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I am tempering my expectations for TK, not because I don't like him. Believe me I can make an argument that he is the #2 TE. But the Chiefs may have the worst online in the league now ( at least according to the folks at Sirius). The loss of Hudson and the developing bust of Fisher top my list of concerns.

Less short yardage and MORE first read dumpoffs? Sign me up.

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I am tempering my expectations for TK, not because I don't like him. Believe me I can make an argument that he is the #2 TE. But the Chiefs may have the worst online in the league now ( at least according to the folks at Sirius). The loss of Hudson and the developing bust of Fisher top my list of concerns.

I don't think the line will be all that bad. They got Grubbs who is infinitely better than McGlynn at LG. Jeff Allen will be back at RG or RT after missing all of last season. There will definitely be a drop-off at C due to Hudson's departure, but I think Morse will do OK there.

As for Fisher, I think this is his make-or-break season. He got exposed in his rookie year, and suffered a shoulder injury that prevented him from doing any work in the offseason - he was basically stuck as a 2nd-year rookie last year. Now he'll have a full offseason to work on his craft, so it'll be interesting to see if he can develop. He probably won't be the studly, pro-bowl LT that we drafted him to be, but I think he could just be "good," which is good enough for me at this point.

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I am having a hard time trying him, despite all the hype he was getting. This is the second year in a row I have way too many tight ends in my shallow roster dynasty. Last year I tried to get a 2nd for him and nothing. This year I am trying to get a mid to late 1st for him or package him with my 1.11 to move up and no bites.

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I am having a hard time trying him, despite all the hype he was getting. This is the second year in a row I have way too many tight ends in my shallow roster dynasty. Last year I tried to get a 2nd for him and nothing. This year I am trying to get a mid to late 1st for him or package him with my 1.11 to move up and no bites.

He's got plenty of fans out there. He's consistently going in the 3rd and 4th round in dynasty startups this year so if you are not able to get any value for him you are either in a very boring league or you're a really bad salesperson. I can imagine it is hard to get good value for any TE in a shallow roster dynasty.

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I am having a hard time trying him, despite all the hype he was getting. This is the second year in a row I have way too many tight ends in my shallow roster dynasty. Last year I tried to get a 2nd for him and nothing. This year I am trying to get a mid to late 1st for him or package him with my 1.11 to move up and no bites.

My very serious suggestion is to discontinue attempting to trade him before this season and just enjoy the ride. Even if your other TE is Gronk you'll like having Kelce as a flex. He is legitimately in the conversation as the #2 TE for the next half dozen years, and I believe that as much as his stock has risen since last year he will be even better a year from now.

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I am having a hard time trying him, despite all the hype he was getting. This is the second year in a row I have way too many tight ends in my shallow roster dynasty. Last year I tried to get a 2nd for him and nothing. This year I am trying to get a mid to late 1st for him or package him with my 1.11 to move up and no bites.

My very serious suggestion is to discontinue attempting to trade him before this season and just enjoy the ride. Even if your other TE is Gronk you'll like having Kelce as a flex. He is legitimately in the conversation as the #2 TE for the next half dozen years, and I believe that as much as his stock has risen since last year he will be even better a year from now.

I would love to keep him, but our rookie draft is in about 2 weeks and by this Friday I have to cut down to 16 players and I don't have 4 players that I can cut. I also have Ertz, I really like him and can't get what he is worth, Eifert I like some what, but again no one will give me anything of value, and Reed on my team for tight ends. I was hoping to trade him for a pick since I only have 3 picks in the draft, or do a 2 for 1 with my him and one of my young receivers for a stud receiver.

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I've taken him in two 1.5 TE PPR startup drafts so far -- mid 3rd round both times.

Given the options available at that point in the draft, I'll take my chances.

Jordan Matthews

Keenan Allen

Russell Wilson

Adrian Peterson

Marshawn Lynch

Carlos Hyde

Allen Robinson

Matt Forte

Golden Tate

TJ Yeldon

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I am having a hard time trying him, despite all the hype he was getting. This is the second year in a row I have way too many tight ends in my shallow roster dynasty. Last year I tried to get a 2nd for him and nothing. This year I am trying to get a mid to late 1st for him or package him with my 1.11 to move up and no bites.

That is nuts. I am getting ridiculous trade offers for him, but I am big on solidifying my TE depth since they are so few elite ones, so I won't trade Kelce unless I am wowed.

