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The Trent Richardson Thread (2 Viewers)

Is Trent still displaying the same physical skills he had at bama (speed,strength) or has he lost some of the raw athletic talent he had as well?

 
I think he's too heavy and could really benefit by losing 10-15 pounds. He doesn't seem to have that explosiveness that he had in college.

 
Dizzy said:
So why not start Donald Brown? :shrug:

The Colts would rather start in a hole every week instead risk hurting T-Rich's feelings?
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Has nothing to do with Trent's feelings - the Colts would have to admit that they made a mistake if they started Brown.

 
duaneok66 said:
Dizzy said:
So why not start Donald Brown? :shrug:

The Colts would rather start in a hole every week instead risk hurting T-Rich's feelings?
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Has nothing to do with Trent's feelings - the Colts would have to admit that they made a mistake if they started Brown.
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Brown is a better CoP back than lead back, and he is horrible in pass protection. Luck gets hit enough as it is without Brown whiffing on blocks every passing down.

 
For what it is worth, Brown still plays on punt coverage. I'd watch for that rather than who starts if the Colts plan for Brown getting even more touches.

 
I really wish he would do the honorable thing and get arrested with 80 pounds of heroin in his car. The fact that fantasy owners are wasting a roster space on this guy is an absolute travesty.

 
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MoveToSkypager said:
jah77 said:
Trent Richardson said "I think I've been playing good."
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It's crazy isn't it? He's been there for 2 months now so there is no more excuse about learning the system. And his backup is not having any issues so even if the line is struggling there is no way it's entirely their fault. You'd imagine he'd have a little humility and say something along the lines off figuring out what's wrong and trying to get better. But no, he's satisfied. I'm surprised to see he is still 90% owned in leagues. If I were an owner I'd drop him for whatever waiver wire flavor of the week I could grab.
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Maybe he's still waiting for the cable guy?

 
MoveToSkypager said:
jah77 said:
MoveToSkypager said:
jah77 said:
Trent Richardson said "I think I've been playing good."
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It's crazy isn't it? He's been there for 2 months now so there is no more excuse about learning the system. And his backup is not having any issues so even if the line is struggling there is no way it's entirely their fault. You'd imagine he'd have a little humility and say something along the lines off figuring out what's wrong and trying to get better. But no, he's satisfied. I'm surprised to see he is still 90% owned in leagues. If I were an owner I'd drop him for whatever waiver wire flavor of the week I could grab.
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Maybe he's still waiting for the cable guy?
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I don't care who you are, that's funny right there. :lol:

 
jah77 said:
You'd imagine he'd have a little humility and say something along the lines off figuring out what's wrong and trying to get better. But no, he's satisfied.
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He's rich :moneybag: ,hung like a moose :pickle: and likes to make porn. :porked: I think he's already decided on plan B. That's my take and I think Cleveland knew it too!

 
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water1 said:
I tried to trade for Richardson in my dynasty league just a couple weeks ago and the more I think about it the more I'm glad he turned me down. Cleveland is the team that got the very best look at T-Rich and they traded him away. I know it's Cleveland but you would think lots of people in that organization were in agreement about not liking what they saw for them to pull off that move........
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I think now is time to buy low for dynasty if the owner is willing to move him ... I trade TRich a month ago for DJackson and a 2nd Round Pick and last week I reacquired him for Pierce and the 2nd back to the guy.

I think an offseason in INDI will do him well ... if not I am not out much as I have McCoy DMart Mathews and Vereen for next year

 
For those citing to Donald Brown's poor pass-blocking, I can say after watching T-Rich that he's not that proficient a pass-blocker either. Perhaps teams are jumping into the backfield on him because there is no worry that he's going to do anything but run straight forward. You plug gaps too aggressively with a RB who possesses plus vision and he will bounce it outside or cutback into another hole.

No real risk of T-Rich doing that at this point and no real fear that he's going to get to the 2nd level and break one.

 
Can anyone think of another time a guy who was pretty much a consensus 1st round fantasy pick has been droppable by this point in the season, NOT due to an injury? I'm scouring my brain and I can't think of another case like this.

 
Fat Nick said:
Can anyone think of another time a guy who was pretty much a consensus 1st round fantasy pick has been droppable by this point in the season, NOT due to an injury? I'm scouring my brain and I can't think of another case like this.
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Thomas Jones and Lawrence Phillips.

 
10tihwj said:
For those citing to Donald Brown's poor pass-blocking, I can say after watching T-Rich that he's not that proficient a pass-blocker either. Perhaps teams are jumping into the backfield on him because there is no worry that he's going to do anything but run straight forward. You plug gaps too aggressively with a RB who possesses plus vision and he will bounce it outside or cutback into another hole.

No real risk of T-Rich doing that at this point and no real fear that he's going to get to the 2nd level and break one.
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All I know is I haven't seen TRich completely miss a blocking assignment. I've seen Brown miss plenty of them and get his QB lit up. I've really liked Brown's talent most of his career in Indy, but poor pass protection has always been his Achilles' heel.

