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I don't know a lot about him but if he has a decent game against this defense his stock will soar.

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This move actually worries me more than if they started Yates or Schaub.

I'd be worried if Kubiak opens up the playbook. Case has that chutzpah. I have him stashed in all my keeper/dynastys. He killed it in camp/preseason. And they only reason he wasn't the #2 is b/c of Kubiak's loyal to a fault approach to handling personell.

Major will go on the record saying 280 yds passing, 32 Rushing and 3 TDs.

All of your credibility just flew out the window. :lmao:

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Is Keenum being setup to fail? Playing the #1 defense in their home turf is not how you want your rookie QB to start his first NFL game. Maybe the coaching staff is unhappy with the fans reaction to Schaub and want to shut them up for good.

I do own Keenum and think this is not the ideal start for him. I hope I am wrong.

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Is Keenum being setup to fail? Playing the #1 defense in their home turf is not how you want your rookie QB to start his first NFL game. Maybe the coaching staff is unhappy with the fans reaction to Schaub and want to shut them up for good.

I do own Keenum and think this is not the ideal start for him. I hope I am wrong.

Yeah, Kubiak loyal to a fault and could be a pressure/I told you he wasn't that good move to prove us Schaub haters wrong. That being said, I think HOU can upset the Chiefs w/ the rook. I'm going to be betting on this game with the high spread....

And I was joking about that stat line I proposed earlier but I think Case be good at home and against weaker defenses. I drafted him in the last round of all keeper/dynasty leagues for this reason.

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IF he survives this week without a season ending injury and his ego isn't too damaged after getting strip sacked 10 times and throwing 3-4 pick 6's then maybe he can be something for Houston. Have you forgotten the defense that this kid is facing this week? Kubiak is throwing and undrafted rookie from their practice squad into the fire this week against a ferocious defense right up there with Seattle (if not better than).

Good luck kid.

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IF he survives this week without a season ending injury and his ego isn't too damaged after getting strip sacked 10 times and throwing 3-4 pick 6's then maybe he can be something for Houston. Have you forgotten the defense that this kid is facing this week? Kubiak is throwing and undrafted rookie from their practice squad into the fire this week against a ferocious defense right up there with Seattle (if not better than).

Good luck kid.

You guys talking loud but really ain't saying shiiieeet. Rookie, blah blah, defense....If you watched Case play, you'll see this guy has the testicular fortitude to succeed against the NFL's best. I'm just worried about his first game being at Arrowhead. At home, Case kills it.

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IF he survives this week without a season ending injury and his ego isn't too damaged after getting strip sacked 10 times and throwing 3-4 pick 6's then maybe he can be something for Houston. Have you forgotten the defense that this kid is facing this week? Kubiak is throwing and undrafted rookie from their practice squad into the fire this week against a ferocious defense right up there with Seattle (if not better than).

Good luck kid.

You guys talking loud but really ain't saying shiiieeet. Rookie, blah blah, defense....If you watched Case play, you'll see this guy has the testicular fortitude to succeed against the NFL's best. I'm just worried about his first game being at Arrowhead. At home, Case kills it.

LOL you just reiterated my point. You are worried about his FIRST game being at Arrowhead. My point exactly. I know nothing about this kid. But If I had a gun to my head to place a bet and was told that an undrafted FA rookie was being promoted from the practice squad to face the chiefs at arrowhead in his first ever nfl action, I'd bet that the Chiefs D gets the best of him in a very very big way.

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IF he survives this week without a season ending injury and his ego isn't too damaged after getting strip sacked 10 times and throwing 3-4 pick 6's then maybe he can be something for Houston. Have you forgotten the defense that this kid is facing this week? Kubiak is throwing and undrafted rookie from their practice squad into the fire this week against a ferocious defense right up there with Seattle (if not better than).

Good luck kid.

You guys talking loud but really ain't saying shiiieeet. Rookie, blah blah, defense....If you watched Case play, you'll see this guy has the testicular fortitude to succeed against the NFL's best. I'm just worried about his first game being at Arrowhead. At home, Case kills it.

