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beerbarron said:
Whats the over under for first round trades?? 2.5 maybe??
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No odds posted on that, but oddsmakers do have some interesting things to bet on:

http://www.oddsshark.com/nfl/sportsbooks-release-nfl-draft-odds

2013 NFL Draft - How many QBs will be selected in the 1st Rd?

Over 1 (EVEN)

Under 1 (-140)

2013 NFL Draft - How many safeties will be selected in the 1st Rd?

Over 2½ (-140)

Under 2½ (EVEN)

2013 NFL Draft - How many WRs will be selected in the 1st Rd?

Over 3 (-140)

Under 3 (EVEN)

2013 NFL Draft - How many offensive players will be drafted in the 1st Round?

Over 13 (-120)

Under 13 (-120)

2013 NFL Draft - How many defensive players will be drafted in the 1st Round?

Over 19 (-120)

Under 19 (-120)

2013 NFL Draft - Who will be the 2nd Pick Overall?

Eric Fisher 1/1

Dion Jordan 2/1

Ezekiel Ansah 7/2

Luke Joeckel 7/1

Geno Smith 15/1

2013 NFL Draft - Who will be the 3rd Pick Overall?

Shariff Floyd -1000

Other Player +550

2013 NFL Draft - Who will be the 4th Pick Overall?

Lane Johnson 3/2

Star Lotulelei 7/4

Dion Jordan 2/1

Chance Warmack 9/1

2013 NFL Draft - Who will be the 5th Pick Overall?

Lane Johnson 5/4

Ezekiel Ansah 2/1

Eric Fisher 3/1

Dee Miliner 9/2

2013 NFL Draft - Draft Position - Geno Smith

Over 8½ (EVEN)

Under 8½ (-140)

2013 NFL Draft - Draft Position - Matt Barkley

Over 37½ (-120)

Under 37½ (-120)

2013 NFL Draft - Draft Position - Marcus Lattimore

Over 84½ (-120)

Under 84½ (-120)

2013 NFL Draft - Draft Position - Tavon Austin

Over 13½ (-120)

Under 13½ (-120)

2013 NFL Draft - Draft Position - Manti Te'o

Over 25½ (-110)

Under 25½ (-130)

2013 NFL Draft - Draft Position - Eddie Lacy

Over 22½ (-120)

Under 22½ (-120)

2013 NFL Draft - Who will be drafted 1st?

Justin Hunter -200

DeAndre Hopkins +150

2013 NFL Draft - Draft Position - Tyrann Mathieu

Over 75½ (-120)

Under 75½ (-120)

2013 NFL Draft - Will the Eagles trade the 4th pick overall?

Yes +170

No -250

 
Strange to find something you cant bet on through vegas?? Anybody confident in some of those lines to put money down??

 
Here's my top 10 picks

1. Chiefs Luke Joeckel2. Jaguars Eric Fisher3. Raiders Sharrif Floyd4. Eagles Dion Jordan5. Lions Eric FisherAnd by 10 I mean 7.

Browns trade down to get a 2nd round pick that they ship to the Patriots for Mallett.6. Dolphins Ziggy Anzah7. Cardinals OT Lane Johnson

 
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beerbarron said:
Strange to find something you cant bet on through vegas?? Anybody confident in some of those lines to put money down??
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From what I'm reading in the last 24 hours, Tavon Austin at 13 1/3 is a solid under. The reason for that number is that the Rams are at 14, but it's looking like there's a lot of interest in him and they may have to move up to get him. 14 seems to be the absolute lowest he goes, and if any teams below the Rams want him they will trade up... so, 13 and under seems to be a great bet.

 
beerbarron said:
Strange to find something you cant bet on through vegas?? Anybody confident in some of those lines to put money down??
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I'll take the over on Lattimore, and Lacy.

i think they both go later than that.

Also, you can get the field at +550 vs. Floyd for the #3 pick, that's a no brainer.

 
Man, I am never on Twitter, but if there ever was a day to be on it, today is the day.

I have a little 'draft' list, with all the info guys, and Bloom, and Zierling etc.

