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So you bought high?Traded for this guy after eating my crow after week 1!
So you bought high?Traded for this guy after eating my crow after week 1!
IMO it goes Graham > Cameron > JT >>> everyone else.TE2 after Graham?
not sure you can say that after what cameron did. I think id still put gronk ahead of him too at this point. But yeah, somewhere between 2-4TE2 after Graham?
At this point I would say Cameron is a WR2 in that format, same with Julius. I would start them over my WR3 every time.Really trying to ascertain the value of Thomas and Cameron in 3WR, 1 flex, non PPR, non TE mandatory league. Both of these guys are going OFF
Lol... unless Gronk returns and breaks his back hes gonna finish TE2, and might even finish TE1 still. Pats are hurting.In FF the TE pecking order is GRAHAM--------Cameron-----Gonk-------------------------------------------------------------JT,
I would switch Gronk and Cameron, but have no issues with the way you ranked it. At this point we are ranking Gronk on potential. If he's 100% healthy I could see him outscoring all TE's PPG. My biggest problem with Julius Thomas is the fact that Denver has so many mouths to feed.In FF the TE pecking order is GRAHAM--------Cameron-----Gonk-------------------------------------------------------------JT
I'm sorry but there is no way in hell that gronk will catch Graham.At this point I would say Cameron is a WR2 in that format, same with Julius. I would start them over my WR3 every time.Really trying to ascertain the value of Thomas and Cameron in 3WR, 1 flex, non PPR, non TE mandatory league. Both of these guys are going OFF
Lol... unless Gronk returns and breaks his back hes gonna finish TE2, and might even finish TE1 still. Pats are hurting.In FF the TE pecking order is GRAHAM--------Cameron-----Gonk-------------------------------------------------------------JT,
Okay?I'm sorry but there is no way in hell that gronk will catch Graham.At this point I would say Cameron is a WR2 in that format, same with Julius. I would start them over my WR3 every time.Really trying to ascertain the value of Thomas and Cameron in 3WR, 1 flex, non PPR, non TE mandatory league. Both of these guys are going OFF
Lol... unless Gronk returns and breaks his back hes gonna finish TE2, and might even finish TE1 still. Pats are hurting.In FF the TE pecking order is GRAHAM--------Cameron-----Gonk-------------------------------------------------------------JT,
I don't, its entirely possible Gronk can make up 3 games worth of Graham, its not likely but its possible. Better TE, worse offense.As long as we are agree I'm good.
Gronk has out produced him EVERY year if im not mistaken, I think he can do more than match.Gronk can match Graham's PPG but not likely total points.
was he? I saw green at TEBack out there. Thank god
I wouldn't trade any of the 3 for Gronk this year.At this point I would say Cameron is a WR2 in that format, same with Julius. I would start them over my WR3 every time.Really trying to ascertain the value of Thomas and Cameron in 3WR, 1 flex, non PPR, non TE mandatory league. Both of these guys are going OFF
Lol... unless Gronk returns and breaks his back hes gonna finish TE2, and might even finish TE1 still. Pats are hurting.In FF the TE pecking order is GRAHAM--------Cameron-----Gonk-------------------------------------------------------------JT,
AP blew out his knee and was the leading rusher less than a year later, Gronk is coming off nothing anywhere near as serious as that.I wouldn't trade any of the 3 for Gronk this year.At this point I would say Cameron is a WR2 in that format, same with Julius. I would start them over my WR3 every time.Really trying to ascertain the value of Thomas and Cameron in 3WR, 1 flex, non PPR, non TE mandatory league. Both of these guys are going OFF
Lol... unless Gronk returns and breaks his back hes gonna finish TE2, and might even finish TE1 still. Pats are hurting.In FF the TE pecking order is GRAHAM--------Cameron-----Gonk-------------------------------------------------------------JT,
Gronk is coming of back surgery and 3 or 4 forearm surgeries ... people expecting him to be the same player are nutz.
Back surgery is as bad and maybe worse than knee surgery. 4 forearm surgeries is really bad. He hasn't been able to work out and is not in football shape, he has surely lost some strength and mobility, that and not having a a preseason makes him more likely to get injuredAP blew out his knee and was the leading rusher less than a year later, Gronk is coming off nothing anywhere near as serious as that.I wouldn't trade any of the 3 for Gronk this year.At this point I would say Cameron is a WR2 in that format, same with Julius. I would start them over my WR3 every time.Really trying to ascertain the value of Thomas and Cameron in 3WR, 1 flex, non PPR, non TE mandatory league. Both of these guys are going OFF
Lol... unless Gronk returns and breaks his back hes gonna finish TE2, and might even finish TE1 still. Pats are hurting.In FF the TE pecking order is GRAHAM--------Cameron-----Gonk-------------------------------------------------------------JT,
Gronk is coming of back surgery and 3 or 4 forearm surgeries ... people expecting him to be the same player are nutz.
