Yeah, I agree it is the plot. My point is that it's bad.Or you can let this go as a plot device in a ### ####ed showSorry I didn't show up sooner. Maybe everyone else just assumed they were because you know 99.9999% of the show is when the characters are awake doing stuff.
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***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (3 Viewers)
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BigJohn
Footballguy
One more nitpick. Shower boy turns zombie, finds the guy asleep in the cell and starts feasting away. Now, when someone was coming and the noise got his attention, he got up and left. Human buffet in the bed turns shortly after. You have to assume he was dead for awhile. If junior had not been distracted, how much longer would he have dined on him? Could the guy have turned and would junior have kept on eating? Kind of makes me wonder why the walkers just don't eat each other.
mr roboto
Footballguy
This was covered on Talking Dead. One zombie can't eat a whole kill in the amount of time it takes that kill to turn. Zombies don't eat each other either.
cstu
Footballguy
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
yep, and didn't they, at some point early in the series, cover themselves with a zombie corpse at one point as a way to fool the walkers? or am I thinking of another zombie apocalypse show?
mr roboto
Footballguy
Yes. They've also smeared themselves in zombie guts to obscure their 'fresh' smell.
cstu
Footballguy
Most of them are, we're watching a lucky group of them.I assumed the stupidest people were already zombie food.I have always thought that they should lock the doors. Ever since they had an old man who had his leg amputated living with them. Hell, just as an old man who could have a heart attack in his sleep, I'd lock my door.
That said, I don't think it takes away from the show that they didn't. The world is full of stupid people. Why should this show be any different?
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snogger
Footballguy
Will put my thoughts in a spoiler tag as it has to do with the preview trailer and some avoid those like a Zombie Plague
In the previews, the group in the car hear something on the radio.. Guessing there will be more about a survivor camp/city and once they determine the prison is no long safe they will head there.
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Jayrok
Footballguy
That explains why the woman (Rick shot her in the head after saying he was sorry for what happened to her in season 1) on the grass only had half her body. She was eaten but a few but turned herself.
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
yep, but it will be interesting howWill put my thoughts in a spoiler tag as it has to do with the preview trailer and some avoid those like a Zombie Plague
In the previews, the group in the car hear something on the radio.. Guessing there will be more about a survivor camp/city and once they determine the prison is no long safe they will head there.
they get through the huge army of walkers on the highway
BigJohn
Footballguy
Will put my thoughts in a spoiler tag as it has to do with the preview trailer and some avoid those like a Zombie Plague
In the previews, the group in the car hear something on the radio.. Guessing there will be more about a survivor camp/city and once they determine the prison is no long safe they will head there.
yep, but it will be interesting how
they get through the huge army of walkers on the highway
they get through the huge army of walkers on the highway
U-Turn.
Cold Dead Hands
Footballguy
Will put my thoughts in a spoiler tag as it has to do with the preview trailer and some avoid those like a Zombie Plague
In the previews, the group in the car hear something on the radio.. Guessing there will be more about a survivor camp/city and once they determine the prison is no long safe they will head there.yep, but it will be interesting how
they get through the huge army of walkers on the highway
U-Turn.
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Michael Brown
Footballguy
shadyridr said:
Tackling Dummies
Footballguy
Sorry of this has been answered, but who was feeding the mice to the zombies?
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Still a mystery. Some suspects are...
Crazy teen girl just adopted by Carol
Carl to get his gun back
Military guy that seems shady
snogger
Footballguy
Disco Stu
Confirmed FBGal
I don't think the first two are tall enough based on the flashlight and mouse height relative to the walker.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Tackling Dummies
Footballguy
Follow up on the mice feeding....are/were the mice infected or is the flu something else? A single mouse is just teasing a starving zombie, so my thought is that the mice play a larger role in the sickness angle.
shadyridr
Footballguy
not a mystery at all. It was obviously #1. Do they have to spell put every single thing for you people? Maybe they should do obvious dexter voiceovers.
Corporation
Angry Bovine
Hard to get sick when you're dead. The Zombies with the red eyes are ones who died from the flu strain, they didn't die then catch the flu.
Whoever was feeding them rats (ill intent or not) caused them to bunch up at the fence. Likely the noise from the feeding frenzy drawing them all to one place. Number 1 suspect for me is still Willis (who has bad intentions), #2 the crazy girl (who is just screwed up).
Insein
Footballguy
I'd say it's possible that it's that simple giving the level of writing going on. They would beat you over the head with such an obvious "mystery" but I would like to think that because it is SO obvious, they have another thought in mind.
flapgreen
Footballguy
shadyridr said:
Disco Stu
Confirmed FBGal
Disagree. I don't think Sophia 2.0 knows how to get past the first fence. The rat feeding obviously happened at the second (outer) fence.
DocGonzo
Footballguy
Agree with Stu on the rat feeding. But, I don't know, maybe she dragged a step-ladder out there. I think they want us to think it's the little girl, but I can't quite get there. No idea who else to nominate here though.
I have to believe that the Governor is the one out there driving all of the zombies toward the prison. Bent on revenge, wants to destroy the new little utopia, etc etc. It seems like that would be a good way to bring him back in and also a good catalyst to drive the characters out of the prison and onto the next plotline. I don't know how many episodes he's signed on for, but the Governor coming back riding herd on a group of zombies to finish off the prison sanctuary might be a good way to end the first half of the season.
One thing I've liked so far, regarding the writing: It seems they've made an effort to make the characters, especially Darryl and Michonne, a little more, I don't know, likeable maybe? They aren't constantly standoffish and we even saw a little humor from them in the first couple of episodes. I think it makes them easier to relate to and root for.