Awesome reading.

Daniel Jeremiah ‏@MoveTheSticks14m
Latest draft buzz-- Browns love Mingo, Jets love Tavon Austin, MIA and SD are interested in moving up. #NFLDraft

 
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eric rymer said:
massraider said:
[*] Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter6mRams' second-first round pick, No. 22 overall, clearly is for sale. STL looking to deal out of 22.
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SF is going to be very active. Not like all 12 of those picks they have are going to make their roster.
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100%.

San Fran is in their window, right now. You go and get the guy, or guys that can help you this year.

Tavon Ausitn? Heck, why not?

Eifert?

 
http://www.thesidelineview.com/columns/draft/thirty-two-predictions-nfl-draft

Here are 32 things – one for each first-round pick (why not?) – that I think will happen over the course of the next three days:

  • The Darrelle Revis trade will end up haunting the Jets.
    He’ll end up playing well for the Buccaneers, and the Jets won’t get enough for that 13th pick (and the other scraps they got), which will lead to the firing of Rex Ryan and the branding of new GM Jon Idzik forever as The Guy Who Traded Revis, fairly or not. Pressure from Woody Johnson certainly didn’t help that situation. Speaking of which, it has been a bad few years for the Jets’ owners, has it not?
  • We might want to slow down the Tavon Austin hype machine a notch.
    Exciting player, no doubt. But the list of 175-pound players who have made it big in this league is slim in recent seasons. He reminds me a little of a more explosive Kelvin Martin (remember him?) and a leaner, faster Dexter McCluster. If Austin stays healthy, maybe he joins DeSean Jackson in that class of playmaker. But consider me a bit concerned health-wise long term. Oh, and I think he’ll go in the first 16 picks of the draft.
  • Ryan Nassib, E.J. Manuel and Matt Barkley all will be better quarterbacks than Geno Smith.
    This is not a prediction of which one will be drafted first, but rather a statement of their careers to come. Smith’s ballhandling and decision making vs. pressure concern me, and his temperament as a leader leaves something to be desired based on people I have talked to. The other three quarterbacks do well in those areas comparatively. Smith, ultimately I believe, will be considered a bust wherever he’s taken.
  • The RB class will feature some real bargains.
    I think you can wait on the running backs and get a good one in Rounds Two, Three, Four and Five. Jonathan Franklin is a good one. Gio Bernarrd, if healthy, has a place in this league. Stepfan Taylor is really underrated (think Stevan Ridley type). The pub on Mike Gillislee has been too cool for me. Cierre Wood might surprise (for some reason, I like him with the Steelers). Knile Davis and Christine Michael are worth the risk later on. It’s a deeper class than people realize.
  • Justin Hunter will end up being the top outside wideout in this class.
    And teams are starting to figure that out; I bet he doesn’t make it out of the top 30 picks, with either Minnesota, Houston or New England snapping him up in Round One. Hunter put up gaudy numbers following a knee injury on a flawed Tennessee team and should be even better another year removed from it and with better QB play. He looks like the classic “X” receiver to me.
  • There could be 10 eventual starting safeties in this class.
    I believe that Kenny Vaccaro, Eric Reid, Jonathan Cyprien, Matt Elam and D.J. Swearinger will be either Day One starters, or starters at some point during their rookie seasons. The position is weak in the NFL right now, and this is the best safety class we’ve seen in some time. Another five will earn starting spots at some point in their careers, with Phillip Thomas, Zeke Motta, Jamoris Slaughter, Duke Williams and Earl Wolff later bloomers with a chance. Height-weight-speed prospect T.J. McDonald doesn’t wow me, but a pair of college corners – Sanders Commings and Will Davis – might be pro safeties.
  • The group of returners is also quite good.
    You have players such as Austin, Cordarrelle Patterson, Andre Ellington, Bernard, Quinton Patton, Leon McFadden, Markus Wheaton, Marquise Goodwin and a number of other players who could help make this a banner class of returners, sort of a hidden benefit.
