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WR Josh Gordon, KC (2 Viewers)
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cmv5
Footballguy
And what would you call what you do any time anybody dares to question Gordon's character? Hoyer was there last year with Gordon. Gordon has to take some responsibility for this season. His track record has to be factored in. No matter how much you protest it.Jerry Curl said:
Sabertooth
Footballguy
In fairness, he gives them a lot of chances. I can't remember the last time the Jordy Nelson haters were out in full force.Jerry Curl said:
Bruce Hammond
Footballguy
I'm surprised no one has mentioned SF as a trade possibility. They are losing Crabtree, Boldin is older than I am (OK, maybe not...), and Baalke has no head coach to get in his way of bringing in a potential head case / locker room cancer. Baalke thinks he walks on water and would likely see himself as the guy who could 'fix' Gordon's immaturity problems. They have draft picks to deal too.
One thing is as sure as my amazing good looks, and that is Gordon will not be in Cleveland next year.
One thing is as sure as my amazing good looks, and that is Gordon will not be in Cleveland next year.
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Jerry Curl
Footballguy
He cant be on any worse of a team. How is this not a good thing for Gordon and his owners?
massraider
Footballguy
Bruce Hammond
Footballguy
It probably is a good thing. Maybe some team can hire a $50,000/yr full time babysitter for the guy so he shows up for things and stays out of trouble. Since I'm not a believer in Johnny Headcase, probably 3/4 or more of the QB situations he could land in would be better, and a fresh start with an organization who isn't sick of him has to be better.
Let me add that I'm not one of his apoIogists and I think he is likely to fail again, and he's a man child who may never get it. I'm just saying there should be no doubt about whether he's staying or leaving. CLE wants no part of him.
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trader jake
Footballguy
Sabertooth
Footballguy
His value is about as low as can be right now. I hope he goes someplace else and pulls a Cris Carter on his career. He can obviously play. He needs to go to a place like Green Bay, New England or New Orleans with strong QB leadership. I think he needs a fresh start far away. Green Bay makes a lot of sense actually. I'm not sure they'd want him though to be quite honest unless they were definitely losing Cobb.
Stealthycat
Footballguy
only 1 person can change Gordon - Gordon
if he likes his weed more than an NFL career - that's his choice
I mean, any of us typing here would have a tough time choosing a huge contract to play in the NFL and smoking weed, right? I mean, its a very hard choice, isn't it ?
if he likes his weed more than an NFL career - that's his choice
I mean, any of us typing here would have a tough time choosing a huge contract to play in the NFL and smoking weed, right? I mean, its a very hard choice, isn't it ?
BTW, Rotoworld really living up to their "good info, horrible editorializing" rep with respect to this whole Browns situation. Here's what they wrote about Manziel:
Here's what they wrote about Gilbert:
OK, got it. When talented players who disappoint on the field also can't keep their lives straight off of it, they're entirely to blame for their own predicament. So surely they'll unload with both barrels on Gordon, right? Or not:
The thing is, I don't entirely disagree with either analysis. I also don't expect that the same guy writes all of RW's blurbs, and maybe whoever's writing Gordon's has a full-on robot chubby for him (SoulFly? Is that you?) But you'd think there might be one editor there who would flag that and realize they're saying entirely contradictory things.
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Jerry Curl
Footballguy
I must have missed the memo where the Browns have a great reputation of creating superstar talent.
Skeletore Eh
Footballguy
Yes, the $50,000 a year babysitter will do what a $50,000,000 contract couldn't, keep josh Gordon in line
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Minnesota and Norv Turner would take him I bet. 
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DropKick
Footballguy
Really? It's not like Gordon doesn't give them enough ammo.
And what is a Gordon hater? We've seen men throw way their career and waste incredible physical talents because they can't get their head on straight. Things like that get people's attention.
whiskey7
Footballguy
And the apologists never stop making excuses for/defending him
No, thanks.Minnesota and Norv Turner would take him I bet.
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The Man With No Name
Footballguy
Charles Johnson>>Josh GordonAnd the apologists never stop making excuses for/defending him
No, thanks.Minnesota and Norv Turner would take him I bet.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
SproutDaddy
Footballguy
Please take your Crowell man-love to its proper place.