You dare compare a mere mortal to AP?AP blew out his knee and was the leading rusher less than a year later, Gronk is coming off nothing anywhere near as serious as that.I wouldn't trade any of the 3 for Gronk this year.At this point I would say Cameron is a WR2 in that format, same with Julius. I would start them over my WR3 every time.Really trying to ascertain the value of Thomas and Cameron in 3WR, 1 flex, non PPR, non TE mandatory league. Both of these guys are going OFF
Lol... unless Gronk returns and breaks his back hes gonna finish TE2, and might even finish TE1 still. Pats are hurting.In FF the TE pecking order is GRAHAM--------Cameron-----Gonk-------------------------------------------------------------JT,
Gronk is coming of back surgery and 3 or 4 forearm surgeries ... people expecting him to be the same player are nutz.
So maybe gronk will become the leading rusher?AP blew out his knee and was the leading rusher less than a year later, Gronk is coming off nothing anywhere near as serious as that.I wouldn't trade any of the 3 for Gronk this year.At this point I would say Cameron is a WR2 in that format, same with Julius. I would start them over my WR3 every time.Really trying to ascertain the value of Thomas and Cameron in 3WR, 1 flex, non PPR, non TE mandatory league. Both of these guys are going OFF
Lol... unless Gronk returns and breaks his back hes gonna finish TE2, and might even finish TE1 still. Pats are hurting.In FF the TE pecking order is GRAHAM--------Cameron-----Gonk-------------------------------------------------------------JT,
Gronk is coming of back surgery and 3 or 4 forearm surgeries ... people expecting him to be the same player are nutz.
He's had a month to practice and get into football shape now. It's not like he's walking right out of surgery and onto the field. Gronk had the same surgery before, and still turned out to be the stud he is. There's definately risk in taking him, but people saying he can't be the same are nuts.Back surgery is as bad and maybe worse than knee surgery. 4 forearm surgeries is really bad. He hasn't been able to work out and is not in football shape, he has surely lost some strength and mobility, that and not having a a preseason makes him more likely to get injuredAP blew out his knee and was the leading rusher less than a year later, Gronk is coming off nothing anywhere near as serious as that.I wouldn't trade any of the 3 for Gronk this year.At this point I would say Cameron is a WR2 in that format, same with Julius. I would start them over my WR3 every time.Really trying to ascertain the value of Thomas and Cameron in 3WR, 1 flex, non PPR, non TE mandatory league. Both of these guys are going OFF
Lol... unless Gronk returns and breaks his back hes gonna finish TE2, and might even finish TE1 still. Pats are hurting.In FF the TE pecking order is GRAHAM--------Cameron-----Gonk-------------------------------------------------------------JT,
Gronk is coming of back surgery and 3 or 4 forearm surgeries ... people expecting him to be the same player are nutz.
That was DT.Anyways, back to Orange Julius. Anyone else see him look at the kicker and say "haha" after he caught the onside kick? Dudes a stud.
Wrong ThomasAnyways, back to Orange Julius. Anyone else see him look at the kicker and say "haha" after he caught the onside kick? Dudes a stud.
Yep, had to rewind it. My bad. Regardless, back to Julius...That was DT.Anyways, back to Orange Julius. Anyone else see him look at the kicker and say "haha" after he caught the onside kick? Dudes a stud.
OJT doesn't look like a stud to me. He looks like a big, slow, athletic TE who is surrounded by phenomenal weapons and has Peyton Manning throwing him the pill. Just me though.The only thing that worries me is if he doesn't get that TD, then we are looking at a relatively weak points total this week (and maybe even last). Very glad he got the call once again. We need Denver to start playing some opponents that can either keep up with the score, or simply not let Denver score all their points in the first half. I want to see them having to throw it all game.
Other than Graham or Gronk, thats usually the case with most TEs. Again, hes not on their level which is why I still think Id rank Gronk over him.The only thing that worries me is if he doesn't get that TD, then we are looking at a relatively weak points total this week (and maybe even last). Very glad he got the call once again. We need Denver to start playing some opponents that can either keep up with the score, or simply not let Denver score all their points in the first half. I want to see them having to throw it all game.
So is he slow or athletic? And big is a bad thing?OJT doesn't look like a stud to me. He looks like a big, slow, athletic TE who is surrounded by phenomenal weapons and has Peyton Manning throwing him the pill. Just me though.The only thing that worries me is if he doesn't get that TD, then we are looking at a relatively weak points total this week (and maybe even last). Very glad he got the call once again. We need Denver to start playing some opponents that can either keep up with the score, or simply not let Denver score all their points in the first half. I want to see them having to throw it all game.