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he was traded for the 1.01 in our league. 1PPR 1.5PPR for TE

I thought that was nuts, but it's a long running league of friends, all of which run their teams well...

but to me, now, that was nuts

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Offered the 1.01 for him too and was turned down, his counter was too add Evans and the 1.01 for him.

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Offered the 1.01 for him too and was turned down, his counter was too add Evans and the 1.01 for him.

That is a bit much even for 1.5 te premium leagues.

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Offered the 1.01 for him too and was turned down, his counter was too add Evans and the 1.01 for him.

That is a bit much even for 1.5 te premium leagues.

a bit much?

Id likely turn down kelce + 1.01 for Evans.

Im not as high as most on kelce. he's good, but he's somehow at 2nd coming of christ territory.

that guys is asking an insanity price

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Offered the 1.01 for him too and was turned down, his counter was too add Evans and the 1.01 for him.

That's nuts.

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he was traded for the 1.01 in our league. 1PPR 1.5PPR for TE

I thought that was nuts, but it's a long running league of friends, all of which run their teams well...

but to me, now, that was nuts

He went straight up for 1.4 in our FFPC 2500 dynasty league a couple weeks ago.

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he was traded for the 1.01 in our league. 1PPR 1.5PPR for TE

I thought that was nuts, but it's a long running league of friends, all of which run their teams well...

but to me, now, that was nuts

He went straight up for 1.4 in our FFPC 2500 dynasty league a couple weeks ago.

It's like a mad crowd clamoring for tulips. Maybe I should dangle Kelce to see what I can get. I might be pleasantly surprised.

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To me, he's worth exactly the 4th and a half rookie pick right now. Meaning I wouldn't trade (unless due to team need) any top 4 pick for him (Gurley, Gordon, Cooper or White), but I would easily trade any pick starting at 5 for him.

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he was traded for the 1.01 in our league. 1PPR 1.5PPR for TE

I thought that was nuts, but it's a long running league of friends, all of which run their teams well...

but to me, now, that was nuts

He went straight up for 1.4 in our FFPC 2500 dynasty league a couple weeks ago.

It's like a mad crowd clamoring for tulips. Maybe I should dangle Kelce to see what I can get. I might be pleasantly surprised.

Maybe, maybe not. I have Kelce on both of my FFPC leagues and the only interest I have gotten this off-season was from 1 owner and what I would consider low-ball offers. Not knocking the guy for trying, but nothing close to 1.4 value in my mind. But the hype train is certainly heating up, so could be good chance to get a price check.

To me, he's worth exactly the 4th and a half rookie pick right now. Meaning I wouldn't trade (unless due to team need) any top 4 pick for him (Gurley, Gordon, Cooper or White), but I would easily trade any pick starting at 5 for him.

In 1 PPR, I think that may be a bit rich for him; but if so, not by much. Just based on positional value and longevity could understand rookie WRs #3-#5 being preferable in most situations due to higher ceiling. Though in those cases, you have bust risk that you don't have with Kelce.

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I am having a hard time trying him, despite all the hype he was getting. This is the second year in a row I have way too many tight ends in my shallow roster dynasty. Last year I tried to get a 2nd for him and nothing. This year I am trying to get a mid to late 1st for him or package him with my 1.11 to move up and no bites.

My very serious suggestion is to discontinue attempting to trade him before this season and just enjoy the ride. Even if your other TE is Gronk you'll like having Kelce as a flex. He is legitimately in the conversation as the #2 TE for the next half dozen years, and I believe that as much as his stock has risen since last year he will be even better a year from now.

I would love to keep him, but our rookie draft is in about 2 weeks and by this Friday I have to cut down to 16 players and I don't have 4 players that I can cut. I also have Ertz, I really like him and can't get what he is worth, Eifert I like some what, but again no one will give me anything of value, and Reed on my team for tight ends. I was hoping to trade him for a pick since I only have 3 picks in the draft, or do a 2 for 1 with my him and one of my young receivers for a stud receiver.

With all that talent, and with the 16 player limit, it's very surprising you've had no bites. I figure Ertz and Kelce to be, at worst, in the top 5 at TE; Eifert should be 8-10 (again, at worst) and Reed maybe 15th.

I cannot imagine why other leaguemates aren't trying to get any of them from you.

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Hahaha... what? My only objection to Kelce is targets. I don't think he'll get enough to justify his ADP (TE3). Yet, in the article that is going to "eliminate my objections", check out the assumptions:

the entire argument for Kelce as a dynasty commodity rests on a few more targets per game.

