file or commence, any action, suit, litigation or proceeding, whether at law or in equity by or before any governmental authority, against the league or one or more teams in the league that could reasonably be expected to result in a Material Adverse Effect.
- any development that has resulted in, or could reasonably be expected to result in, a Material Adverse Effect.
- “Material Adverse Effect” shall mean a material adverse change in or effect on the business, condition (financial or otherwise), results of operations, assets or liabilities of the league and/or its teams, individually or taken as a whole; (b) the ability of the league or its teams to perform any of its obligations under these Standards; or © the ability of the league or its teams to meet any of their financial obligations.
- Team Organization i. All of the required positions must be filled by full-time staff during the season.
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Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Heh. Pure guess that USL was tied to MLS.
I'm sure that NASL would be treated just the same if it were starting out today.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I don't know what the exact relationship is. MLS reserve teams now play in the USL so there is some definite tie.
The NASL and USL Pro previously had a business relationship when the NASL launched in 2011.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
River Plate hoping to rise to the occasion as players take Viagra to combat effects of high altitude ahead of Copa Libertadores clash against San Jose
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2960240/River-Plate-hoping-rise-occasion-players-Viagra-combat-effects-high-altitude-ahead-Copa-Libertadores-clash-against-San-Jose.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2960240/River-Plate-hoping-rise-occasion-players-Viagra-combat-effects-high-altitude-ahead-Copa-Libertadores-clash-against-San-Jose.html
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Cool, increase variance.Dentist said:
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
I'm partial to Fernando VenezuelaJaysus said:
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Málaga!
roadkill1292
Footballguy
Swans pretty much replayed their win over Soton from a couple of weeks ago, right down to the Shelvey screamer for the win.
Third place for the taking again. Win, lose or draw tomorrow, #### you, Liverpool.
Kafka
Footballguy
Shocking...Barca at home, chance to go top of the table, & they only managed 4 shots on goal with 73% possession. Dane Alves strikes again.
F'n QPR
I saw something in that game today that put in perspective how far the US still has to go. With injuries, QPR was down to giving a debut to Darnell Furlong at right-back. I believe he's the 4th guy to play that position for them this year. He played tactically sound, solid defensively, and made some decent runs going forward. Because Barton was Barton QPR had to play the last 60 minutes with 10 men. Furlong was not a liability at all. He played as good a game as I've ever seen a right back play for the USMNT.
I saw something in that game today that put in perspective how far the US still has to go. With injuries, QPR was down to giving a debut to Darnell Furlong at right-back. I believe he's the 4th guy to play that position for them this year. He played tactically sound, solid defensively, and made some decent runs going forward. Because Barton was Barton QPR had to play the last 60 minutes with 10 men. Furlong was not a liability at all. He played as good a game as I've ever seen a right back play for the USMNT.
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