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:lmao: at people worried about Michael freaking Bush

Ellington has only been serviceable because he's getting a lot of touches.

I don't care if Bush stinks, if he takes away touches then Ellington's value goes down.

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Running back Ande Ellington’s hip pointer will keep him out of practice at least Wednesday, Arians said, adding that Ellington was “pretty sore” Monday.

...Marion Grice likely will be the first one in if Ellington cannot play, but Stepfan Taylor and Robert Hughes will be in the mix, Arians said, while the Cardinals will use a Wednesday padded practice to see where newcomer Michael Bush might fit into the equation.

http://www.azcardinals.com/news-and-events/article-2/Cards-Sort-Through-Tyrann-Mathieu-Jared-Veldheer-Injuries/95949db8-4ffb-4cfb-893f-434adcd6103b

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Hard to start him even if he plays Sunday.

Oy.

As always, it depends on your options, but I'm leaning towards rolling with Crowell over Ellington next week.

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Hard to start him even if he plays Sunday.

Oy.

As always, it depends on your options, but I'm leaning towards rolling with Crowell over Ellington next week.

I was planning on going Crowell even before this past week, based on match-ups. Since that time, Ellington got injured and West played himself into the doghouse, solidifying Crow's RB1 position. I'd say it's a no-brainer at this point.

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Coach Bruce Arians said Andre Ellington is dealing with a "severe" hip pointer and will be a game-time decision for Week 14 against the Chiefs.

It sure sounds like Ellington is on the wrong side of questionable. He won't practice this week. If Ellington can't go, Marion Grice would draw the start, but all four of Grice, Stepfan Taylor, Michael Bush, and Robert Hughes could see carries. The Cardinals then come back on a short week in Week 15 when they travel to St. Louis for Thursday Night Football. Injuries are catching up with Arizona.

Source: Alex Marvez on Twitter
Dec 2 - 8:58 PM

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How are the Chiefs a tough matchup? They have given up almost 600 rushing yards in their last 3 games.

It doesn't matter, Ellington is matchup proof. He will always get his 2 YPC average.

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How are the Chiefs a tough matchup? They have given up almost 600 rushing yards in their last 3 games.

It doesn't matter, Ellington is matchup proof. He will always get his 2 YPC average.

What about Grice?

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How are the Chiefs a tough matchup? They have given up almost 600 rushing yards in their last 3 games.

It doesn't matter, Ellington is matchup proof. He will always get his 2 YPC average.

What about Grice?

thats nice

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Any new word on how long Ellington may be out?

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Chances they draft a RB next year have to be high no?

Would looove to see them grab Gurley at a discount. We need to draft a Franchise QB as well though. Wouldn't mind if we loaded up on Defense though. I believe in Arians' system.

This team is a QB away from making serious waves. They may be able to get by with a smashmouth running game though.

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Any new word on how long Ellington may be out?

Fox Sports 910's Mike Jurecki hears the Cardinals are considering shutting down Andre Ellington (hip).

The hip pointer Ellington suffered while picking up a blitz last week is apparently far more severe than originally thought. The undersized feature back will likely see a specialist soon to determine a timetable and course of action. It's a crippling blow to the 9-3 Cardinals, as they'll now have to ride with a committee of Stepfan Taylor, Marion Grice and Robert Hughes.

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So Grice is the RB to own here? Taylor? Do not touch?

i just picked up taylor...he will probably get more downs than Grice and will get the goal line carries im sure

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Look at their upcoming schedule. I think you'd have a hard time starting Ellington the next couple of weeks if he were healthy. Even considering playing Grice or Taylor in the next couple weeks seems like crazy talk. I'd look into other options.

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So Grice is the RB to own here? Taylor? Do not touch?

Without Andre Ellington (hip) in the lineup on Sunday, the Cardinals will turn to Stepfan Taylor at running back.

Arizona head coach Bruce Arians told reporters Friday that Taylor, a fifth-round pick from 2013, will be his starter on Sunday against the Chiefs.

KC gave up 43/220 to Denver and 30/179 to Oakland last two games (which includes 15/28 for McFadden and MJD. Reece and Murray gashed them).

I would think for the desperate he might have some value.

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Safe to cut this guy in redraft? There's a guy on the free agent list I'd like to grab before the early games start.

I cut him and I think you should too. Even if a miracle happens, his remaining games are against NFC West foes, no thanks.

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Safe to cut this guy in redraft? There's a guy on the free agent list I'd like to grab before the early games start.

I cut him and I think you should too. Even if a miracle happens, his remaining games are against NFC West foes, no thanks.

Yep.

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Rotoworld:

Andre Ellington (sports-hernia surgery, foot) has resumed running.