If the following happens, he’ll climb into that 15 points/game tier:

  • He sees two to three more targets per game
  • He maintains an reFPOEPT in the 0.5 range

He got 87 targets last year. Two more per game would put him at 119. Three more per game would be 135. There were only six TEs with 100 or more targets. The MOST was 131 targets. So yeah, if we assume he gets the most, or close to the most, targets in the NFL for a TE while remaining very efficient, then yeah, he'll be good. Way to go out on a limb, guys!

In the last 4 years of Andy Reid coached teams, here are the team totals for TE targets (not the targets to the top TE):

96

79

83

75

Dwayne Bowe only got 95 targets last year. Do people think Maclin is going to get less than Bowe or that Smith is going to suddenly stop dumping off to the RBs? Or maybe we can steal targets from the 3rd leading WR/TE target... oh wait, that guy only got 28 targets.

I like Kelce's talent as much as the next guy, but I can't see him realistically getting much more than 100 targets without some unforeseeable change to the KC offense. Banking on the unforeseeable occasionally works (Denver receivers in 2013), but more often than not, it doesn't.

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So Kelce had 67 catches on 87 targets as a rookie, it seems we all agree that number will go up. How much is the question, we can all pretty much agree he should take a step forward, he will be trusted more, he will understand the offense better, more than likely he will be better conditioned, which all should equal to more targets. Why would we automatically think he won't get more targets than Maclin? Maclin is not some sick superstar that commands 10 targets a game, I personally can easily see those two having similar targets as the top two receiving options on the team and Kelce will be the clear cut top target in the red zone. I think if Kelce gets around 125 targets, which I think will happen he will put up something like, 90/1125/10. I think he will be a top 3 TE and may end up with better numbers than Graham. As always, just MHO.

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Rotoworld:

According to Pro Football Focus, Travis Kelce caught 66 of 71 catchable passes last season.

He dropped four and stopped running his route on the other. Kelce's ultra-efficient 2014 season had a lot to do with who was throwing him the football. Alex Smith, a noted short-yardage specialist, delivered 71 on-target throws to Kelce out of 80 passes last season. Smith's conservative approach is a double-edged sword for Kelce's fantasy owners. While Kelce probably won't rack up the yards, Smith's accuracy could help him secure 70 or more catches, which would put him among the league leaders at his position.
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Jul 10 - 10:58 AM

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Hahaha... what? My only objection to Kelce is targets. I don't think he'll get enough to justify his ADP (TE3). Yet, in the article that is going to "eliminate my objections", check out the assumptions:

the entire argument for Kelce as a dynasty commodity rests on a few more targets per game.

If the following happens, he’ll climb into that 15 points/game tier:

  • He sees two to three more targets per game
  • He maintains an reFPOEPT in the 0.5 range

He got 87 targets last year. Two more per game would put him at 119. Three more per game would be 135. There were only six TEs with 100 or more targets. The MOST was 131 targets. So yeah, if we assume he gets the most, or close to the most, targets in the NFL for a TE while remaining very efficient, then yeah, he'll be good. Way to go out on a limb, guys!

In the last 4 years of Andy Reid coached teams, here are the team totals for TE targets (not the targets to the top TE):

96

79

83

75

Dwayne Bowe only got 95 targets last year. Do people think Maclin is going to get less than Bowe or that Smith is going to suddenly stop dumping off to the RBs? Or maybe we can steal targets from the 3rd leading WR/TE target... oh wait, that guy only got 28 targets.

I like Kelce's talent as much as the next guy, but I can't see him realistically getting much more than 100 targets without some unforeseeable change to the KC offense. Banking on the unforeseeable occasionally works (Denver receivers in 2013), but more often than not, it doesn't.

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Hahaha... what? My only objection to Kelce is targets. I don't think he'll get enough to justify his ADP (TE3). Yet, in the article that is going to "eliminate my objections", check out the assumptions:

the entire argument for Kelce as a dynasty commodity rests on a few more targets per game.

If the following happens, he’ll climb into that 15 points/game tier:

  • He sees two to three more targets per game
  • He maintains an reFPOEPT in the 0.5 range

He got 87 targets last year. Two more per game would put him at 119. Three more per game would be 135. There were only six TEs with 100 or more targets. The MOST was 131 targets. So yeah, if we assume he gets the most, or close to the most, targets in the NFL for a TE while remaining very efficient, then yeah, he'll be good. Way to go out on a limb, guys!

