Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
Welcome to Our Forums. Once you've registered and logged in, you're primed to talk football, among other topics, with the sharpest and most experienced fantasy players on the internet.
QB Cam Newton, CAR (3 Viewers)
- Thread starter rickyg
- Start date
need2know
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
Dre 3K sets standards that Cam only traverses in, true, true.
But I love Cam's effort and his flair for a sporting dude.
Last edited by a moderator:
Chaka
Footballguy
pantherclub
Footballguy
cam. done
Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
Cam sank me to 0-2 (both single-digit losses) but thankfully I was able to grab Wilson before this week's rash of new QB injuries. So much for that "top 5 upside."
cobalt_27
Footballguy
Last edited by a moderator:
pantherclub
Footballguy
tank for tua in play
pantherclub
Footballguy
Not really. Way too many teams that are way worse than Carolina. Frankly, Newton might benefit from a week or 2 off anyway. He probably shouldn't have played the last 2 weeks if he wasn't over the foot injury.
Will Grier is a very interesting prospect, he's got a very good arm, and excellent accuracy, but also played in a spread offense in college. I don't know that he can run Newton's offense(though they haven't really been running it to full strength anyway, without Cam's legs) but he can absolutely succeed in a timing based offense. Grier is similar to Mason Rudolph, where the tape said 1st round pick, but the offensive style made teams nervous.
All that said, I'm not sure Grier is ahead of Kyle Allen yet. Allen looked competent in 1 start last year after Cam went on IR.
I think I could complete passes against the Cardinals, so either would would be set up for success, as Cam will be if he does end up playing.
I have no use for players who are all about "look at me". He looked like an idiot after that game in the press conference...."I know I played the worse game ever but look how good I look now". He doesn't care about winning. Could you imagine Brady, Brees, or Manning dressing like that(Obviously they couldn't pull it off...maybe Fitzmagic). My point is I'm sick of the "look at me Facebook diva's.
pantherclub
Footballguy
Then the season is kaput. We are not winning with Allen or Greir. My buddy in charlotte says there is talk on the radio about Cap. I really hope that isnt the case
Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
Just remembered that I also have both Moore and Samuel rostered. Things are not good.
Kaep couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. He's basically a glorified RB. Worse passer than Cam if that's possible. lol PLUS he brings a PR nightmare and a huge distraction.
Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
Dude who drafted him dropped him for Terry McLaurin.
ffmail4me
Footballguy
Anyone have this feeling that Cam is likely to retire by year's end (if not sooner?) He just seems like he doesn't have ANY passion for the game anymore. He used to be so animated and emotional (whether happy when they were winning or upset when they were losing) and now....he just seems like he doesn't care. Like he's more interested in raiding his Grandmother's wardrobe than playing football.
Todem
Footballguy
I saw it last Thursday night. He looked totally un-interested in playing football. A shell of his former self. I realize he is hurt. But the injuries and beatings he took after his Super Bowl appearance appear to have taken it's toll.
I think he is done and will retire after this season. Just a feeling. I see zero passion with him playing right now. He has a ton of $$$....I think he is done.
Brandon Will
Footballguy
I offered Juju and Cam for Mahomes and the owner told me "No thankyou, you can keep 'Grandma Blue Bonnet'."
pantherclub
Footballguy
Brandon Will
Footballguy
matttyl
Footballguy
Why not? The other QBs from his class were Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder, Dalton, Kaepernick, Ryan Mallet, Ricky Stanzi, TJ Yates, and Tyrod Taylor. Heck, the first QB picks of the NEXT draft were Luck, RG3, Tannehill and Weeden and Cam outlasted all of them (as a starter, or even as an NFL player). The top QBs in the following draft were EJ Manuel and Geno Smith, and ones been out of the league for 2 years now and the other has less than 100 pass attempts total the last 4 seasons. Even the top QB 3 years after Cam's draft, Blake Bortles, was never worth it and is no longer a starter, and not due to health - while the other two first round QBs that draft were Manziel and Teddy B.lod001 said:
If you can get a franchise altering QB with a single first round pick (who eventually takes you to a Super Bowl), you do it 10 times out of 10 no questions asked.
Wrigley
Footballguy
TheWinz
Footballguy
Wrigley
Footballguy
TheWinz
Footballguy
I am suggesting he hasn't been healthy since the start of the season, and Rivera already knows he's going to bench Newton
TheWinz
Footballguy
Manster
Footballguy
He's been a dynamic talent, but without the running threat, he's not a good enough passer. The hits are catching up with him
Right, but that doesn't matter when discussing his value to the Panthers since 2011. He's easily one of the top-10 players of this decade.
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
This I how I feel. I don't think he'll be interested in many more surgeries. If Panthers go 4 or 5 wins this year, I wouldn't be surprised if he retired and tried to start a career in Hollywood. Seems like the type to me.
Manster
Footballguy
Meh....he's had moments, but time and again, he is inaccurate. 59% comp. rate and and 86 career passer rating....pretty mediocre, especially in todays pass crazy league...again, his rushing made him dynamic, but he's 30, and he's toast.
sirsydney
Footballguy
Yenrub
Footballguy
I was responding to the ridiculous post that suggested the Panther's should not have used the #1 overall pick on him
JetMaxx
Footballguy
Manster
Footballguy
Yea, I do agree with you based on the other QB's in the class, but getting a cornerstone defensive player or LT, and waiting for a year on QB maybe would've been better, I dunno.....just not a fan of the guy.
Wise Old Owl
Footballguy
Basically Cam has been good for several years and obviously returned great value as a first overall pick and his detractors have been biding their time til he struggles to do their victory laps. They are quick to say that him being a running qb lead to injuries when injuries easily derailed other highly drafted QBs like Luck, Griffin, Mariota, Locker and Bradford. No one really blames them for their injuries in the same way.
rockaction
Footballguy
I think people just don't like Cam personally. He's been a good QB and led his team to a Super Bowl where he ran into a dominant, almost historic defense. He doesn't really deserve the stuff he takes from the average fan. It's too bad.
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
Top 10 QB's or top 10 players? I think he is easily out of the top 20 players of this decade.
Similar threads
