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Thats the thing. The Vikings won tonight. They used Three picks on great players and should be improved.
Who was offering to trade back?
I'd like to see him go to a team that could afford him some time - Dallas, Detriot, Denver, Green Bay...somebody like that.
Yeah. I don't do that either.
Yes, if Minny had a better QB and the best WR in the league instead of just a top 10 WR. Oh and if Detroit had the best RB since Barry Sanders, a top 5 O-line, a top 5 D-line, and exciting young players in the receiving game and the secondary, they'd be the exact same team.So basically the same team as Minny if Minny had a great WR and NFL caliber QB??? I'll bet you on best record. Tiebreaker being head to head and then division record.Oh come on. Detroit is terrible. They have no corners, no tackles, and a raw rookie starting at one DE spot and nothing at the other. But hey, they've got a great WR.I'd say Green Bay is a lock. After that I would go with Detroit or Chicago. Let me go check the vegas odds for this year... Green Bay 12 - 1 (super bowl) Chicago 25-1 Detriot 40-1 Minny 40-1Which teams made the playoffs?Jealous of the 4th best team in their division?Hey Jealousy!
IF someone said they would have 7 picks overall, 3 in the first 25, everyone would be ecstatic.
shocked they got back into the first. As a Packer fan I hated it. But definitely a solid draft for them.
I biased because I'm obviously a Viking fan but I really don't understand why the Patriots made that trade. I hear the draft is deep but is it that deep. We are talking about moving back to the 52nd pick in the draft. Are they going to get a player capable of cracking the lineup from that position?
Agreed. When they traded up at the end of the round, my Vikings-for-life bud said "Please not Te'o... we addressed D, we need a wideout." 30 minutes, err, seconds later, high fives all around. Four true need positions, and three of them addressed in the first round? Damn solid.
Personally I think their will be WRs better than Patterson left on the board. Whether or not NE ids that guy and selects him is another matter.
Yeah you're right I can't think of a any guys on the patriots that play that weren't first or second rounders!?!? <_<
Are you saying Patterson has astigmatism?Limas Sweed anyone?
Patterson gives the Vikings a dynamic returner again and a dangerous YAC WR as well. On top of Floyd who was considered a top 5 pick and the best corner back the Vikings have drafted since Carl Lee.
Sure, there's a great chance they will get a starter. They didn't get much out of last year's draft in that range and beyond yet. But look at the 2 previous years.
Patterson is definitely not in the same tier as Julio. I have no problem with the Pats trade, but I do agree that it's kind of funny that they're already getting lots of praise for the move despite the fact that those picks have not even be used yet. I'd reserve judgement until the picks have been made to see how they made out value-wise.
Which is weirder - Belichick getting praised for trading down before seeing what he does with the picks or Belichick getting criticized for trading down before seeing what he does with the picks?
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-draft/0ap2000000163923/Best-available-players-for-Day-2
No doubt about it, Hoodie is back in the 2nd and 3rd after losing picks from previous deals.
I think it was a great trade all around, disparity between the few players available and the ones that will be available in addition to the Vikings getting exactly what they needed this draft.I wouldn't judge until after those picks are used but I expect the 2nd round to be very fruitful for the Pats.
Not sure it will make any difference, but...
I haven't seen the value chart, but it did not seem to me that a late first was worth almost all of the rest of their picks this year. Pick 29 forPicks 52, 83, 102, 229. Just seems lopsided and very standard Patriots issue (no one does this better). That said, I definitely felt that the Vikings left Day 1 with the best overall draft. So maybe the rest of these picks are not relevant.ETA - Just checked the value chart, and it says that Pick 29 is worth 640. Picks 52(380), 83 (175), 102 (92) and 229 (2) are worth 647. So looks a whole lot more reasonable when looking at the value chart which is invariably posted in one of the many pages of this thread already.
I'm a Patriots fan, and I'm not sure why people think they raped the Vikings. I think the trade is great because it remedies the precise problem the Patriots had (i.e. only having 3 picks before the 7th round) but value-wise, seems fine to me. They moved down like 22 spots, pretty significant drop.
Exactly, it's not like the Vikings moved up 4 or 5 picks. They moved up 23 spots to get a guy they liked and fit the team. 23 spots is a long drop for the Patriots. By that time most of the value players could be gone.
This may be why he was not taken. He declined and interview on his way out basically pouting as he left. Not what teams are looking for in a guy to lead the team.
a) so they went and got one of the two that can be
a) But if there are any, they're Patterson and Austin.
And, they STILL have a 4th, 5th, 6th, and two 7ths...so they didn't give up "almost all of the rest of their picks this year".
Yeah, I should have spent more time looking at this clearly. My initial instinct last night was that the Pats were on the good end of this. I was very wrong and am convinced otherwise now, especially given that no other team came close to the Vikings in terms of most improved on Day 1 (at least not in my eyes).
And Harvin didn't want to play for Minnesota anymore. They unloaded him and got something a lot out of it.
Patterson gives the Vikings a dynamic returner again and a dangerous YAC WR as well. On top of Floyd who was considered a top 5 pick and the best corner back the Vikings have drafted since Carl Lee.