In the last 4 years of Andy Reid coached teams, here are the team totals for TE targets (not the targets to the top TE):

96

79

83

75

Dwayne Bowe only got 95 targets last year. Do people think Maclin is going to get less than Bowe or that Smith is going to suddenly stop dumping off to the RBs? Or maybe we can steal targets from the 3rd leading WR/TE target... oh wait, that guy only got 28 targets.

I like Kelce's talent as much as the next guy, but I can't see him realistically getting much more than 100 targets without some unforeseeable change to the KC offense. Banking on the unforeseeable occasionally works (Denver receivers in 2013), but more often than not, it doesn't.

:goodposting:

Second the "good posting"

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Pro Football Focus@PFF Jul 11

Travis Kelce's 503 yds after the catch in '14 were the 3rd most by a TE since '07. Gronk 641 in '11 Gates 506 in '09

Edit: Credit to karmarooster for posting this in the dynasty TE discussion thread.

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I am having a hard time trying him, despite all the hype he was getting. This is the second year in a row I have way too many tight ends in my shallow roster dynasty. Last year I tried to get a 2nd for him and nothing. This year I am trying to get a mid to late 1st for him or package him with my 1.11 to move up and no bites.

My very serious suggestion is to discontinue attempting to trade him before this season and just enjoy the ride. Even if your other TE is Gronk you'll like having Kelce as a flex. He is legitimately in the conversation as the #2 TE for the next half dozen years, and I believe that as much as his stock has risen since last year he will be even better a year from now.

I would love to keep him, but our rookie draft is in about 2 weeks and by this Friday I have to cut down to 16 players and I don't have 4 players that I can cut. I also have Ertz, I really like him and can't get what he is worth, Eifert I like some what, but again no one will give me anything of value, and Reed on my team for tight ends. I was hoping to trade him for a pick since I only have 3 picks in the draft, or do a 2 for 1 with my him and one of my young receivers for a stud receiver.

With all that talent, and with the 16 player limit, it's very surprising you've had no bites. I figure Ertz and Kelce to be, at worst, in the top 5 at TE; Eifert should be 8-10 (again, at worst) and Reed maybe 15th.

I cannot imagine why other leaguemates aren't trying to get any of them from you.

They think he'll be released due to roster restrictions. I don't necessarily agree with that line of thinking but it is prevalent.

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Hahaha... what? My only objection to Kelce is targets. I don't think he'll get enough to justify his ADP (TE3). Yet, in the article that is going to "eliminate my objections", check out the assumptions:

the entire argument for Kelce as a dynasty commodity rests on a few more targets per game.

If the following happens, he’ll climb into that 15 points/game tier:

  • He sees two to three more targets per game
  • He maintains an reFPOEPT in the 0.5 range

He got 87 targets last year. Two more per game would put him at 119. Three more per game would be 135. There were only six TEs with 100 or more targets. The MOST was 131 targets. So yeah, if we assume he gets the most, or close to the most, targets in the NFL for a TE while remaining very efficient, then yeah, he'll be good. Way to go out on a limb, guys!

In the last 4 years of Andy Reid coached teams, here are the team totals for TE targets (not the targets to the top TE):

96

79

83

75

Dwayne Bowe only got 95 targets last year. Do people think Maclin is going to get less than Bowe or that Smith is going to suddenly stop dumping off to the RBs? Or maybe we can steal targets from the 3rd leading WR/TE target... oh wait, that guy only got 28 targets.

I like Kelce's talent as much as the next guy, but I can't see him realistically getting much more than 100 targets without some unforeseeable change to the KC offense. Banking on the unforeseeable occasionally works (Denver receivers in 2013), but more often than not, it doesn't.

:goodposting:

Second the "good posting"

I was super pumped after reading that article, and then FF Ninja went and threw a completely-reasonable bucket of water on it.

As a counter, there are a few immediate thoughts: Charles has 163 targets over the last two years. Partly by design of the offense, partly by Smith being so gun shy, and partly because Charles has been awesome. But he's going on 29, and probably isn't going to have another 100 target season, either.

I see Maclin for Bowe as basically treading water, at least in terms of targets and yardage. Although that may seem like disrespect for Maclin, I doubt he blows Bowe's stats out of the water (well, maybe he'll catch at least 1 TD, so there's that). But I don't think many are expecting him to be 2014 Eagles-Maclin either. Point being, I don't think Maclin is going to soak up a huge number of targets.