MAC_32
Footballguy
This one stings the most.Charles Johnson>>Josh GordonAnd the apologists never stop making excuses for/defending him
No, thanks.Minnesota and Norv Turner would take him I bet.
massraider
Footballguy
No, you missed the memo where you have to show up to practice to get better.
This would be comical if it weren't so sad. The Browns take a shot on him in the draft, even after all his trouble. The Browns invest the draft pick, give him some money, and put him on the field.
The Browns then stand by him, after he screws up again. All season long, as the passing game falters, partly because the team thought they had a good WR lined up for 2015.
Gordon rewards them for their loyalty by jogging around the field for a few weeks, and then misses a practice.
Yeah, it's the Browns fault.
What a joke.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Just seen him traded in one of my dynasty leagues.
Gordon, Nicks 2015 1st and 2nd
For
Golden, Montcrief, 2015 3rd and 4th
Gordon, Nicks 2015 1st and 2nd
For
Golden, Montcrief, 2015 3rd and 4th
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I should have added the picks since we are done it is 1.08 and 2.08. 3.02 and 4.02
georg013
Footballguy
http://www.endzonescore.com/ranking-three-likely-trade-partners-josh-gordon/
Gordon owners: Sit tight!
His value will rise and you will be able to get much more if you want off the ride.
Gordon owners: Sit tight!
His value will rise and you will be able to get much more if you want off the ride.
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agree you cant possibly sell him in dynasty right now.... really hope he doesn't go to SF... indy or NE though...
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
This soap opera is the gift that keeps on giving
Faust
MVP
Mike Pettine: Browns at 'crossroads' with Josh Gordon
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000451496/article/mike-pettine-browns-at-crossroads-with-josh-gordon
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000451496/article/mike-pettine-browns-at-crossroads-with-josh-gordon
jurb26
Footballguy
This would be big.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Come to the Eagles. Come to the Eagles. Come to the eagles.
I would think NE would be the best landing point. Does anyone recall Moss in Oakland? In 2003, he had his best season ever with the Vikings, but he had just run over the parking lady and in 2004 he had a mediocre season outside of TDs. Then he got traded to Oakland and flamed out with 60-1005-8 in 16 games and 42-553-3 in 13 games. There was a lot of talk about him quitting on the Raiders before his monster season with NE.georg013 said:
I found one hysterical article about how it was OK that he quit on the Raiders: LINK Love the author, she was the one that wrote the article from Janay Rice "in her own words" trying to setup why Ray hit her. LOL. I guess she is the one you call if you are an athlete and want to do damage control and explain your side of the story after all the bad press.
That said, if NE can do what it did for Moss, then I would think Gordon's best bet is to go there.
Anyone think that Rosehaus staged this to get him elsewhere in 2015 before free agency? Even if he was an UFA after 2015 versus a RFA, anyone think that having Hoyer/Manziel/Rookie as his QB on a run-first team where the coaching staff isn't enamored with him would have hurt his value more than going to a passing team where he could put up closer to 2013 numbers?
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mquinnjr
Footballguy
They hype machine that would bring, if he has a clean off-season, would be unparalleled by even the likes of soulfly.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Yes, please trade my player to the best fantasy producing team in the league.
cstu
Footballguy
massraider
Footballguy
No they wouldn't. Al Davis doesn't live here anymore.
McKenzie has made a point of avoiding character concerns, and has really only brought in good locker room guys and gym rats. The Browns this past year make a great example of what McKenzie is trying to avoid by doing this, and trading a pick, let alone a high one, for such an obvious dips**t is so out of character for this team that I really can't believe they would even have internal discussions about him.
They desperately need a WR, that much is true. And if they traded for Gordon, and he got suspended again, they would STILL desperately need a WR.
Obviously I can't say for sure, just my opinion, but nothing in the actions of the current front office suggest this is a possibility.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
I don't think the Raiders are a bad landing spot. Carrs legit imo. Better than the Jets.
James Daulton
Footballguy
He'd be perfect for the Ravens.
