Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
finito

Doug Baldwin

Recommended Posts

Quote

Doug Baldwin - WR -  Seahawks

The Seahawks have thrown the ball just 42.93 percent of the time over the last three weeks.

That's dead last in the pass-happy NFL. It's affecting Doug Baldwin in a big way, as he has just nine targets in three games and has turned those into six catches for 42 scoreless yards. Russell Wilson attempted just 21 passes last week in a shootout against the Rams, and it's having a big drain on his numbers as well. Wilson is currently the fantasy QB19 and isn't being allowed to scramble as much as years past. Meanwhile, Baldwin is growing increasingly frustrated and says his balky knee isn't to blame. After a one-catch for one-yard afternoon on one target against L.A., it's really hard to trust Baldwin in fantasy.

Source: Seattle Times 

Oct 9 - 10:01 PM

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The sucky part is that Baldwin is a guy that's hard to drop by anyone but the truly ballsy.

Yes, at this point he's completely unstartable. And his trade value is absolute zero -- and I mean that literally. Baldwin is at that state at which the enthalpy and entropy of his cooled-off game has reached their absolute minimum value.

But given that both Baldwin and Wilson have typically started slow and warmed up in the second half of the season, it would be hard to jettison Baldwin only to see him become productive down the stretch for your opponents. 

Don't get me wrong, at this point Baldwin looks useless, and there is tons of risk that may limit his potential all year -- the SEA pass offense looks solidly stuck between gears, and the fact that Baldwin came into the season ailing and is banged up even more means there is that much more of a chance that injury hampers his ability to contribute, let alone get back anywhere near his past form.

But I think we have no choice but to either drop or hold in the hopes he, Wilson, and the rest of the squad right their passing game. 

As for me, I'm not so gutsy as to drop him on the wire just yet.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 10/8/2018 at 11:57 AM, kyoun1e said:

1 target. 

UGH.

Anybody watch this game? What the heck is going on?

I know that the LAR's best cornerback is actually their slot guy (and I forget his name). Was he erased? Or was this a situation where a) Wilson just wasn't looking at him, and/or b) Baldwin couldn't gain any  separation because of his knee(s)?

I thought after last week he'd be highly involved in a game of catchup. Nope.

Probably a mix of your point about NRC and Hilts’ summary of the game. Plan appeared to be to run and they were making holes in the run game most of the day.

I haven’t seen the stats so I could be proven wrong, but I would imagine LAR is tough on slot guys both bc of who they have to defend the slot WR and who they have on the outside with Talib out.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Picked him up off the wire so only investment is a bench spot but was really expecting a whole lot more last week. ALMOST started him over Kupp/Landry. Safe to say he will remain on the bench for the foreseeable future. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Wanted to drop him today for Robby but didn’t pull the trigger.

  In the short term he has a soft matchup with Oakland, but then a bye, Slay, the chargers, and rams again.

long term he plays SF and KC weeks 15 & 16 which is the only reason he’s still on my bench. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, TimmyG said:

Wanted to drop him today for Robby but didn’t pull the trigger.

  In the short term he has a soft matchup with Oakland, but then a bye, Slay, the chargers, and rams again.

long term he plays SF and KC weeks 15 & 16 which is the only reason he’s still on my bench. 

Probably the right call. Baldwin played 88% of his team's snaps vs. 52% for Robby. Also, I'll take targets from Wilson over targets from Darnold. 

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I played against Baldwin last week so I watch that game closely like many. He was out there a lot and is a fantastic blocker but 1 target? 1 yard? I expected bad but that bad? That is an anomaly if I have ever seen it. Sometimes that happens to even the very best players in the game let a lone someone coming back from bad knees. People not going to see my point but thats kind of the point of how it hits the very best...the year Barry ran for 2k, he started off running for 53 yards total in the first 2 games before rushing for 100+ in every other game. He also ran for 1 yard on 5 carries in a random game his rookie year. Baldwin is no Barry and never will be, but goes to the point that the very best even suffer from strange random anomalys. 1 catch for 1 yard on 1 target playing 88% of snaps? The run was working and we now teams stick with what is working.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If Baldwin's owner in your league is on the verge of cutting him he feels like a buy (very) low to me.

There is tons of negative sentiment about his injuries but he actually looks healthy on the field. Seattle's conservative offense is definitely hindering him but he's really only played 2 games. That's way too small of a sample to greatly adjust his value. Also I'm not sure Seattle will be able to maintain such a run heavy offense moving forward.