  • Eight offensive linemen will go in the first round.
    I’ve got Eric Fisher, Luke Joeckel, Lane Johnson, Chance Warmack, Jonathan Cooper, D.J. Fluker, Menelik Watson and maybe either Kyle Long or Justin Pugh slipping into the first 32. What a group.
  • Sheldon Richardson will end up a more disruptive player than Sharrif Floyd or Star Lotulelei.
    Richardson is a true disruptor, and all you needed to do was see 3-4 plays a game this past season where he would track a receiver or running back down from behind, it seemed, to know just how special he is. Does he fade in an out a bit? Yes, but what defensive lineman doesn’t? As a 700-800-snap-per season guy, I think he will make more big-play damage (sacks, TFLs, forced fumbles, etc.) than either Floyd or Lotulelei.
  • I rank the top four pass rushers as such:
    Dion Jordan, Barkevious Mingo, Jarvis Jones, then Ziggy Ansah. I just think Ansah could take a while to develop. Mingo isn’t a finished product either, but he has some serious appeal with patience over time. I am not down on Jones, I just like him a lot less than I did in, say, November.
  • The Browns will be disappointed.
    It has been a rollercoaster of emotion for this franchise in recent years, with more uphill climbs than thrilling dips, if the metaphor mistakes. And amid the recent legal worries over owner Jimmy Haslam, the optimism of a fairly fruitful offseason and a new coaching staff has been wet-blanketed. Unfortunately, I think some of that will leak out of the draft. They are already down a second-rounder (used on Josh Gordon last summer), and the prospects at No. 6 overall aren’t lip-smacking for them. It just so happens that their strengths – offensive and defensive lines – coincide with the strengths of this class. Trading down could be difficult in that spot; there’s no one at that spot they seem to love. Guessing they’ll have to settle.
  • Buffalo will be the wildcard team at the top of Round One.
    They’re really where everything trickles down from, even if a few trades occur above that pick at No. 8. Do they like Geno at all? Are they going to reach for Ryan Nassib there, for fear that the Jets (nine and 13) will scoop him up? Or do they make the safe pick, going with Chance Warmack? If they pass on Warmack, one offensive lineman of quality could slide 10 picks or so. If they pass on Smith, he could be in for a longer-than-expected wait. Buffalo is the flashpoint spot of the draft early on.
  • The over-under for Marcus Lattimore is 74.
    That’s when the 49ers pick for the first of two third-round selections. The Bengals, also needing a running back and also willing to gamble in the draft historically, pick at 84 currently. The Niners’ other third-rounder is an 93 overall, and they probably think they can’t wait at that point.
  • The over-under for Tyrann Mathieu is 91.
    The Patriots have done a lot of homework on him, and they could stand to add a little gristle to their defense, and that’s what he brings, plus the punt-return ability. If there’s a coach and a locker room situation – put him between Adrian Wilson and Devin McCourty – that can straighten out the talented and wayward slot corner, they can be found in New England. Their third-round pick is No. 91 overall, and they’d be interested in Mathieu there if they don’t go corner with one of their top picks.
  • The Chargers will trade up or down.
    If they want one of the top three tackles, they’ll need to move up into the top five (perhaps even dealing with division foe Oakland to do so). Unable to do that, they’d be candidates to move down from 11, likely not liking the offerings there, especially if Warmack and Cooper are gone. New GM Tom Telesco will be ready to move in his first time calling the shots on Draft Day.
  • Three or four quarterbacks will go in the 25-40 range.
    And I am guessing they are Matt Barkley, E.J. Manuel, Mike Glennon and perhaps Tyler Wilson. At least two will be had with picks that are a part of a trade. That’s when teams will feel most comfortable moving on these players. If the Falcons can’t move up or get the defensive player they want at 30, they could be candidates to move down; add the Packers, Broncos and Patriots to that list.
  • Bjoern Werner will slide.