Last week the Colts ran a few designed pass plays for TRich early to get him in space; that was the first I remember seeing them do that. That's at least mildly encouraging that they're trying to mix up his usage and not just run dive plays for him.

 
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"I'm not frustrated at all because I think I've been playing good," Richardson said. "If you turn on the film, I don't have any missed assignments. I haven't had any missed reads. I've been playing good. Stuff just hasn't matched up like we thought it would when I'm in there. I think teams match up differently when I come in.

"But if (running back) Donald (Brown) is having a good day or (quarterback) Andrew (Luck) is having a good day, I think that's a good day for me even if people are keying on me. That might let Donald get going or let Andrew have a big day. That's a good day for me, too."

"If I don't have big runs because they're trying to stop the run, then I feel like I'm doing my job," he said. "Now, if I'm out there missing my reads and not blocking and not being a (complete) back, that's different. Being an all-around back, you have to be able to block, be able to catch, you just have to make plays every way you can.
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Own this steaming pile of #### in a redraft and was my first pick. It's looking like I'll have to flat out drop him and grab the flavor of the week (Rainey).

 
cstu said:
Fat Nick said:
Can anyone think of another time a guy who was pretty much a consensus 1st round fantasy pick has been droppable by this point in the season, NOT due to an injury? I'm scouring my brain and I can't think of another case like this.
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Thomas Jones and Lawrence Phillips.
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Anthony Thomas
 
I just put in a claim for a kicker, and decided Richardson was the guy on my roster most drop-worthy out of 15 other players. What a fall.

 
ldizzle said:
:porked:
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That was my reaction when I was doing it. But it had to be done. He's not startable, so why keep him? Best case scenario is that one of my upcoming opponents picks him up and sticks him in their starting line-up. I'd much rather play against him than have him play for my team.

 
Jrodicus said:
"I'm not frustrated at all because I think I've been playing good," Richardson said. "If you turn on the film, I don't have any missed assignments. I haven't had any missed reads. I've been playing good. Stuff just hasn't matched up like we thought it would when I'm in there. I think teams match up differently when I come in.

"But if (running back) Donald (Brown) is having a good day or (quarterback) Andrew (Luck) is having a good day, I think that's a good day for me even if people are keying on me. That might let Donald get going or let Andrew have a big day. That's a good day for me, too."

"If I don't have big runs because they're trying to stop the run, then I feel like I'm doing my job," he said. "Now, if I'm out there missing my reads and not blocking and not being a (complete) back, that's different. Being an all-around back, you have to be able to block, be able to catch, you just have to make plays every way you can.
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Including running the ball, Trent.

 
Finally gave up on trich in my dynasty league. Shipped him w/ kenbrell corderrell and toilolo for Fjax and Jcam (1.5 ppr for te) hated giving up patterson but jcam was worth it imo

 
In his last three games, he's rushed for 20, 2 and 22 yards. Now he faces the #2 rushing defense in the league, in Arizona. The Cardinals are giving up only 81.4 YPG on the ground. And now comes word that Richardson was limited in practice with "a calf issue."

Is this a perfect storm of hideousness or what? I'm setting his over/under this week at 12.5 yards rushing.

GO!

 
Raider Nation said:
In his last three games, he's rushed for 20, 2 and 22 yards. Now he faces the #2 rushing defense in the league, in Arizona. The Cardinals are giving up only 81.4 YPG on the ground. And now comes word that Richardson was limited in practice with "a calf issue."

Is this a perfect storm of hideousness or what? I'm setting his over/under this week at 12.5 yards rushing.

GO!
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the way fantasy goes this is the week he busts put for 100 and a td
 
shadyridr said:
Raider Nation said:
In his last three games, he's rushed for 20, 2 and 22 yards. Now he faces the #2 rushing defense in the league, in Arizona. The Cardinals are giving up only 81.4 YPG on the ground. And now comes word that Richardson was limited in practice with "a calf issue."

Is this a perfect storm of hideousness or what? I'm setting his over/under this week at 12.5 yards rushing.

GO!
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the way fantasy goes this is the week he busts put for 100 and a td
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Would be pretty much the most unlikely thing ever.

 
cstu said:
Jrodicus said:
"I'm not frustrated at all because I think I've been playing good," Richardson said. "If you turn on the film, I don't have any missed assignments. I haven't had any missed reads. I've been playing good. Stuff just hasn't matched up like we thought it would when I'm in there. I think teams match up differently when I come in.

"But if (running back) Donald (Brown) is having a good day or (quarterback) Andrew (Luck) is having a good day, I think that's a good day for me even if people are keying on me. That might let Donald get going or let Andrew have a big day. That's a good day for me, too."

"If I don't have big runs because they're trying to stop the run, then I feel like I'm doing my job," he said. "Now, if I'm out there missing my reads and not blocking and not being a (complete) back, that's different. Being an all-around back, you have to be able to block, be able to catch, you just have to make plays every way you can.
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Truly remarkable if Trent believes this.