LOL you just reiterated my point. You are worried about his FIRST game being at Arrowhead. My point exactly. I know nothing about this kid. But If I had a gun to my head to place a bet and was told that an undrafted FA rookie was being promoted from the practice squad to face the chiefs at arrowhead in his first ever nfl action, I'd bet that the Chiefs D gets the best of him in a very very big way.

this guy is like Rudy mixed with Brady. Never underestimate the heart of a champion #htown

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Major you are ####in high.

Hey yewww, get off mi cloud...you don't know me and you don't know my style #gzashark

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A lot of it is just instinct and what I see being a pseudo scout. His arm is a helluvalot stronger than Schaub's. Remember he was hurt his senior year at UH. His arm has healed wonderfully and stronger than ever. Most of the scouting on him is done pre injury UH before he really developed. Just my 2 pence. Worthy gamble in dynasty/keeper leagues and brings hope to Texans fans.

:confused: The season-ending injury his senior year was to his ACL.

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Did you just put Romo and Schaub in the same sentence??

Yes. Until this season, they were both the same QB - softer than wet cake with a pony tail for a heart. Schaub has regressed, Romo still chokes. Ain't a damn ting changed, son.

I thought this was an interesting thread, but this statement basically shows you are just making stuff up.

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IF he survives this week without a season ending injury and his ego isn't too damaged after getting strip sacked 10 times and throwing 3-4 pick 6's then maybe he can be something for Houston. Have you forgotten the defense that this kid is facing this week? Kubiak is throwing and undrafted rookie from their practice squad into the fire this week against a ferocious defense right up there with Seattle (if not better than).

Good luck kid.

You guys talking loud but really ain't saying shiiieeet. Rookie, blah blah, defense....If you watched Case play, you'll see this guy has the testicular fortitude to succeed against the NFL's best. I'm just worried about his first game being at Arrowhead. At home, Case kills it.

LOL you just reiterated my point. You are worried about his FIRST game being at Arrowhead. My point exactly. I know nothing about this kid. But If I had a gun to my head to place a bet and was told that an undrafted FA rookie was being promoted from the practice squad to face the chiefs at arrowhead in his first ever nfl action, I'd bet that the Chiefs D gets the best of him in a very very big way.

this guy is like Rudy mixed with Brady. Never underestimate the heart of a champion #htown

So you are saying they are going to make another movie about a kid that played 1 game of football that means nothing in the grand scheme of things?

Sean Astin is a little old, who do you think will play Case?

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Did you just put Romo and Schaub in the same sentence??

Yes. Until this season, they were both the same QB - softer than wet cake with a pony tail for a heart. Schaub has regressed, Romo still chokes. Ain't a damn ting changed, son.

I thought this was an interesting thread, but this statement basically shows you are just making stuff up.

It's still an entertaining thread though. It's not like, "good information that can help your fantasy team" interesting but it's funny at least.

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Did you just put Romo and Schaub in the same sentence??

Yes. Until this season, they were both the same QB - softer than wet cake with a pony tail for a heart. Schaub has regressed, Romo still chokes. Ain't a damn ting changed, son.

I thought this was an interesting thread, but this statement basically shows you are just making stuff up.

It's still an entertaining thread though. It's not like, "good information that can help your fantasy team" interesting but it's funny at least.

yeah I wish it was always this easy to tell between "homer with good information" and "drunk guy making up information"

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Everything I have seen so far this season tells me Case will succeed. Nothing to do with Case himself, but rather simply the looming 'Get on the Case' Free Agent advice from CBS and elsewhere.

Just because it seems so unlikely, such an impossible task...Case will look good vs KC, in probably a losing effort, yet still secure the starting job.

Nothing but pure gut instinct: 305 yards passing, 2 Pa TDs, 2 INTs, 25 yards rushing. One of the PaTDs comes in garbage time.

KC wins 31 to 20.

Going forward, Case plays like a B+ guy, flashes of brilliance. He's your starter in 2014 for the Texans, saving a QB Draft pick in the first two rounds.

Schaub's time is over.

If only because I missed the boat on Keenum in every league I am in...this is what will happen. Mark my words.

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Everything I have seen so far this season tells me Case will succeed. Nothing to do with Case himself, but rather simply the looming 'Get on the Case' Free Agent advice from CBS and elsewhere.

Just because it seems so unlikely, such an impossible task...Case will look good vs KC, in probably a losing effort, yet still secure the starting job.