I have to believe that the Governor is the one out there driving all of the zombies toward the prison. Bent on revenge, wants to destroy the new little utopia, etc etc. It seems like that would be a good way to bring him back in and also a good catalyst to drive the characters out of the prison and onto the next plotline. I don't know how many episodes he's signed on for, but the Governor coming back riding herd on a group of zombies to finish off the prison sanctuary might be a good way to end the first half of the season.
One thing I've liked so far, regarding the writing: It seems they've made an effort to make the characters, especially Darryl and Michonne, a little more, I don't know, likeable maybe? They aren't constantly standoffish and we even saw a little humor from them in the first couple of episodes. I think it makes them easier to relate to and root for.
Copeman
Footballguy
No, it doesn't need to stop. With the nitpicking going on in here, it absolutely deserves its place.
The writing isn't the greatest, we all get that. It's the stupid nitpicking of issues that can and have been answered, or at least justified, that gets overlooked.
Locking everyone in their cell. Fine. Great. That would be smart. But as stated in this thread, they have 2 sets of keys.
Building a moat. Great. Awesome idea. With how long that would take and the resources available, yeah, that'd be easy.....
You say:
"but the nonsense we have to swallow each week gets larger and larger with no foot off the gas."
No, the writing isn't as good as Breaking Bad. Not many shows are. I still don't understand why people watch this if they hate the writing. Is that a canned enough response for ya as well? You want some "common damned sense", how about not watching a show that has horrible writing/story lines?
Tackling Dummies
Footballguy
The Governor will be on this season, so my 2c is that is the storyline builds to episode 8 (mid season break) to see his return.
Notorious T.R.E.
Showdown!™ Administrator
Yep
The Governor will be on this season, so my 2c is that is the storyline builds to episode 8 (mid season break) to see his return.
Mile High
Footballguy
Moving past the nitpicking...
So do we think Karen & red shirt died of the fever and then were dragged out and burned or do we think someone didn't want to take the risk and put them down? My guess is the "council" made an executive decision to burn them without telling anyone first to try and contain the disease. Even if they say it was after the fever killed them, there'd be no way to know for certain.
Oh, and I don't watch the previews because this show is very bad about giving things away (like the mid season finale last year when it was obvious that Rick & company attacked and freed Darryl.) So would appreciate people keeping that stuff in spoiler boxes.
So do we think Karen & red shirt died of the fever and then were dragged out and burned or do we think someone didn't want to take the risk and put them down? My guess is the "council" made an executive decision to burn them without telling anyone first to try and contain the disease. Even if they say it was after the fever killed them, there'd be no way to know for certain.
Oh, and I don't watch the previews because this show is very bad about giving things away (like the mid season finale last year when it was obvious that Rick & company attacked and freed Darryl.) So would appreciate people keeping that stuff in spoiler boxes.
Scoresman
Footballguy
Problems with Walking Dead:
1. Liberals
2. How come nobody's hair is ever dirty except that one guy with the crossbow?
3. Zombies? Come on.
4. Sharing.
5. Caring.
6. Arguing
7. Sex.
8. I haven't seen much of the show but how come that horse had to get eaten? That was mean.
9. Cops afraid to exercise their authority.
10. Gun control (lady gets gun taken from her)
11. Gas shortage (peak oil is debunked)
12. Obama
1. Liberals
2. How come nobody's hair is ever dirty except that one guy with the crossbow?
3. Zombies? Come on.
4. Sharing.
5. Caring.
6. Arguing
7. Sex.
8. I haven't seen much of the show but how come that horse had to get eaten? That was mean.
9. Cops afraid to exercise their authority.
10. Gun control (lady gets gun taken from her)
11. Gas shortage (peak oil is debunked)
12. Obama
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
Sorry but you're wrong. This is a big-budget show. They promo the hell out of it. AMC presents it as high quality television and refers to it in the same breath as Mad Men and Breaking Bad. It even has its own after-show (Talking Dead). This is not Scooby-Doo.
It is absolutely appropriate to criticize the sloppy writing and lack of realism.
Mile High
Footballguy
STBootleg
Footballguy
Copeman
Footballguy
It is a big budget show, however each year it gets lower and lower. Kinda funny huh? Anyways, what does the budget have anything to do with what I said? You know, the rest of my quote you ignored. Again.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
Just forget it. You're the guy that just now started to notice Sons of Anarchy is crap. Discussing this with you is pointless.
Copeman
Footballguy
Nothing else was worth responding to, as usual.
Again, for the ADD crowd here, sure the show has some shady writing. I think we all can agree. Some of the things being consistently nitpicked have been very logical complaints. Alot of them however, have been stupid, and people keep harping on those same ones. Many in here have explained why maybe they wrote, or failed to write, something in. Such as the cell doors. Such as the moat. The list is longer than the logical complaints. So yes, again I say with the nitpicking going on in here, this quote absolutely deserves its place: "Lots of expected realism for a show based on a comic book".
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Copeman
Footballguy
Yet you continue to watch, and instigate in both threads. You watch two shows with horrible writing, plots, and acting. Good job. Sorry you have nothing better to do with your time.
Copeman
Footballguy
Disco Stu
Confirmed FBGal
Do we actually know this, or is it an assumption based on the one drop we know about?
Season 1 had a $3.4 million per episode budget. That was reportedly dropped to $2.6 million per episode for season 2. I haven't heard anything about season 3 or 4.
They were on the move in season 1, season 2 was mostly at the farm, season 3 was mostly at the prison AND Woodbury.
My guess is S1$ > S3$ > S2$
Copeman
Footballguy
Don't know about season 4, but season's 3 budget was "supposed" to be larger than season 2, but smaller than 1.
Not sure that a big budget correlates to better writing though.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
cstu
Footballguy
S1 budget was $3.4M per episode and they cut S2 to $2.8M. Supposedly they increased the budget a little in S3 but no numbers were released.
