Why are people so quick to assume that yf he goes to prison for an extended period of time he can just come back and pick up where he left off? Because Vick did it? That is a bold assumption IMO. There is just as good a chance he gets totally out of shape and never has an impact.
Vick, Ricky Williams, Plaxico Burress. On defense, Bertrand Berry was out of the league for a couple of years. Hell, Brian Banks has been in prison since he was 18 and he's still drawing some interest around the league.
If a player in his early-to-mid 20s is motivated and really wants to get back into the NFL, history shows that it's achievable.
I can't believe the denial going on about this. Hernandez was there when a man was executed in cold blood and then went home and did everything in his power to cover it up. I don't see the parallels to guys who killed dogs, smoked weed, and accidently discharged a gun in a club, etc.
Brian Banks' accuser admitted that she made up the story and he was released from prison.
We don't know Hernandez was there. We know a car he rented was there, but he rented three cars- obviously he never intended to drive all of them. And even if Hernandez was there, what matters is what the police can prove. Ben Roethlisberger probably committed sexual assault, but the police couldn't prove it, and so he was never charged with it. We've seen celebrity entourages take the fall for guilty parties before, and we've seen seemingly fool-proof cases fall apart (hello, O.J.).
Brian Banks is a remarkable human being and an inspiration to us all. The fact that he was unjustly put through hell and yet still managed to come through the other side with a positive attitude is one of the most compelling testaments to the potential of humanity that I have ever seen. He is a hero. At the very best, Hernandez is a thug who has equipped and enabled the scum of the earth to perpetrate atrocities. At the worst, he is Joseph Conrad's Kurtz, an amoral monster and the human manifestation of unchecked evil. Comparing Hernandez to Brian Banks in terms of the quality of their integrity or the strength of their character would be deplorable. Fortunately for Hernandez, physical skill and athletic talent remains uncorrelated to integrity or character, and the example of Brian Banks can therefore be illustrative. Banks went to jail at age 18, never played football at a high level of competition, never had a chance to benefit from a quality strength and conditioning program, and yet was still able to get an NFL tryout upon his release, and by all accounts had physical ability and talent level comparable to an undrafted rookie free agent. This is absolutely remarkable. Brian Banks, along with the other players I mentioned, demonstrate that it is possible for a young man to spend several years away from the league and still return to it with enough athleticism and skill to compete at an NFL level. If Hernandez goes away to prison, the fact that he's a substantially worse human being than Brian Banks does not mean he will not be able to compete as well as Brian Banks upon his release.
Well, if he can only compete as well as Banks upon a return after a multi-year hiatus, he won't have much fantasy value. In which case, he shouldn't be high in anyone's rankings and is not worth a roster spot. Perhaps we agree after all...
Brian Banks was a top high school recruit who performed like a UFA despite never having access to any division 1 or NFL resources or training. He performed at a level way above what anyone would have expected given his history before jail. Aaron Hernandez is already a star at the NFL level. He doesn't need to improve as much as Banks did, he simply needs to avoid regressing.
Plaxico and Williams were both much older when they made their comeback than Hernandez in this hypothetical, yet they still managed to perform admirably. Despite returning at an age when many top WRs are beginning to call it a career, Burress had one of the better age 34 seasons in history. Ricky Williams was even better- only one RB in history had more fantasy points at age 32 (Walter Payton). It took him a while to work himself back into shape, but he still managed to do it, and at a much more advanced age than the Hypothetical Hernandez.
The point is that guys who leave the league at a time when they are top talents have usually been able to return to the league, provided they were willing to dedicate themselves to the task. So, hypothetically speaking, if our hypothetical Hernandez leaves the league for some hypothetical period of time, but shows some hypothetical dedication to returning, he could still hypothetically hold value in future seasons.
This discussion is largely academic for me, though, as I still do not expect him to miss more than a single season.
I've updated my Footballguys dynasty rankings, and I have Hernandez at TE30. I was tempted to remove him altogether, but i'll wait on that to see just how long he is away. Six other staffers have updated rankings on 6/19 or after (the day the news broke), and they all have him between TE3 and TE10.
My TE30 ranking assumes:
1) He does not play in 2013.
2) He most likely does not play in 2014.
3) There is a better than 50-50 chance he goes to prison for multiple years, convicted on a charge relating to murder (ie, conspiracy, accessory, murder itself -- not just obstruction).
4) He may receive a lifetime ban from the NFL.
5) If he does return to the NFL at some point, it will not be as a Patriot with Brady throwing him the ball.
As the picture becomes clearer in one direction or another I'll adjust, either by moving him back up some if I've over-reacted or by removing him completely if some of the more dire negative possibilities become closer to fact. At this point though, I'd not recommend investing in him as more than an afterthought end-of-bench guy, because I view the negative outcomes as more likely than him regaining fantasy relevance.
In any case, he'll never again be on any of my own rosters.
Although your #4 doesn't quite track. Sounds like your ranking is assuming he will not receive a lifetime ban, or he wouldn't be as high as #30.
This is a good example of what I have felt for years that staffers should do with their rankings: project an actual outcome and rank accordingly, understanding that new information will lead to adjusting the ranking again.
Hey, I did the same thing (projected an outcome, explained why I was projecting it, ranked accordingly). You're just dropping the
on Hammond because you agree with him.