It's further proof that Ellington will avoid foot surgery. Barring setbacks, he should be a full participant in Arizona's offseason program. It's nice to see Ellington getting back to full health, but he'll be a candidate to break down again next season if the Cardinals ride him the way they did in 2014. Ellington's 5-foot-9, 199-pound frame appears ill-suited to the monstrous workloads coach Bruce Arians insisted he handle.
Jan 15 - 1:57 PM

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Maybe he can get some of his speed and big play ability back with some healthy. Other than that 81 yard TD from Logan Thomas I don't recall many explosive plays this past year.

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Rotoworld:

Cardinals coach Bruce Arians said Andre Ellington is "still the focal point of the offense."

That's good to know, though we're more concerned about Ellington's health. The 26-year-old was hampered by a split tendon in his left foot for much of the 2014 season and recently underwent sports hernia surgery. Having the whole offseason to heal should allow Ellington to improve on the measly 3.3 yards per carry he averaged in 2014. But questions remain if the 199-pound Ellington can make it through the season as a "focal point" without getting hurt. The 20.5 touches per game he averaged last year took a major toll.
Feb 19 - 10:31 AM

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Rotoworld:

Cardinals coach Bruce Arians said Andre Ellington is "still the focal point of the offense."

That's good to know, though we're more concerned about Ellington's health. The 26-year-old was hampered by a split tendon in his left foot for much of the 2014 season and recently underwent sports hernia surgery. Having the whole offseason to heal should allow Ellington to improve on the measly 3.3 yards per carry he averaged in 2014. But questions remain if the 199-pound Ellington can make it through the season as a "focal point" without getting hurt. The 20.5 touches per game he averaged last year took a major toll.

Source: Darren Urban on Twitter

Feb 19 - 10:31 AM

This is unbelievably dumb analysis. Ellington got hurt BEFORE the season even started. It had nothing to do with his useage. And tendon injuries have nothing to do with lack of size. In fact, tendon injuries tend to occur when guys are overly developed and it puts too much stress on the inelastic tendons. The Cards further screwed up by not just resting him for the first month of the season.

I'm way more concerned with tendon and ligament injuries from him being too big than I am him erring injured because he's small.

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Rotoworld:

Andre Ellington - RB - Cardinals

Coach Bruce Arians said the Cardinals would "like to have a bigger back."

The Cardinals asked Andre Ellington to be their workhorse last season, a role his 199-pound frame was ill-equipped to handle. His yards per carry dropped off a cliff with a heavier workload, which strongly suggests Ellington is more suited for a change of pace role. The Cardinals have shown interest in Adrian Peterson but it's more likely they address running back in the draft.

Source: Josh Weinfuss on Twitter

Mar 25 - 10:33 AM

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Media can report whatever they want, dude had turf toe all year. Arians still gave him a full load. Bet he wants to prove himself right in 2015, buy low.

Tend to agree. All we ever hear is how they want a big back and Ellington is too small, but every player is different. They said Charles was too small. They said MJD was too small. Until its proven one way or the other, they should let it play out.

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Media can report whatever they want, dude had turf toe all year. Arians still gave him a full load. Bet he wants to prove himself right in 2015, buy low.

Tend to agree. All we ever hear is how they want a big back and Ellington is too small, but every player is different. They said Charles was too small. They said MJD was too small. Until its proven one way or the other, they should let it play out.

His injury was clearly a factor last year, but unfortunately Arians wants to go in a different direction regardless.

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Can't stand these blurbs sometimes, here is the original source they are citing from twitter @joshweinfuss

"Arians on RBs: "We'd like to have a bigger back." Said #AZCardinals looking for big, fast back. Could come in 4th or 5th round."

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Can't stand these blurbs sometimes, here is the original source they are citing from twitter @joshweinfuss

"Arians on RBs: "We'd like to have a bigger back." Said #AZCardinals looking for big, fast back. Could come in 4th or 5th round."

Well, Ellington himself was a 6th rounder, so that alone doesn't mean much.

It's not necessarily when they draft an RB because most RBs not named Gurley, Gordon or a few rounds are going to slip into the middle rounds. That's just the nature of value of the NFL RB. The fact that Arians isn't sold on Ellington as a workhorse is the key here.

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Cards need a big back option. Wouldn't spend a 1st round pick on a big back 2 down option however (with Ellington still playing significant pass down role).. Frankly wouldn't spend a 1st round pick period on RB in today's NFL. .



Andre Ellington forced just 20 missed tackles on 247 touches last season.



Out of 18 running backs who accounted for at least 50 percent of his team's attempts, Ellington received by-far PFF's worst "elusive rating." It's just another sign that the Cardinals can't rely on Ellington as their backfield workhorse. He's a change-up back and complementary piece to use in space, not a foundation back who can bang it between the tackles. Arizona would love for Georgia RB Todd Gurley to be there at No. 24 in the draft.