Get him dirt cheap and keep him on the bench for now. He could be a great option later if he reverts back to his normal targets and usage.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Quote

Doug Baldwin (knee) was limited at Wednesday's practice.

Baldwin's knee has been an issue all year, though he's mostly played through it. With Tyler Lockett and David Moore hogging most of the Seahawks' red-zone targets, Baldwin makes for an uninspiring WR3. He gets the Chargers at home in Week 9.

Source: John Boyle on Twitter 

Oct 31 - 7:37 PM

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

His target share is fine. The problem is Seattle hasn't needed to throw. Wilson is throwing 20 times a game and they're winning. Maybe this week against the Chargers pushes then to start passing a lot more. If Wilson's attempts go up I think Baldwin will be the primary beneficiary. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I can’t have any setbacks this week...itsbye week Armageddon already...may as well just chalk up an L anyway.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, C-Bound said:

I'm sooooo close to dropping him but I admit his name and where I drafted him (3rd) is giving me pause.

I'm with you here. So close to dropping him as well. His stats have been nothing, but every site I check for ROS rankings they have him in the 25-30 range. I'm just not seeing it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, KingPrawn said:

I'm with you here. So close to dropping him as well. His stats have been nothing, but every site I check for ROS rankings they have him in the 25-30 range. I'm just not seeing it.

They think russell is gonna come on in the second half. we will see..

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, Hilts said:

Maybe this week against the Chargers pushes then to start passing a lot more

They probably will pass more, but the Chargers have good corners. In particular, slot corner Des King is one of the best in the league, and he will probably match up a lot against Baldwin since Baldwin plays about 65% of his snaps in the slot.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm done with him.  Shipped him and a 2019 6th round pick to a tanking 0-8 team in a 12 person, 2 keeper league for Watkins, Chicago D, and a 2019 11th.

I need wins now to stay in the playoff hunt.... and when I made the trade I thought Tyreek was going to be out 1-3 weeks...?

Edited by ahartig

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm starting Baldwin with confidence in the one dynasty league where I own him.

 

Oh wait, should I mention that I'm in last place in that league and gunning for the 1.1 draft slot, so Baldwin is the perfect "he's tanking but not obviously tanking" kind of starting WR that I'm looking for.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Dammit. Was hoping for a clean start -- otherwise will have to rely on Amari Cooper, and/or adding a third D off the wire to potentially get more than BAL or NYJ might (such as DAL) -- every point matters in the race for the playoffs.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, ahartig said:

I'm done with him.  Shipped him and a 2019 6th round pick to a tanking 0-8 team in a 2 person keeper league for Watkins, Chicago D, and a 2019 11th.

I need wins now to stay in the playoff hunt.... and when I made the trade I thought Tyreek was going to be out 1-3 weeks...?

You should be OK in a 2 person league when the other owner is tanking.

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm so happy I cut bait with Baldwin. Earlier in this post I mentioned I traded him for Bilal Powell. Well after week 6 I traded Powell and A. Robinson for J. Reed and L. Miller. Only 2 trades in a league that only averages 1 per 4 years. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Happened to end up on my dynasty/keeper team as a throw in a trade, now I'm trying to figure out what to do with him. Don't care much about ROS, but do you guys think he's got something left in the tank once he can get healthy in the offseason or has he fallen off a cliff? Hard to tell if it's age and or just the knee. 

Edited by Conan Troutman

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, Conan Troutman said:

Happened to end up on my dynasty/keeper team as a throw in a trade, now I'm trying to figure out what to do with him. Don't care much about ROS, but do you guys think he's got something left in the tank once he can get healthy in the offseason or has he fallen off a cliff? Hard to tell if it's age and or just the knee. 

In dynasty, I don't see Baldwin as anything more than a "hold". He was consistently a "solid" WR2 for the past few years, so I think we need to see the rest of this year if it's an injury recovery thing, or a true fallen off a cliff thing. He'll be dangerously close to the cut line in August in my Keep-12 league.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Quote

Doug Baldwin (groin) did not practice Wednesday.

It's a new injury for Baldwin after he'd previously been on injury reports with a knee issue. Baldwin played his normal allotment (89%) of snaps last week against the Chargers, nabbing all four of his targets for 77 yards. As of now, we're going to assume this is nothing much and wait for a Thursday update.

Nov 7 - 7:14 PM

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Guy might be a ww casualty to cover Gostkowski’s bye week next week. 