    The Kyle Vanden Bosch doppelganger was, at one point, considered a top-15 pick. Now teammate Tank Carradine appears to have stolen much of his thunder. I would not be stunned to see Werner pop out of Round One, but ultimately I think he goes in the late 20s or early 30s.
  • Eddie Lacy might be the first back off the board...
    ...but Franklin will be the second-round star to come out of this draft. You watch.
  • The cornerback pecking order will befuddle us all.
    Between Dee Milliner’s injury concern to the fast-rising D.J. Hayden, I expect some shockers at this position. There will be second-rounders who outplay first-round corners – mark my words. Plus, with different schemes (man/zone, off/press coverage), you will see system fits who go higher than anticipated, with someone like Desmond Trufant or Johnthan Banks perhaps sliding and Darius Slay and Blidi Wreh-Wilson going higher.
  • One inside linebacker will go in Round One.
    I don’t have a great feel as to whether it will be Manti Te’o, the suddenly shaky Alec Ogletree or Kevin Minter, but a second one in Round One would be a mild upset in my mind.
  • Carolina could be up to something.
    Cap considerations have left them mostly dormant in free agency. They have watched their opponents get better, with the Falcons adding Osi Umenyiora and Steven Jackson, the Bucs adding Darrelle Revis and the Saints getting their head coach back, plus Rob Ryan. Everyone for months have slotted in Richardson or another defensive tackle, and that (to me) would be the wise choice. But something tells me that new GM Dave Gettleman might have something up his sleeve: either taking Austin if he’s there, or making a deal up or down. Just a gut feeling there.
  • Offensive linemen will populate Round Two heavily, too.
    I look for OG Larry Warford, either Long or Pugh, OG-OT Brian Winters, C Travis Frederick, OT Terron Armstead, OG Dallas Thomas, C Brian Schwenke and maybe one or two others to be off the board in that range. If so, we’d be talking about maybe 16-18 offensive linemen in the first two rounds. Last year there were 12 in the first 64 picks.
  • At least one veteran player will be traded on Thursday or Friday.
    I expect some player movement involving picks and players, with at least 2-3 and possibly 4-5 players dealt. Some names to consider: Eagles WR Jeremy Maclin (wouldn’t he look good in New England?), Chiefs OT Branden Albert (Dolphins are still in play), Bucs CB Eric Wright (back to Detroit?), Bucs RB LeGarrette Blount and Vikings RB Toby Gerhart.
  • Milliner will not fall out of the top 10.
    It’s not happening, I don’t think. The talk of his injuries is smoke from other teams hoping he’ll fall. He won’t.
  • Alec Ogletree might be the guy who falls farther than expected.
    Not all teams are convinced he’s an inside guy; he might be strictly a weakside option. And with character concerns clouding the picture, Ogletree could slide well into Round Two.
  • Keenan Allen will take a hit, too.
    His injury recovery has been slow, and his 40-yard dash was not impressive, so it would not surprise me to see six or even seven wideouts go before his name is called. Teams will be nitpicky because they’ll be looking for specific things in their receivers, and a lot of them are lumped with similar grades in that range.
  • Eight or nine Georgia defenders will be drafted.
    So how come, with a former NFL coordinator, were they not better on that side of the ball last season? A prediction within a prediction: Cornelious Washington, out of position as a five-technique last year out of need, will be a better pro than a college player.
  • Candidates to be overdrafted:
    Ansah, CB Xavier Rhodes, Watson, DT Jesse Williams, DE-DT Margus Hunt, Minter.
  • Candidates to be underdrafted:
    Winters, S D.J. Swearinger, TE Travis Kelce, CB Logan Ryan, Ellington, LB John Simon.
  • You will be sick of Leon Sandcastle commercials by the 26th pick...
    ...if you watch NFL Network’s broadcast.
  • You will be sick of Chris Berman by the sixth pick...
    ...if you watch ESPN’s broadcast. Pick your poison wisely.
  • And my two candidates for Mr. Irrelevant will be…
    Colorado LB Doug Rippy or Georgia DT Abry Jones. The Colts, owners of the infamous final pick, are seeking run stoppers, even this late in the draft. Enjoy your parade, guy.
 
