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***Official Pro Wrestling Thread*** (12 Viewers)
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Brady Marino
Footballguy
And Cena wins. Crowd yawns.
Brady Marino
Footballguy
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Too many false finishers at the end. Very slow ending.
Rock's matches in general have just been slow. Wasn't a fan of either of his Cena or Punk matches.
Cena/Punk on Raw a month or so back was better than anything on this show IMO. The 2 just have great chemistry together.
Rock's matches in general have just been slow. Wasn't a fan of either of his Cena or Punk matches.
Cena/Punk on Raw a month or so back was better than anything on this show IMO. The 2 just have great chemistry together.
GoFishTN
Footballguy
Yeah, they should have ended it with the callback to the People's Elbow/Rockbottom from last year.
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
Man, thanks for the link!!! But for those of you that used it, I have been spending a chunk of time removing all the forced installed programs and registry entries--even though I clicked "no" and "cancel", I still ended up with 3-4 of them. Do a pretty good clean if I were you.
You get what you get, but I won't complain,
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
^^Install AdBlock/AdBlock Plus.
Tony Jabroni
Footballguy
Pretty bad.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
Brady Marino
Footballguy
That's pretty much the state of the WWE product in recent years. And since the company is still making money, it's not going to change anytime soon.
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
The way Cena was acting at the end, I was just waiting for him to plaster the Rock with the belt. Oh well, won't be the last time WWE disappointed me.
Jeremy
Footballguy
I actually love the Jack Swagger gimmick. I'm not one that pines for the attitude era, but I do like when they get a little bold once in a while with this kind of stuff. I thought I remembered Slaughter get a ton of heet for anti-America gimmick. It's been a long time since we've seen a good racism gimmick. I think they're pulling it off pretty well. I don't know if it's getting over, but I've been entertained by it.
GoFishTN
Footballguy
I enjoyed the Slaughter gimmick myself, but it was bad heat. The real reason they moved Wrestlemania VII was because of very poor ticket sales.I actually love the Jack Swagger gimmick. I'm not one that pines for the attitude era, but I do like when they get a little bold once in a while with this kind of stuff. I thought I remembered Slaughter get a ton of heet for anti-America gimmick. It's been a long time since we've seen a good racism gimmick. I think they're pulling it off pretty well. I don't know if it's getting over, but I've been entertained by it.
Brady Marino
Footballguy
He got the wrong heat. Remember, the Wrestlemania that year was supposed to be at the L.A. Coliseum, but it was moved to the L.A. Memorial Sports Arena due to poor ticket sales, and even the arena wasn't entirely sold out, either.I actually love the Jack Swagger gimmick. I'm not one that pines for the attitude era, but I do like when they get a little bold once in a while with this kind of stuff. I thought I remembered Slaughter get a ton of heet for anti-America gimmick. It's been a long time since we've seen a good racism gimmick. I think they're pulling it off pretty well. I don't know if it's getting over, but I've been entertained by it.
Just about any attempt by Vince to capitalize on a hot-button political issue ends up failing miserably.
SlaX
Footballguy
Best match of that 'Mania was Macho vs Warrior.He got the wrong heat. Remember, the Wrestlemania that year was supposed to be at the L.A. Coliseum, but it was moved to the L.A. Memorial Sports Arena due to poor ticket sales, and even the arena wasn't entirely sold out, either.I actually love the Jack Swagger gimmick. I'm not one that pines for the attitude era, but I do like when they get a little bold once in a while with this kind of stuff. I thought I remembered Slaughter get a ton of heet for anti-America gimmick. It's been a long time since we've seen a good racism gimmick. I think they're pulling it off pretty well. I don't know if it's getting over, but I've been entertained by it.
Just about any attempt by Vince to capitalize on a hot-button political issue ends up failing miserably.
Tony Jabroni
Footballguy
Usually, the Raw after Mania is pretty good and sets the tone for the next couple of months. I'll keep an eye out, but it will most likely be back to channel flipping on Mondays.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Yep. From what I remember, the best match from Wrestlemania is almost never the main event.Best match of that 'Mania was Macho vs Warrior.He got the wrong heat. Remember, the Wrestlemania that year was supposed to be at the L.A. Coliseum, but it was moved to the L.A. Memorial Sports Arena due to poor ticket sales, and even the arena wasn't entirely sold out, either.I actually love the Jack Swagger gimmick. I'm not one that pines for the attitude era, but I do like when they get a little bold once in a while with this kind of stuff. I thought I remembered Slaughter get a ton of heet for anti-America gimmick. It's been a long time since we've seen a good racism gimmick. I think they're pulling it off pretty well. I don't know if it's getting over, but I've been entertained by it.
Just about any attempt by Vince to capitalize on a hot-button political issue ends up failing miserably.