Nothing but pure gut instinct: 305 yards passing, 2 Pa TDs, 2 INTs, 25 yards rushing. One of the PaTDs comes in garbage time.

KC wins 31 to 20.

Going forward, Case plays like a B+ guy, flashes of brilliance. He's your starter in 2014 for the Texans, saving a QB Draft pick in the first two rounds.

Schaub's time is over.

If only because I missed the boat on Keenum in every league I am in...this is what will happen. Mark my words.

:crazy: Pump the brakes there. He hasn't seen a single down of regular season NFL action.

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Someone asked about the O-line. The Texans O-line is decent in the run game, but right tackle Derek Newton is getting beat badly much of the time and Justin Houston and Tamba Hali may feast on him. I hope the Texans will go with Ryan Harris at RT instead. LG was a Pro Bowler last year but isn't playing as well this year. Chris Meyers is one of the best centers in the NFL but I won't be surprised if he has some troubles with the size/strength of the Chief's tackles. Though having massive RG Brandon Brooks may help him out there some.

Worth noting though that while Yates and Schaub are both kind of plodders, Keenum is mobile. So if they are having offensive line problems, Keenum might have an edge over the other QBs. Though for a rookie you'd much rather give him time to throw.

For those asking whether Kubiak is setting him up to fail... I'd ask you this. Put yourself in Gary Kubiak's shoes. You very likely may be fired at the end of this season if you don't turn the team around. With your job on the line, would you give away a game to try to shut up the small segment of fans that were cheering Schaub's injury? I hope not. The Texans saw enough in Keenum in preseason to keep him on the normal roster despite not liking to carry 3 QBs. They knew he would be picked up if they tried to get him to the practice squad. Far more likely Kubiak is grasping at straws than setting him up to fail. But I don't think it's grasping at straws either. Yates and Keenum played pretty much even in preseason. Throw in Keenum's mobility and that he's a less-known quantity, and that he has the personality intangibles and I think it's obvious he's worth a try if Schaub isn't ready to go. It's possible neither Yates nor Keenum will ever be starter caliber, but I think Keenum's ceiling is higher if he can handle the rest of the things a QB needs to do well.

As for what to expect this game... I imagine Kubiak will be extremely conservative. He's going to try to keep it to short throws and manageable situations and not make Keenum have to go out and win the game with his arm. Which if he does, he's pretty much just amplifying some of the predictability shortcomings that have let other defenses this year feast on Schaub. But I'm going to be surprised if that is not the case. He did it with Yates when he had to fill in for Schaub 2 years ago. Against Indy I think Yates might have only attempted one pass over 10 yards. Now if they are behind and have to throw to catch up, sure Kubiak will open it up more. But I definitely would not expect Houston to air it out until forced to. They'll try to go with their strengths, run the ball well and go play action. There may be big plays off play action, sure, but I wouldn't expect Air Coryell.

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yeah the set up for fail thing doesn't make any sense. kubiak didn't pick the schedule or get schaub hurt intentionally last week (i don't think he did anyway)

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Wonder if Schaub is done or will he get his job back when healthy. I guess we will know after Sunday.

I think this is a tough situation to read - having Keenum make his first start on the road against a tough defensive team, is almost setting him up to fail.

If Keenum plays well, he could Tebow himself into the starting gig the rest of the year. If he struggles, as expected, I would think Schaub gets his job back.

I think Kubiak is hedging his bets. By starting Keenum in the worst of possible conditions he is banking on one of two things happening. Keenum getting overwhelmed by the speed of the game and having a horrible performance. This would allow him to quiet the fans and heal Schaub up over the bye and go back to the status quo. Or if Keenum pulls off the miracle win, Kubiak can commit to him and has 2 weeks over the bye to really get him ready.

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IF he survives this week without a season ending injury and his ego isn't too damaged after getting strip sacked 10 times and throwing 3-4 pick 6's then maybe he can be something for Houston. Have you forgotten the defense that this kid is facing this week? Kubiak is throwing and undrafted rookie from their practice squad into the fire this week against a ferocious defense right up there with Seattle (if not better than).

Good luck kid.

You guys talking loud but really ain't saying shiiieeet. Rookie, blah blah, defense....If you watched Case play, you'll see this guy has the testicular fortitude to succeed against the NFL's best. I'm just worried about his first game being at Arrowhead. At home, Case kills it.