Slow and athletic. That is possible, Einstein. He's big, not a bad thing at all. What's your point?Other than Graham or Gronk, thats usually the case with most TEs. Again, hes not on their level which is why I still think Id rank Gronk over him.The only thing that worries me is if he doesn't get that TD, then we are looking at a relatively weak points total this week (and maybe even last). Very glad he got the call once again. We need Denver to start playing some opponents that can either keep up with the score, or simply not let Denver score all their points in the first half. I want to see them having to throw it all game.
So is he slow or athletic? And big is a bad thing?OJT doesn't look like a stud to me. He looks like a big, slow, athletic TE who is surrounded by phenomenal weapons and has Peyton Manning throwing him the pill. Just me though.The only thing that worries me is if he doesn't get that TD, then we are looking at a relatively weak points total this week (and maybe even last). Very glad he got the call once again. We need Denver to start playing some opponents that can either keep up with the score, or simply not let Denver score all their points in the first half. I want to see them having to throw it all game.
Your post sounded like a negative assessment of OJT. I'm thinking Shady was just looking for you to clarify. "Einstein?" Really??Slow and athletic. That is possible, Einstein. He's big, not a bad thing at all. What's your point?Other than Graham or Gronk, thats usually the case with most TEs. Again, hes not on their level which is why I still think Id rank Gronk over him.The only thing that worries me is if he doesn't get that TD, then we are looking at a relatively weak points total this week (and maybe even last). Very glad he got the call once again. We need Denver to start playing some opponents that can either keep up with the score, or simply not let Denver score all their points in the first half. I want to see them having to throw it all game.
So is he slow or athletic? And big is a bad thing?OJT doesn't look like a stud to me. He looks like a big, slow, athletic TE who is surrounded by phenomenal weapons and has Peyton Manning throwing him the pill. Just me though.The only thing that worries me is if he doesn't get that TD, then we are looking at a relatively weak points total this week (and maybe even last). Very glad he got the call once again. We need Denver to start playing some opponents that can either keep up with the score, or simply not let Denver score all their points in the first half. I want to see them having to throw it all game.
My bad.Your post sounded like a negative assessment of OJT. I'm thinking Shady was just looking for you to clarify. "Einstein?" Really??Slow and athletic. That is possible, Einstein. He's big, not a bad thing at all. What's your point?Other than Graham or Gronk, thats usually the case with most TEs. Again, hes not on their level which is why I still think Id rank Gronk over him.The only thing that worries me is if he doesn't get that TD, then we are looking at a relatively weak points total this week (and maybe even last). Very glad he got the call once again. We need Denver to start playing some opponents that can either keep up with the score, or simply not let Denver score all their points in the first half. I want to see them having to throw it all game.
So is he slow or athletic? And big is a bad thing?OJT doesn't look like a stud to me. He looks like a big, slow, athletic TE who is surrounded by phenomenal weapons and has Peyton Manning throwing him the pill. Just me though.The only thing that worries me is if he doesn't get that TD, then we are looking at a relatively weak points total this week (and maybe even last). Very glad he got the call once again. We need Denver to start playing some opponents that can either keep up with the score, or simply not let Denver score all their points in the first half. I want to see them having to throw it all game.
Still on pace for 1,034 receiving yards.munygon2 said:The only thing that worries me is if he doesn't get that TD, then we are looking at a relatively weak points total this week (and maybe even last). Very glad he got the call once again. We need Denver to start playing some opponents that can either keep up with the score, or simply not let Denver score all their points in the first half. I want to see them having to throw it all game.
he wasnt injured. left the field for two plays and came back inStill on pace for 1,034 receiving yards.munygon2 said:The only thing that worries me is if he doesn't get that TD, then we are looking at a relatively weak points total this week (and maybe even last). Very glad he got the call once again. We need Denver to start playing some opponents that can either keep up with the score, or simply not let Denver score all their points in the first half. I want to see them having to throw it all game.
Any word yet on the "injury"?
CBS has an injury designation. I'm sure it's precautionary. I'm not really worried, just wondered what happened.he wasnt injured. left the field for two plays and came back inStill on pace for 1,034 receiving yards.munygon2 said:The only thing that worries me is if he doesn't get that TD, then we are looking at a relatively weak points total this week (and maybe even last). Very glad he got the call once again. We need Denver to start playing some opponents that can either keep up with the score, or simply not let Denver score all their points in the first half. I want to see them having to throw it all game.
Any word yet on the "injury"?
Oh, and 21 TD's.Still on pace for 1,034 receiving yards.munygon2 said:The only thing that worries me is if he doesn't get that TD, then we are looking at a relatively weak points total this week (and maybe even last). Very glad he got the call once again. We need Denver to start playing some opponents that can either keep up with the score, or simply not let Denver score all their points in the first half. I want to see them having to throw it all game.
Any word yet on the "injury"?