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Tim Tebow - 8.17.21 Waived By Jacksonville (4 Viewers)

Good signing. If it were any other name being signed as a 3rd/4th/5th qb, nothing would be made of it. Likely doesn't make the roster, and if he does he won't see the field. Could be interesting if Chip used him as a 2point conversion specialist though and went back to his Oregon ways of going for 2 almost every time.

 
Rotoworld take:

Eagles agreed to terms with QB Tim Tebow on a one-year contract.
Although the move will generate countless headlines, Tebow is a flier signing as the Eagles begin their offseason program. Sam Bradford is the penciled-in starter with Mark Sanchez backing him up, and G.J. Kinne and Matt Barkley likely vying with Tebow to be third string. The Eagles have tried trading Barkley, but found no takers. Tebow has not played in the NFL since 2012. He spent the 2013 preseason with the Patriots, completing 11-of-30 passes for 145 yards (4.8 YPA), two touchdowns, and two interceptions, taking seven sacks among 37 dropbacks. He did rush 16 times for 91 yards (5.7 YPC). Tebow turns 28 in August.

Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Apr 19 - 6:41 PM
 
Tebowmania Returns: Eagles will sign Tim Tebow on MondayExcerpt:

In his career, Tebow has completed only 173 of 361 passes (47.9 percent) for 2,422 yards (6.71 per attempt), 13 touchdowns and seven interceptions, and he's also fumbled seven times. His completion percentage and yards per attempt dipped in every season of his three-year career. He also took a sack on over 10 percent of his dropbacks, one of the highest rates ever.

Tebow's 47.9 completion percentage ranks 297th among the 309 players who have attempted at least 350 NFL passes since the AFL/NFL merger. Put simply, unless Tebow has made massive strides with his accuracy as a passer in the two years he's been away from the league, he is not an NFL-caliber quarterback.
 
Good signing. If it were any other name being signed as a 3rd/4th/5th qb, nothing would be made of it. Likely doesn't make the roster, and if he does he won't see the field. Could be interesting if Chip used him as a 2point conversion specialist though and went back to his Oregon ways of going for 2 almost every time.
He'll see the field if he makes the team. Bradford and Sanchez will both go down.
 
Good signing. If it were any other name being signed as a 3rd/4th/5th qb, nothing would be made of it. Likely doesn't make the roster, and if he does he won't see the field. Could be interesting if Chip used him as a 2point conversion specialist though and went back to his Oregon ways of going for 2 almost every time.
He'll see the field if he makes the team. Bradford and Sanchez will both go down.
This move is a precursor to the Eagles trading Bradford+picks for Mariota. Tebow would make more sense as a backup to Mariota than Sanchez or Barkley. And Tebow would be no threat to Mariota.

 
"There are exceptions to every philosophy," Kelly said. "People used to think the world was flat, philosophically. Till that guy took the boat and just kept going and didn't fall off the edge."
Sail on Chip Kelly
 
One of the more desirable explanations is the Eagles actually found a trade partner for Matt Barkley. He has to be the worst fit for Chip's offense. If he actually found a team that would be willing to give a 7th rounder, I would be amazed.

 
One of the more desirable explanations is the Eagles actually found a trade partner for Matt Barkley. He has to be the worst fit for Chip's offense. If he actually found a team that would be willing to give a 7th rounder, I would be amazed.
They have found a trading partner. The Saskatchewan Roughriders are willing to give up a 7th round CFL Draft Pick for Barkley!

 
One of the more desirable explanations is the Eagles actually found a trade partner for Matt Barkley. He has to be the worst fit for Chip's offense. If he actually found a team that would be willing to give a 7th rounder, I would be amazed.
They have found a trading partner. The Saskatchewan Roughriders are willing to give up a 7th round CFL Draft Pick for Barkley!
Sold

 
Maybe team chaplin later? .....Sideline bench cheerleader?.....Waterboy or will Chip sign Adam Sandler?

What's next?

Qb no way!

 
will this guy ever just go away?
He should give up on his dream and turn down job offers for your benefit?

It would probably be easier for him to just go away and stay at his cushy ESPN job rather than go through another round of criticisms, so I give him credit for his persistence. I don't think he's a very good QB at all, but can't question the guy's heart.