If Maclin treads water with Bowe in terms of targets, Charles has slightly fewer targets to keep the wear down, and Kelce gets a handful more targets due to less sharing with the TE2, he could easily get the 13 more needed to hit 100. This ain't no Brent Celek. Kelce also lines up outside a fair bit - I don't have the stats, but recall him split out wide on many occasions, often simply just to catch the TE-screen (and do his jukes and magic after the catch).

Easily TE3, especially in perceived value. Yeah, it would suck to pay that price in re-draft, but he'll be a mid-priced option in DFS (probably right around the Greg Olsen price point). That's not as hard to stomach.

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Hahaha... what? My only objection to Kelce is targets. I don't think he'll get enough to justify his ADP (TE3). Yet, in the article that is going to "eliminate my objections", check out the assumptions:

the entire argument for Kelce as a dynasty commodity rests on a few more targets per game.

If the following happens, he’ll climb into that 15 points/game tier:

  • He sees two to three more targets per game
  • He maintains an reFPOEPT in the 0.5 range

He got 87 targets last year. Two more per game would put him at 119. Three more per game would be 135. There were only six TEs with 100 or more targets. The MOST was 131 targets. So yeah, if we assume he gets the most, or close to the most, targets in the NFL for a TE while remaining very efficient, then yeah, he'll be good. Way to go out on a limb, guys!

In the last 4 years of Andy Reid coached teams, here are the team totals for TE targets (not the targets to the top TE):

96

79

83

75

Dwayne Bowe only got 95 targets last year. Do people think Maclin is going to get less than Bowe or that Smith is going to suddenly stop dumping off to the RBs? Or maybe we can steal targets from the 3rd leading WR/TE target... oh wait, that guy only got 28 targets.

I like Kelce's talent as much as the next guy, but I can't see him realistically getting much more than 100 targets without some unforeseeable change to the KC offense. Banking on the unforeseeable occasionally works (Denver receivers in 2013), but more often than not, it doesn't.

:goodposting:

Second the "good posting"

I was super pumped after reading that article, and then FF Ninja went and threw a completely-reasonable bucket of water on it.

As a counter, there are a few immediate thoughts: Charles has 163 targets over the last two years. Partly by design of the offense, partly by Smith being so gun shy, and partly because Charles has been awesome. But he's going on 29, and probably isn't going to have another 100 target season, either.

I see Maclin for Bowe as basically treading water, at least in terms of targets and yardage. Although that may seem like disrespect for Maclin, I doubt he blows Bowe's stats out of the water (well, maybe he'll catch at least 1 TD, so there's that). But I don't think many are expecting him to be 2014 Eagles-Maclin either. Point being, I don't think Maclin is going to soak up a huge number of targets.

If Maclin treads water with Bowe in terms of targets, Charles has slightly fewer targets to keep the wear down, and Kelce gets a handful more targets due to less sharing with the TE2, he could easily get the 13 more needed to hit 100. This ain't no Brent Celek. Kelce also lines up outside a fair bit - I don't have the stats, but recall him split out wide on many occasions, often simply just to catch the TE-screen (and do his jukes and magic after the catch).

Easily TE3, especially in perceived value. Yeah, it would suck to pay that price in re-draft, but he'll be a mid-priced option in DFS (probably right around the Greg Olsen price point). That's not as hard to stomach.

Although Maclin made it through an entire season in 2014, he does have a bit of an injury history, and, while it was only a minor issue in June, Maclin did miss some time at OTAs with what was described as inflammation of the foot.

Maclin is a significant upgrade over Bowe down the field, but it remains to be seen how frequently Smith will challenge opposing defenses deep.

Maclin is not likely to see a repeat of his 2014 numbers with Philadelphia, but a healthy Maclin will almost certainly better Bowe's 2014 numbers, including the 95 targets.

Where do those targets come from? Where does an increase to Kelce's targets come from?

The Chiefs ranked 28th in the league last season with a meager 493 pass attempts (the Eagles, for sake of comparison, had 621). In 2013, the Chiefs ranked 20th with 546 attempts. A projection more in line with the 2013 numbers seems more likely to me, given the upgrade at receiver. Accordingly, there will likely be a few more targets to divvy up.

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I stopped reading after this:

"There’s a tremendous disparity between TE1 and TE12. Rob Gronkowski scored 78 percent more points per game than Heath Miller. That same disparity between best and twelfth-best doesn’t exist at running back (60 percent), wide receiver (42 percent), or quarterback (27 percent)."