Bruce Hammond said:
2013 NFL Draft - How many QBs will be selected in the 1st Rd?Over 1 (EVEN)Under 1 (-140)
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Am I missing something here? Seems like an easy play on the over (and at worst, a push), but everyone is betting the under? Is there really any danger of Geno falling all the way out of the 1st?

 
massraider said:
eric rymer said:
massraider said:
[*] Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter6mRams' second-first round pick, No. 22 overall, clearly is for sale. STL looking to deal out of 22.
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SF is going to be very active. Not like all 12 of those picks they have are going to make their roster.
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100%.

San Fran is in their window, right now. You go and get the guy, or guys that can help you this year.

Tavon Ausitn? Heck, why not?

Eifert?
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I agree but I just don't see this. I've seen it mocked a couple times but I don't get it. Honestly it seemed like they completely forgot about Vernon Davis a lot last year and it's not like they were devoid of talent at the position. I know Walker is gone so there is a need at TE but it seems like a lot to spend to move up for a luxury pick

 
FreeBaGeL said:
Bruce Hammond said:
2013 NFL Draft - How many QBs will be selected in the 1st Rd?Over 1 (EVEN)Under 1 (-140)
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Am I missing something here? Seems like an easy play on the over (and at worst, a push), but everyone is betting the under? Is there really any danger of Geno falling all the way out of the 1st?
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I don't think so. I think there will be a lot of activity at the end of the 1st with people getting back in to grab the QB's. IMO 3 QB's will go in the first - Nassib, Manuel, and Smith.

 
I'll play :)

Bruce Hammond said:
No odds posted on that, but oddsmakers do have some interesting things to bet on:

http://www.oddsshark.com/nfl/sportsbooks-release-nfl-draft-odds

2013 NFL Draft - How many QBs will be selected in the 1st Rd?
Over 1 (EVEN) <-----
Under 1 (-140)

2013 NFL Draft - How many safeties will be selected in the 1st Rd?
Over 2½ (-140) <-----
Under 2½ (EVEN)

2013 NFL Draft - How many WRs will be selected in the 1st Rd?
Over 3 (-140)
Under 3 (EVEN) <----- I'd bet the push if I could

2013 NFL Draft - How many offensive players will be drafted in the 1st Round?
Over 13 (-120)
Under 13 (-120) <-----

2013 NFL Draft - How many defensive players will be drafted in the 1st Round?
Over 19 (-120) <----- lol this is the same exact bet as above (unless the Raiders draft a punter...)
Under 19 (-120)

2013 NFL Draft - Who will be the 2nd Pick Overall?
Eric Fisher 1/1
Dion Jordan 2/1
Ezekiel Ansah 7/2 <-----
Luke Joeckel 7/1
Geno Smith 15/1

2013 NFL Draft - Who will be the 3rd Pick Overall?
Shariff Floyd -1000
Other Player +550 <-----

2013 NFL Draft - Who will be the 4th Pick Overall?
Lane Johnson 3/2 <-----
Star Lotulelei 7/4
Dion Jordan 2/1
Chance Warmack 9/1

Probably Joeckel but sinc that's not a choice

2013 NFL Draft - Who will be the 5th Pick Overall?
Lane Johnson 5/4
Ezekiel Ansah 2/1 <-----
Eric Fisher 3/1
Dee Miliner 9/2

2013 NFL Draft - Draft Position - Geno Smith
Over 8½ (EVEN)
Under 8½ (-140) <----- This is very interesting. The Odds people have him favored to go Top 8. Cleveland here he comes.

2013 NFL Draft - Draft Position - Matt Barkley
Over 37½ (-120) <----- tough one, some team could totally go Christian Ponder here I suppose.
Under 37½ (-120)

2013 NFL Draft - Draft Position - Marcus Lattimore
Over 84½ (-120) <----- devalued position
Under 84½ (-120)

2013 NFL Draft - Draft Position - Tavon Austin
Over 13½ (-120)
Under 13½ (-120) <----- This may be the best bet on the board.

2013 NFL Draft - Draft Position - Manti Te'o
Over 25½ (-110)
Under 25½ (-130) <----- Another toughie. I think the Vikes track record is such that somebody may even trade ahead of them so I'll go under.