 
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Rotoworld:

Tim Tebow - QB - Eagles

The Philadelphia Inquirer considers Tim Tebow's chances of making the Eagles' final roster "long."

Back in April of 2013, coach Chip Kelly said "repetitive accuracy" is the "No. 1 quality" he's looking for in a quarterback. While at Oregon in 2011, Kelly said, "I look for a quarterback who can run and not a running back who can throw. ... We are not a Tim Tebow type of quarterback team." Chip has clearly come around a bit on Tebow, who was added Sunday as a quarterback. But the fact remains this is a street free agent who hasn't played since 2012 and comes in as the No. 5 player at a position the Eagles will keep three. Tebow has an uphill battle on his hands to prove he has value.

Source: Philadelphia Inquirer & Daily News

Apr 20 - 8:30 AM
 
All I have to say on this subject is

!!! :excited: !!!

!!! :tebow: !!!

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!!! :tebow: !!!

!!! :excited: !!!

-QG

 
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Two years out of football is not ideal. OTOH Chip's system does create a lot of room to run. I also wonder if this is tipping off some change in the XP conversion rules, or maybe Chip sees this as a chance to use Tebow as a holder or 2 point specialist. I think I would take Tebow over Barkley in any event.

 
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awesome

PHILADELPHIA -- Judging by the statistics, the most dangerous place in Philadelphia for the next couple of months will be along the sidelines of the NovaCare Complex practice fields.

With the signing of Tim Tebow, the Philadelphia Eagles now have three of the five most inaccurate passers in the NFL over the past five years. Sam Bradford, the presumed starting quarterback, has a QBR of 40.7 during his career. Mark Sanchez’s QBR is 40.4, while Tebow’s is an NFL-low 33.4 Chip Kelly may want his assistant coaches to wear helmets during offseason workouts.
this guy thinks it was musgrave in the conservatory with a lead pipe

http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2015/1/19/7855295/what-bill-musgraves-history-could-mean-for-oakland-raiders-offense

 
that's ####### hilarious

Feely's take on the signing is that Kelly really believes his system will overcome everything and manage to "utilize" Tebow.

"He thinks his system is better than everyone's and his system is gonna work and it doesn't matter if he gets rid of star players like DeSean Jackson or LeSean McCoy," Feely said. "He thinks he's smarter so he can take a guy everyone else has quit on ... and utilize him."
but this part sounds just like what a lot of people have said about belichick over the years .

"that guy thinks he's smarter than ME!"

so far, everybody's been pretty spot on right with belichick....

 
that's ####### hilarious

Feely's take on the signing is that Kelly really believes his system will overcome everything and manage to "utilize" Tebow.

"He thinks his system is better than everyone's and his system is gonna work and it doesn't matter if he gets rid of star players like DeSean Jackson or LeSean McCoy," Feely said. "He thinks he's smarter so he can take a guy everyone else has quit on ... and utilize him."
but this part sounds just like what a lot of people have said about belichick over the years .

"that guy thinks he's smarter than ME!"

so far, everybody's been pretty spot on right with belichick....
But Kelly isn't hoodie.

A LOT of guys could look good with DJAX and Shady, etc on the field. I know, people would say the same about Hoodie and Brady and Gronk, etc, but overall, up to this point (and it can change), I think the history suggests that Hoodie helped make the players and so far, the players have helped Kelly.

This whole "thing" in Philly is very interesting to me because Kelly's arrival in the NFL truly excited me. I liked the idea of a new, fresh mind coming in instead of regurgitating all these washouts all the time. I liked the idea of fresh, innovative play. I'm not even an Eagles fan but I was excited to watch them. Now I am nervous that he's getting too big of a head and its going to crash around him. When you make the moves he has made, you had better win and win big and I'm not sure he can.

 
that's ####### hilarious

Feely's take on the signing is that Kelly really believes his system will overcome everything and manage to "utilize" Tebow.

"He thinks his system is better than everyone's and his system is gonna work and it doesn't matter if he gets rid of star players like DeSean Jackson or LeSean McCoy," Feely said. "He thinks he's smarter so he can take a guy everyone else has quit on ... and utilize him."
but this part sounds just like what a lot of people have said about belichick over the years .