LOL you just reiterated my point. You are worried about his FIRST game being at Arrowhead. My point exactly. I know nothing about this kid. But If I had a gun to my head to place a bet and was told that an undrafted FA rookie was being promoted from the practice squad to face the chiefs at arrowhead in his first ever nfl action, I'd bet that the Chiefs D gets the best of him in a very very big way.

I don't disagree with the Arrowhead part, but Keenum is not a rookie, and has been on the active roster all season.

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Did you just put Romo and Schaub in the same sentence??

Yes. Until this season, they were both the same QB - softer than wet cake with a pony tail for a heart. Schaub has regressed, Romo still chokes. Ain't a damn ting changed, son.

I thought this was an interesting thread, but this statement basically shows you are just making stuff up.

It's still an entertaining thread though. It's not like, "good information that can help your fantasy team" interesting but it's funny at least.

yeah I wish it was always this easy to tell between "homer with good information" and "drunk guy making up information"

One piece of homer advice on Keenum, he has a much much better deep ball than Schaub, and has shown a willingness to go down field. This may benefit Hopkins with his leaping ability. Also since Keenum is so much more mobile than Schaub, those bootlegs Kubiak likes so much might have another dimension.

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IF he survives this week without a season ending injury and his ego isn't too damaged after getting strip sacked 10 times and throwing 3-4 pick 6's then maybe he can be something for Houston. Have you forgotten the defense that this kid is facing this week? Kubiak is throwing and undrafted rookie from their practice squad into the fire this week against a ferocious defense right up there with Seattle (if not better than).

Good luck kid.

You guys talking loud but really ain't saying shiiieeet. Rookie, blah blah, defense....If you watched Case play, you'll see this guy has the testicular fortitude to succeed against the NFL's best. I'm just worried about his first game being at Arrowhead. At home, Case kills it.

LOL you just reiterated my point. You are worried about his FIRST game being at Arrowhead. My point exactly. I know nothing about this kid. But If I had a gun to my head to place a bet and was told that an undrafted FA rookie was being promoted from the practice squad to face the chiefs at arrowhead in his first ever nfl action, I'd bet that the Chiefs D gets the best of him in a very very big way.

I don't disagree with the Arrowhead part, but Keenum is not a rookie, and has been on the active roster all season.

When you are making your first NFL start, and you spent your first year on the practice squad, you are the same as a Rookie. He has been on the active roster this year, but most likely not getting any practice reps other than the scout team, until this week.

I have Keenum on my roster in a dynasty league, but I am not encouraged by the decision to start him now. I think if the Texans thought he was the QB of the future, they would have started Yates this week, and then come back with Kennum after the Bye. That would have given him two weeks to prepare as a starter instead of a 1/2 week.

I hope he plays well this weekend, but I don't think the Texans view him as their future QB right now.

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IF he survives this week without a season ending injury and his ego isn't too damaged after getting strip sacked 10 times and throwing 3-4 pick 6's then maybe he can be something for Houston. Have you forgotten the defense that this kid is facing this week? Kubiak is throwing and undrafted rookie from their practice squad into the fire this week against a ferocious defense right up there with Seattle (if not better than).

Good luck kid.

You guys talking loud but really ain't saying shiiieeet. Rookie, blah blah, defense....If you watched Case play, you'll see this guy has the testicular fortitude to succeed against the NFL's best. I'm just worried about his first game being at Arrowhead. At home, Case kills it.

LOL you just reiterated my point. You are worried about his FIRST game being at Arrowhead. My point exactly. I know nothing about this kid. But If I had a gun to my head to place a bet and was told that an undrafted FA rookie was being promoted from the practice squad to face the chiefs at arrowhead in his first ever nfl action, I'd bet that the Chiefs D gets the best of him in a very very big way.

I don't disagree with the Arrowhead part, but Keenum is not a rookie, and has been on the active roster all season.

When you are making your first NFL start, and you spent your first year on the practice squad, you are the same as a Rookie. He has been on the active roster this year, but most likely not getting any practice reps other than the scout team, until this week.

I have Keenum on my roster in a dynasty league, but I am not encouraged by the decision to start him now. I think if the Texans thought he was the QB of the future, they would have started Yates this week, and then come back with Kennum after the Bye. That would have given him two weeks to prepare as a starter instead of a 1/2 week.