Apparently the author plays in 1RB, 1WR leagues.

Horrible logic...hopefully I don't have to explain why.

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  • He maintains an reFPOEPT in the 0.5 range
  • The first thing I look at when drafting players is reFPOEPT, second I go with rcFETDPGs.

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This is one of the toughest guys for me to figure out. I love his talent and owned him all last year so I know what kind of beast he is. However, his redraft spot is really high for a TE without any real track record of being more than a low end TE1 and an awful passing game.

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I'd like to hear how Kelce is going to score more than 8 touchdowns on a team that simply isn't set up to feed him in the red zone. Jimmy has shown he can score double that.

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Jimmy has shown he can being a fantasy scoring dynamo. But he's had his share of injuries, and he no longer has the great Drew Brees throwing to him. I think it's fair to worry that Russell Wilson will scramble out of pocket more often than Brees, robbing him of the potential top end targets he was getting in New Orleans. Also, down by the goal line, will RW look for Graham or handoff to Lynch. Seattle's game is built for ground domination.

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Jimmy has shown he can being a fantasy scoring dynamo. But he's had his share of injuries, and he no longer has the great Drew Brees throwing to him. I think it's fair to worry that Russell Wilson will scramble out of pocket more often than Brees, robbing him of the potential top end targets he was getting in New Orleans. Also, down by the goal line, will RW look for Graham or handoff to Lynch. Seattle's game is built for ground domination.

I think there is some chicken and egg happening with Graham and Brees. We'll see who misses whom.

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Pro Football Focus‏@PFF Jul 11

Travis Kelce's 503 yds after the catch in '14 were the 3rd most by a TE since '07. Gronk 641 in '11 Gates 506 in '09

Edit: Credit to karmarooster for posting this in the dynasty TE discussion thread.

This to me is a huge red flag. Yes, his targets could go up, but his production on the targets he had was very good, i.e. something that happens every few years and for 3 different players. I have no idea on ADP haven't looked at Kelce's, but if people are just multiplying numbers from last year (3rd best yac in 8 years) and are saying he could be better than Graham, I will not draft him. He will be way too expensive.

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I would still rank Kelce behind Graham, but it is not so ridiculous if some have Kelce as the #2 TE ahead of Graham. Some of the same arguments people are making against Kelce also apply to Jimmy Graham.

Last season, Jimmy Graham had 125 targets. That number is likely to go down a little in Seattle's more conservative offense. Russell Wilson only targeted his Tight Ends 84 times last season (for 757 yards and 6 TDs), although he obviously lacked a talent like Graham at the position. Those numbers are certain to go up some. Graham finished 2014 with 85 rec for 889 yards and 10 TDs, in a far more pass-oriented offense. I believe Graham could duplicate those yardage and TD numbers in 2015, even if his reception total regresses some.

By contrast, the Chiefs targeted Tight Ends 130 times (for 1,111 yards and 9 TDs). Kelce was targeted 87 times in what was essentially his rookie season while sharing snaps with Fasano at TE. Kelce was on the field for 66% of the Chiefs' offensive snaps, a number which should increase some with Fasano no longer in KC (although for comparison, Graham was on the field for 775 of the Saints' offensive snaps, only 68% of the team's total snaps). Kelce finished 2014 with 67 receptions for 862 yards and 5 TDs. I think it is reasonable to project an increase for his numbers in 2015.

The Seahawks and Chiefs produced similar passing numbers in 2014.

Seahawks: 287 completions on 454 attempts for 3,492 yards and 20 TDs.

Chiefs: 320 completions on 493 attempts for 3,428 yards and 18 TDs.

(For reference, Brees completed 456 of 659 attempts for 4,952 yards and and 33 TDs)

Alex Smith will utilize his Tight End, as he has done in the past with Vernon Davis in his time at San Francisco. I am confident Russell Wilson will also take advantage of Jimmy Graham's skills, especially in the redzone.

EDITED TO ADD: I would be interested in seeing projections, both for Seattle and KC, to see how the numbers for each Graham and Kelce break down. If Graham is to put up numbers in Seattle similar to what he produced in New Orleans, where are those numbers going to come from?

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Oh I agree. It's great to shoot for the moon sometimes. For the cost IF you get Kelce and IF he outperforms Graham, you definitely get a let up on the competition.

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