2013 NFL Draft - Draft Position - Eddie Lacy
Over 22½ (-120) <----- This prop almost reads "Will the Bengals take Eddie Lacy here?" My gut says no, there will be a safety they like more there.
Under 22½ (-120)

2013 NFL Draft - Who will be drafted 1st?
Justin Hunter -200
DeAndre Hopkins +150 <----- I have no idea. So I'll take the better odds :)

2013 NFL Draft - Draft Position - Tyrann Mathieu
Over 75½ (-120) <----- I'm thinking late round 3 at best.
Under 75½ (-120)

2013 NFL Draft - Will the Eagles trade the 4th pick overall?
Yes +170
No -250 <----- It's gonna be tough for them to get the right value
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-QG

 
What are the chances we see Goodell get up and announce the Manti pick this way?...

"Tay! Me say Teeeeeeeooooo.! Daylight come and me wanna go home!"

I say zero, but wouldn't it be the greatest thing ever?

 
Just to reiterate.... the odds on the prop board above are way out dated. You guys made some good calls because most of your picks went the way you would have bet it.

 
Rams GM Snead: 'Right now, everybody's just flirting'

Link:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000163293/article/rams-gm-snead-right-now-everybodys-just-flirting

By Marc Sessler

Around the League Writer

With draft rumors showering the NFL landscape, at least one general manager is providing a little perspective on the matter.

Les Snead of the St. Louis Rams told NFL Network that the hours leading up to the 2013 NFL Draft amount to nothing more than "flirting." In other words, proceed with caution until teams are on the clock.

"Not sure if this year is any different than last year, but really, right now, everybody's just flirting with each other," Sneed said. "There's no dating going on here. No marriages. So, until someone asks someone to marry them -- and that will come tonight -- that's when we'll know the value of moving up or down in this draft."

Reports of pre-draft heavy petting range from the Oakland Raiders listening to offers for their No. 3 pick; to the Browns heat-seeking a trade up for LSU's Barkevious Mingo; to the New York Jets and Buffalo Bills falling hard for West Virginia's Mr. Everything, Tavon Austin.

Shall we go on?

The Rams, of course, aren't wallflowers here. NFL.com's Jeff Darlington reported Thursday that St. Louis will explore moving up from No. 16 while subsequently looking to shop their 22nd overall selection to regain lost picks.

NFL.com's Ian Rapoport seconded that, telling NFL Network he wouldn't be surprised if the Rams "bailed" from No. 22. This is a pick, said RapSheet, "that a lot of people want."

Not a bad place for Snead and Co. to be.

Follow Marc Sessler on Twitter @MarcSesslerNFL

 
Exceptionally good point by Florio:

As the draft approaches and the pre-draft rumor mill spins like the Tasmanian Devil on Adderall (after all, half of all cartoon characters take it), it’s important from time to time to widen the lens.

Plenty of trades are expected tonight. In the back of the first round, there’s an important reason for that.

While all draft picks now must sign four-year rookie deals, first-round picks can have their rights tied up for a fifth year. That makes the bottom of round one more attractive, especially for a team that lands a quarterback.

Earlier today, we mused about the possibility of the Ravens and Jaguars flip-flopping the 32nd and 33rd picks. We mentioned it primarily as a way to help Jacksonville ensure that they won’t be jumped by another team in round two. But even if the Jags don’t fear being leap-frogged, they may want to trade up to 32 in order to get whichever quarterback they’re targeting for five years instead of four.

 
Riversco said:
Here's my top 10 picks1. Chiefs Luke Joeckel2. Jaguars Eric Fisher3. Raiders Sharrif Floyd4. Eagles Dion Jordan5. Lions Eric FisherAnd by 10 I mean 7.Browns trade down to get a 2nd round pick that they ship to the Patriots for Mallett.6. Dolphins Ziggy Anzah7. Cardinals OT Lane Johnson
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We've had 2 sport stars before but I think this would make Eric Fisher the first two teams in the same league player. He's going to be pretty happy taking home 2 paychecks.
 
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