"that guy thinks he's smarter than ME!"

so far, everybody's been pretty spot on right with belichick....
But Kelly isn't hoodie.

A LOT of guys could look good with DJAX and Shady, etc on the field. I know, people would say the same about Hoodie and Brady and Gronk, etc, but overall, up to this point (and it can change), I think the history suggests that Hoodie helped make the players and so far, the players have helped Kelly.

This whole "thing" in Philly is very interesting to me because Kelly's arrival in the NFL truly excited me. I liked the idea of a new, fresh mind coming in instead of regurgitating all these washouts all the time. I liked the idea of fresh, innovative play. I'm not even an Eagles fan but I was excited to watch them. Now I am nervous that he's getting too big of a head and its going to crash around him. When you make the moves he has made, you had better win and win big and I'm not sure he can.
Yeah, DJax has really made Jay Gruden look good. And those DJax/Shady Eagles were already pretty awesome with those 8-8 and 4-12 seasons prior to Kelly's arrival.

 
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But Kelly isn't hoodie.

A LOT of guys could look good with DJAX and Shady, etc on the field. I know, people would say the same about Hoodie and Brady and Gronk, etc, but overall, up to this point (and it can change), I think the history suggests that Hoodie helped make the players and so far, the players have helped Kelly.

This whole "thing" in Philly is very interesting to me because Kelly's arrival in the NFL truly excited me. I liked the idea of a new, fresh mind coming in instead of regurgitating all these washouts all the time. I liked the idea of fresh, innovative play. I'm not even an Eagles fan but I was excited to watch them. Now I am nervous that he's getting too big of a head and its going to crash around him. When you make the moves he has made, you had better win and win big and I'm not sure he can.
I'm mostly both interested and annoyed by the cliche psychology of it.

you say you liked the idea of 'fresh innovative play', but really only as long as it's done the way things have always been done, because if it's some change you don't understand or don't agree with it would be a personal affront --- dat guy tinks he's better than us!!

notice how people typically use us or we to pander to an audience when they actually mean I or me, as referring to themselves would seem kind of egotistical, and it's the other guy being portrayed as egotist --- you wouldn't get much support claiming some guy thinks he's smarter than you are, so you'd hide behind the crowd and say something from the back of the room like 'he thinks he's smarter than the room!', instead.

that's a fair point that he's not hoodie, but there was a time even hoodie wasn't hoodie

the villagers ended up 'winning' that one, in the end, as they usually do, dragging themselves from the muck of the thatch hovels they built for themselves to protest electricity, or vaccinations, or that hot chick that won't date them and ruined their crops.

returning to their lives digging in the dirt, safe in the knowledge that there's nobody around smarter or better than they.

remember when that idiot josh mcdaniels traded cutler for 2 firsts and a starting qb, right before unloading marshall for 2 seconds?

dat guy thought he was smarter than us, but we knews betters.

remember when the 6 win niners hired jim harbaugh who went on to average 12 wins the next 3 years, going to the conference championship each year along with a superbowl appearance?

that guy spawned threads about his tremendous ego and was run out of town.

I wonder if vince lombardi got the villagers all riled up like this, or maybe back then there was sufficient lack of telecommunication to keep us in the dark about the process so we wouldn't take insult.

chip kelly works with these guys every day and scrutinizes film of not only every breath they take, but every move they make.

I don't have any more knowledge of where kelly takes this team than you do, but I know we haven't seen it yet, so if you want something fresh and innovative then just enjoy it, stop complaining, and maybe accept the fact that when it comes to coaching a football team chip kelly is not only smarter than you, but better than you.

and by you I mean us.

 
5. The speculation that Kelly signed Tebow as a possible two-point conversion specialist is interesting. The NFL is expected to vote to change the point-after rules in May. If those changes make the two-point conversion more attractive, then sure, Kelly is likely to go for it more often. And yes, Tebow's run/pass capabilities would make him an effective weapon from the 2-yard line. But I have to think that's not the main reason Kelly signed Tebow. With Bradford, DeMarco Murray and Ryan Mathews potentially in the backfield, and with tight ends and wide receivers on the field, Kelly should be able to come up with some effective ideas that don't require changing quarterbacks.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/67959/ten-thoughts-on-newest-philadelphia-eagle-tim-tebow

 

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