William Munny
Footballguy
It's def over and Slaughter was REALLY over. Only reason Swagger is not the champ is because of his recent arrest.I actually love the Jack Swagger gimmick. I'm not one that pines for the attitude era, but I do like when they get a little bold once in a while with this kind of stuff. I thought I remembered Slaughter get a ton of heet for anti-America gimmick. It's been a long time since we've seen a good racism gimmick. I think they're pulling it off pretty well. I don't know if it's getting over, but I've been entertained by it.
SlaX
Footballguy
HBK vs Bret Hart in the Iron Man match was a damn good main event.Yep. From what I remember, the best match from Wrestlemania is almost never the main event.Best match of that 'Mania was Macho vs Warrior.He got the wrong heat. Remember, the Wrestlemania that year was supposed to be at the L.A. Coliseum, but it was moved to the L.A. Memorial Sports Arena due to poor ticket sales, and even the arena wasn't entirely sold out, either.I actually love the Jack Swagger gimmick. I'm not one that pines for the attitude era, but I do like when they get a little bold once in a while with this kind of stuff. I thought I remembered Slaughter get a ton of heet for anti-America gimmick. It's been a long time since we've seen a good racism gimmick. I think they're pulling it off pretty well. I don't know if it's getting over, but I've been entertained by it.
Just about any attempt by Vince to capitalize on a hot-button political issue ends up failing miserably.
Brady Marino
Footballguy
Not really. If you watch the match in its entirety, it's a rest hold fest. However, it gets the best simply because the rest of the card was the suck.SlaX said:HBK vs Bret Hart in the Iron Man match was a damn good main event.Ghost Rider said:Yep. From what I remember, the best match from Wrestlemania is almost never the main event.SlaX said:Best match of that 'Mania was Macho vs Warrior.Brady Marino said:He got the wrong heat. Remember, the Wrestlemania that year was supposed to be at the L.A. Coliseum, but it was moved to the L.A. Memorial Sports Arena due to poor ticket sales, and even the arena wasn't entirely sold out, either.Jeremy said:I actually love the Jack Swagger gimmick. I'm not one that pines for the attitude era, but I do like when they get a little bold once in a while with this kind of stuff. I thought I remembered Slaughter get a ton of heet for anti-America gimmick. It's been a long time since we've seen a good racism gimmick. I think they're pulling it off pretty well. I don't know if it's getting over, but I've been entertained by it.Brady Marino said:
Just about any attempt by Vince to capitalize on a hot-button political issue ends up failing miserably.
SlaX
Footballguy
I've been watching since the 80's, so I've endured many 60-minute draw matches. Most featured rest holds, story telling and ring psychology. You just can't do a 60-minute Iron Man match with nothing but high spot after high spot. But yes, the rest of the card was horrible. So it really won by default.Not really. If you watch the match in its entirety, it's a rest hold fest. However, it gets the best simply because the rest of the card was the suck.SlaX said:HBK vs Bret Hart in the Iron Man match was a damn good main event.Ghost Rider said:Yep. From what I remember, the best match from Wrestlemania is almost never the main event.SlaX said:Best match of that 'Mania was Macho vs Warrior.Brady Marino said:He got the wrong heat. Remember, the Wrestlemania that year was supposed to be at the L.A. Coliseum, but it was moved to the L.A. Memorial Sports Arena due to poor ticket sales, and even the arena wasn't entirely sold out, either.Jeremy said:I actually love the Jack Swagger gimmick. I'm not one that pines for the attitude era, but I do like when they get a little bold once in a while with this kind of stuff. I thought I remembered Slaughter get a ton of heet for anti-America gimmick. It's been a long time since we've seen a good racism gimmick. I think they're pulling it off pretty well. I don't know if it's getting over, but I've been entertained by it.Brady Marino said:
Just about any attempt by Vince to capitalize on a hot-button political issue ends up failing miserably.
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
True, but most matches in the 50 to 60 minute range that I have seen are not that great. People used to salivate over Ric Flair's ability back in the 80s to have 60-minute matches all of the time, but many of them had huge chunks where they were boring as hell. Give me a great 25-30 minute match and that will beat just about any overlong match.
Charlie Frown
Footballguy
I paid $60 to stream it via wwe.com and the feed crapped out 10 minutes in. WWE emailed me about a partial outtage at 2am and said it was now available to watch. They have a strict no refund policy. Good thing I put it on my credit card. I am getting a full refund.Brady Marino said:Word on the street is that you first must know that there is a row of websites available. 1 in particular. It's a .eu.Courtjester said:I need to find a "link" to watch this. Because of the Xfinity alarm install we did last month, our cable bill is sitting at $450.00 a month for the next 3 months and the wife isn't excited about adding another $50.00 bucks on top of that.
I ended up streaming it illegally. That's what I get for trying to do the right thing.
William Munny
Footballguy
Just watched the last five matches online....I don't get the complaints. I don't watch much anymore but I was very entertained by all 5, with Punk-Taker and Triple H-Brock two of the better matches I've seen.