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Cards need a big back option. Wouldn't spend a 1st round pick on a big back 2 down option however (with Ellington still playing significant pass down role).. Frankly wouldn't spend a 1st round pick period on RB in today's NFL. .

Andre Ellington forced just 20 missed tackles on 247 touches last season.

Out of 18 running backs who accounted for at least 50 percent of his team's attempts, Ellington received by-far PFF's worst "elusive rating." It's just another sign that the Cardinals can't rely on Ellington as their backfield workhorse. He's a change-up back and complementary piece to use in space, not a foundation back who can bang it between the tackles. Arizona would love for Georgia RB Todd Gurley to be there at No. 24 in the draft.

To be fair, Ellington hurt himself in pre-season and was never the same all season despite gutting it out week after week. But I guess that's the point about his questionable durability.

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Just a hunch, but I too think he's a buy low. Who they pick up and his health are the key factors of course, but you could see the guy limping and wincing during games yet staying on the field. And there were enough "wow" plays where he showed explosiveness even with the injury. Before last year most thought DeMarco Murry unreliable and overrated, he turned into the best with one healthy year. I don't see that kind of upside for Ellington but if healthy, RB1 for sure. And top tier PPR. We'll see but he's a guy to keep an eye on and target for depth if the price is right.

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Just a hunch, but I too think he's a buy low. Who they pick up and his health are the key factors of course, but you could see the guy limping and wincing during games yet staying on the field. And there were enough "wow" plays where he showed explosiveness even with the injury. Before last year most thought DeMarco Murry unreliable and overrated, he turned into the best with one healthy year. I don't see that kind of upside for Ellington but if healthy, RB1 for sure. And top tier PPR. We'll see but he's a guy to keep an eye on and target for depth if the price is right.

I agree. Unless you're convinced about their ability to stay healthy going forward, these kind of guys that play a season at 60% usually make great buys in the next offseason. People tend to disregard that when looking at their numbers and they end up way underrated.

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Just a hunch, but I too think he's a buy low. Who they pick up and his health are the key factors of course, but you could see the guy limping and wincing during games yet staying on the field. And there were enough "wow" plays where he showed explosiveness even with the injury. Before last year most thought DeMarco Murry unreliable and overrated, he turned into the best with one healthy year. I don't see that kind of upside for Ellington but if healthy, RB1 for sure. And top tier PPR. We'll see but he's a guy to keep an eye on and target for depth if the price is right.

ya, I don't think he practiced during the week nearly the entire year. He was a shell of himself.

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I sold on a stacked dynasty roster and am leery i might regret it sooner or later. Although my rbs were charles foster lacy hill hyde tre denard morris and ellington. I sold ellington n alf for peyton n knile davis. Qb has been my only weak spot that and starting the wrong guys lol

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I sold on a stacked dynasty roster and am leery i might regret it sooner or later. Although my rbs were charles foster lacy hill hyde tre denard morris and ellington. I sold ellington n alf for peyton n knile davis. Qb has been my only weak spot that and starting the wrong guys lol

haha...how do you sleep at night?

I think you'll be ok with that stable regardless how Ellington turns out. Makes sense to deal a spare part for a big upgrade at a starter position.

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I'd buy that more if he didn't look a lot like he was expected to look pre-draft. I get that injuries impact performance. But I also think Ellington kind of started to look like the runner most expected him to be pre-draft. Sometimes teams get a book on a guy and he isn't as dynamic as he once appeared to be. He can be slick (when healthy), but he's not super powerful or super fast. There is a reason Arizona openly courted Peterson. If his salary wasn't outrageous, he'd be in AZ right now. Now the coach is openly stating they want a "big, fast" guy and the GM is saying Ellington "needs to get bigger and stronger". It will be a lot easier to get a bigger stronger guy than MAKE Ellington a bigger, stronger guy, and I think it's fairly obvious they plan to do that.

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Just a hunch, but I too think he's a buy low. Who they pick up and his health are the key factors of course, but you could see the guy limping and wincing during games yet staying on the field. And there were enough "wow" plays where he showed explosiveness even with the injury. Before last year most thought DeMarco Murry unreliable and overrated, he turned into the best with one healthy year. I don't see that kind of upside for Ellington but if healthy, RB1 for sure. And top tier PPR. We'll see but he's a guy to keep an eye on and target for depth if the price is right.

ya, I don't think he practiced during the week nearly the entire year. He was a shell of himself.

I think that's a fair point, but also what a lot of people were expecting.

this year it'll be different?

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