He's had multiple horribly missed blocking assignments. Scary to think he doesn't realize these gaffes. Guy couldn't have done a worse job had his eyes been closed. Colts staff only showing him his game tapes from Alabama still??

 
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Raider Nation said:
In his last three games, he's rushed for 20, 2 and 22 yards. Now he faces the #2 rushing defense in the league, in Arizona. The Cardinals are giving up only 81.4 YPG on the ground. And now comes word that Richardson was limited in practice with "a calf issue."

Is this a perfect storm of hideousness or what? I'm setting his over/under this week at 12.5 yards rushing.

GO!
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Raider Nation said:
In his last three games, he's rushed for 20, 2 and 22 yards. Now he faces the #2 rushing defense in the league, in Arizona. The Cardinals are giving up only 81.4 YPG on the ground. And now comes word that Richardson was limited in practice with "a calf issue."

Is this a perfect storm of hideousness or what? I'm setting his over/under this week at 12.5 yards rushing.

GO!
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I'm still hoping he gets arrested with 80lbs of heroin in his car.
 
The only thing worse than listening to the TRich haters will be listening to the closet TRich lovers that will come out of the woodwork if he puts up a decent stat line sometime this season.

I've dropped him in redraft; I'm buying him in dynasty.

 
SproutDaddy said:
cstu said:
Fat Nick said:
Can anyone think of another time a guy who was pretty much a consensus 1st round fantasy pick has been droppable by this point in the season, NOT due to an injury? I'm scouring my brain and I can't think of another case like this.
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Thomas Jones and Lawrence Phillips.
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Anthony Thomas
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T. Jones - Admittedly, I'd kill for TJ's 896 yds and 6 TD's at this point. I don't think I'd consider TJ droppable in 2010...not up to expectations, sure...but not droppable.

Lawrence Phillips - Was he ever 1st round Fantasy material? Honest question as this was about 2 years before I really got into FFBall. I feel like he may have had 1 decent season before he got into trouble.

Anthony Thomas - Same as Phillps - Was he ever 1st round material? I'm assuming you're referring to the 2003 season and 2004 decline. Everybody knew they acquired T. Jones, so I doubt someone would've spent a 1st rounder on a guy in a time-share...there were plenty of Stud RB's back then.

 
Fat Nick said:
SproutDaddy said:
cstu said:
Fat Nick said:
Can anyone think of another time a guy who was pretty much a consensus 1st round fantasy pick has been droppable by this point in the season, NOT due to an injury? I'm scouring my brain and I can't think of another case like this.
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Thomas Jones and Lawrence Phillips.
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Anthony Thomas
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T. Jones - Admittedly, I'd kill for TJ's 896 yds and 6 TD's at this point. I don't think I'd consider TJ droppable in 2010...not up to expectations, sure...but not droppable.

Lawrence Phillips - Was he ever 1st round Fantasy material? Honest question as this was about 2 years before I really got into FFBall. I feel like he may have had 1 decent season before he got into trouble.

Anthony Thomas - Same as Phillps - Was he ever 1st round material? I'm assuming you're referring to the 2003 season and 2004 decline. Everybody knew they acquired T. Jones, so I doubt someone would've spent a 1st rounder on a guy in a time-share...there were plenty of Stud RB's back then.
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Phillips had character issues but he was extremely talented:

``He's the best running back in the draft,'' said Dwight Adams, director of player personnel for the Buffalo Bills.

Phillips (5 feet 11, 229 pounds), who will be 21 in May, is an outstanding open-field runner who also has the strength to drag tacklers. He has quickness to the outside, is a willing blockerand has a 35-inch vertical leap. He runs the 40-yard dash in 4.48 seconds.

As a sophomore, Phillips finished third in the nation in rushing with 1,722 yards, averaging 143 yards.

``He is a tremendous talent with allthe physical and athletic talents NFL clubs are looking for in a franchise-type running back,'' draft analyst Mel Kiper Jr. said. ``Phillips is in a class by himself when it comes to natural talent.
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As for the A-Train, the debate was between LT and Deuce for the best RB in the draft. There were also a lot of people who thought Michael Bennett was better than Thomas.

 
Kool-Aid Larry said:
Raider Nation said:
In his last three games, he's rushed for 20, 2 and 22 yards. Now he faces the #2 rushing defense in the league, in Arizona. The Cardinals are giving up only 81.4 YPG on the ground. And now comes word that Richardson was limited in practice with "a calf issue."

Is this a perfect storm of hideousness or what? I'm setting his over/under this week at 12.5 yards rushing.

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:thumbdown:

You were WAY off!

7 carries, 15 yards.

 
3 carries of more than 10 yards on the season (long 16). Last one coming more than a month ago.

Just 2 carries of more than 20 yards on his career (both last season).

 
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