Punk can no doubt carry the company as the top face. He's so over.
Punk can no doubt carry the company as the top face. He's so over.
Brady Marino
Footballguy
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Punk is over like mad (as a face or a heel), but he doesn't draw enough to be THE top good guy. Hell, they didn't even let him main event PPVs as the champ until very late in his 14-month title reign. Plus, with his smaller size and tats, he just doesn't have the look to be the top face like Cena, Rock, Austin or Hogan.
Having said that, Punk is entertaining as hell and pretty much the only reason why I am still a part-time watcher of the "sport."
Having said that, Punk is entertaining as hell and pretty much the only reason why I am still a part-time watcher of the "sport."
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Tony Jabroni
Footballguy
And your new world heavyweight champion is....Dolph Ziggler. Cashed in the MITB on an injured Del Rio. 
Brady Marino
Footballguy
On a separate note, this crowd tonight is like an Attitude Era crowd.
Gawain
Footballguy
I understand why the WWE wanted to bring Rock back and I understand why he would gladly take their money, but the whole arc left me feeling more meh than anything else.On a separate note, this crowd tonight is like an Attitude Era crowd.
It was Face-Face for so long, forced them to turn CM Punk with two mega faces kicking around and didn't really give us any high quality matches. Rock and Lesnar just show the dangers of relying on part-timers to generate great story lines.
Charlie Frown
Footballguy
About damn time!And your new world heavyweight champion is....Dolph Ziggler. Cashed in the MITB on an injured Del Rio.
William Munny
Footballguy
What's with the crowd? Were they chanting RVD?
Brady Marino
Footballguy
They're stealing the show tonight. Love it (compared to the usual apathy that comes with WWE crowds nowadays).
Tony Jabroni
Footballguy
William Munny
Footballguy
Very funny humming along with the Fandango music
wazoo11
Footballguy
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
The crowd tonight made FAWN-DAWN-GO a star.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wtg2tFygKiE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcMJi1JUczE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wtg2tFygKiE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcMJi1JUczE
Just awesome. The crowd was the story last night, maybe the best I've ever heard. Chanting "bs" when they mentioned Rock's injury, crapping all over the Sheamus-Randy Orton match with chants of everyone including Randy Savage, the Fandango thing, etc.
Here is a link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsBOiNAYWtM
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Clorox
Footballguy
I was in NY/NJ for all of it. Wrestlemania was an amazing spectacle in terms of the sheer size of crowd and stage/ring set up. None of the matches were bad, but the results were all predictable. Still was awesome to be there. The whole weekend was ridiculously fun.
Now Raw, on the other hand, wow. I've been going to shows since 1992 and last night was off the hook, probably the best crowd I've ever seen period. Raw was more fun than Wrestlemania. It was like 16,000 smart marks there. Just sensational. I really hope they can keep some momentum but I fear that was the exception to the rule based on how stale the product is.
One other thing...I went to WrestleCon on Sunday afternoon. Lots of former stars there. Some looked good...Scott Steiner, Matt Hardy, RVD, Maryse, Beth Phoenix, DDP, Mickie James, Tony Atlas, Hacksaw, and Lita off the top of my head. Some looked so, so sad...Raven, Brutus Beefcake, Greg Valentine, Bobby Heenan (can't believe he was there), Iron Sheik, and Terri Runnels (wow did she look bad). It was like a scene from "The Wrestler." And then there was Virgil...lonely Virgil in the corner. I don't know what happened to him, nice guy, thought he was teaching in Pittsburgh, but now I see he's showing up in random places selling autographs for $5. Depressing.
Now Raw, on the other hand, wow. I've been going to shows since 1992 and last night was off the hook, probably the best crowd I've ever seen period. Raw was more fun than Wrestlemania. It was like 16,000 smart marks there. Just sensational. I really hope they can keep some momentum but I fear that was the exception to the rule based on how stale the product is.
One other thing...I went to WrestleCon on Sunday afternoon. Lots of former stars there. Some looked good...Scott Steiner, Matt Hardy, RVD, Maryse, Beth Phoenix, DDP, Mickie James, Tony Atlas, Hacksaw, and Lita off the top of my head. Some looked so, so sad...Raven, Brutus Beefcake, Greg Valentine, Bobby Heenan (can't believe he was there), Iron Sheik, and Terri Runnels (wow did she look bad). It was like a scene from "The Wrestler." And then there was Virgil...lonely Virgil in the corner. I don't know what happened to him, nice guy, thought he was teaching in Pittsburgh, but now I see he's showing up in random places selling autographs for $5. Depressing.
Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub
Footballguy
Heard this as well. Thought he was teaching in Pittsburgh also.
I saw Heenan a year (maybe two now?) and you wouldn't even recognize the guy anymore.
I saw Heenan a year (maybe two now?) and you wouldn't even recognize the guy anymore.