Woth OBJ, Boyd, Ridley, and MVS...Baldwin saw my lineup only this past week to cover byes...not sure he sees my lineup again and I may even get him back.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
13 hours ago, Faust said:

Doug Baldwin (groin) did not practice Wednesday.

It's a new injury for Baldwin after he'd previously been on injury reports with a knee issue. Baldwin played his normal allotment (89%) of snaps last week against the Chargers, nabbing all four of his targets for 77 yards. As of now, we're going to assume this is nothing much and wait for a Thursday update.

Nov 7 - 7:14 PM

So, he has issues in both knees, an offense that barely throws the ball, and now a groin injury to boot?

Honestly, I think he may now be in the "safe to drop outright" category.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Quote

Doug Baldwin - WR -  Seahawks

Doug Baldwin (groin) will play in Week 10 against the Rams.

Baldwin was promptly removed from Seattle's injury report on Friday and is good to go on Sunday against the Rams. Teams have typically exploited the Rams' defense on the outside, which spells a better afternoon for Tyler Lockett and David Moore. Even so, Baldwin should garner volume if this divisional tilt becomes a high-scoring affair. He's a high-end WR3 in Los Angeles Sunday.

Source: John Boyle on Twitter 

Nov 9 - 4:34 PM

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

How are we feeling about our Dougie? Supposedly painless for the first time in a long time and Wilson is finally looking like the QB1 of old. 

Think we can see their chemistry start to hit its stride down the stretch for the FF playoffs?

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
32 minutes ago, ATB said:

How are we feeling about our Dougie? Supposedly painless for the first time in a long time and Wilson is finally looking like the QB1 of old. 

Think we can see their chemistry start to hit its stride down the stretch for the FF playoffs?

Wish there was some kind of logic why he would perform well vs. other WRs out of the slot tonight. Waffling between him and C. Carson right now.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Baldwin looking good out there -- speedy, sharp cuts, getting looked for. Good to see that he isn't looking as tentative or seemingly limited by knees etc.

As an aside, I've watched Baldwin for years -- surprised to only realize now how fairly undersized a receiver he is. Listed as 5'11 189 but have a feeling he's shorter and lighter than that.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

He has been open and looked good so far (other than going backwards in a short pass rather than getting a first down).

I ended up dropping him to cover Gostikowskis bye...I may be able to get him back...but may be looking at a injury handcuff like Spencer’s Ware. (Have Beckham, Boyd, Ridley, and Valdez-Scantling).  Another MVS dud and he could be my drop for Baldwin to return if he keeps looking good.

And Wilson is targeting Baldwin a lot.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 minutes ago, shadyridr said:

Picked him up and started him at flex!

On my bench but it's good to see him with 8 targets in the 1st half. Hope we can get that the rest of the season 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 11/8/2018 at 8:01 AM, Man In The Box said:

Having this guy and Fournette on the same team has been an absolute joyride :X

Same boat, friend.

Both are far from the world beaters we hoped they'd be coming into the season, and I think they continue to be solid but not elite ROS, but the worm seems to have turned for us, good buddy.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 hours ago, Stompin' Tom Connors said:

Same boat, friend.

Both are far from the world beaters we hoped they'd be coming into the season, and I think they continue to be solid but not elite ROS, but the worm seems to have turned for us, good buddy.

Probably too late for me. Benched him for MVS in a must win vs the first place juggernaut. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Quote

Doug Baldwin caught 7-of-10 targets for 52 yards and a touchdown in the Seahawks' Week 11 win over the Packers.

Baldwin finally scored his first touchdown of the season, but it was not easy. Baldwin was wide open for a 21-yard score in the first quarter, but Russell Wilson flat missed him. The two then narrowly failed to connect in the end zone on a six-yarder in the second quarter before finally getting it right on the next play. Tonight was Baldwin's first 10-target game of the season. That won't happen often in the Seahawks' run-heavy offense, though Baldwin has now cleared five catches in back-to-back games. He will be a WR3 for Week 12 against the Panthers.

 

Edited by The Frankman

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, The Frankman said:

 

11.20 standard league last night. 

Not a bad night, at all. Helped my fantasy team out on bye week for the Pats.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm glad I held onto him. This is the kind of game I was hoping for when I traded for him. 8 targets midway through the 2nd quarter! It wasn't like this game was really a shootout either, pretty close the entire time. Only 2 targets in the 2nd half was a little frustrating but I can definitely see him making a decent bounce back the rest of the season. Sure, they play SF twice which may end up being snoozers. Besides that they have Carolina and Minnesota who can both score pts through the air, then comes week 16 against...KANSAS CITY!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.