I hope he plays well this weekend, but I don't think the Texans view him as their future QB right now.

There is a huge difference in knowledge and comfort in the system from a rookie to a second year guy. Keenum's improvement from last year to this is why he pushed Yates for the backup job in camp this year. Kubiak is just a stickler for staying with his vets. No one is claiming he is the second coming of Jesus or even Tebojesus, but my point is there is a big difference between a real rookie and a second year guy without many reps.

I don't personally think he is the QB of the future, but sometimes the only thing separating two guys is opportunity. No one in Houston thought Foster was who he is when he was on the practice squad his rookie year either.

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I think a lot of people are going to be in shock when the Texans win this game or, at least, play it pretty close.

THe recipe on this one is easy to see.

The Texans will run the legs off Foster and Tate in this game. THe hand has already been tipped. Foster was held from practice yesterday. They do this when they plan a heavy workload.

Case is a mobile QB. They are going to have the run and a moving pocket offset the KC rush. THey are not going to set him back there and let one of the best defenses in the league tee off on him. THey will run, run, run, move around in the pocket a bit to establish a new launch point, take time off the clock, and keep it close and try to get a win.

As good as the Chiefs record is, they aren't an air-it-out team so the Texans can employ a strategy like this and play rope-a-dope all game and people may be forgetting that the Texans have a pretty good defense in their own right.

This game has 21-17 or 27-24 written all over it with Case managing the game just enough to look like the Texans have something here.

The x-factor in this game is going to be if the Texans can run and they can actually hit a big play-action play here or there OR if Case can hurt the Chiefs with his feet, he may actually come out of this game with some Hoyer-like buzz after this one. I can definitely see the legs hurting the Chiefs. I am sure that defense is licking its chops thinking they are just going to pin their ears back and pressure him all day and when teams crash that edge and get too aggressive, it opens up major running lanes for the QB or for a back coming out of the backfield.

The only way I think this game doesn't follow that script is if ST or a big play pops up somewhere and the Texans DO find themselves down big and forced to air it out. THen the Chiefs probably will tee off on him but as long as it remains close, I'd bet my money on the under on this one and feel pretty good about the Texans covering.

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Is anyone benching Andre this week? And if you are, for who?

Starting his first game, going against the toughest defense @ Arrowhead. Tough benching Andre but I think I may do it this week.

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Is anyone benching Andre this week? And if you are, for who?

Starting his first game, going against the toughest defense @ Arrowhead. Tough benching Andre but I think I may do it this week.

I am benching him for T.Y. Hilton so I know I probably have a luxury choice a lot of people don't have.

To explore the question further and establish a line of about where (who) you substitute him for, I would say Steve Smith is the balancing point. I am not taking him out for Stevie Johnson, Emmanuel Sanders, Aaron Dobson, Leonard Hankerson or other guys that have been up and down here or there, but I would for guys that generally are know to be steady in commanding at least targets, even if it doesn't translate into receptions every week (hence, being ok with T.Y. Hilton).§

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This is going to be like the story of david and goliath except david is going to miss with his sling shot and goliath is going to chop David in half.

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I think a lot of people are going to be in shock when the Texans win this game or, at least, play it pretty close.

THe recipe on this one is easy to see.

The Texans will run the legs off Foster and Tate in this game. THe hand has already been tipped. Foster was held from practice yesterday. They do this when they plan a heavy workload.

Case is a mobile QB. They are going to have the run and a moving pocket offset the KC rush. THey are not going to set him back there and let one of the best defenses in the league tee off on him. THey will run, run, run, move around in the pocket a bit to establish a new launch point, take time off the clock, and keep it close and try to get a win.

As good as the Chiefs record is, they aren't an air-it-out team so the Texans can employ a strategy like this and play rope-a-dope all game and people may be forgetting that the Texans have a pretty good defense in their own right.

This game has 21-17 or 27-24 written all over it with Case managing the game just enough to look like the Texans have something here.

The x-factor in this game is going to be if the Texans can run and they can actually hit a big play-action play here or there OR if Case can hurt the Chiefs with his feet, he may actually come out of this game with some Hoyer-like buzz after this one. I can definitely see the legs hurting the Chiefs. I am sure that defense is licking its chops thinking they are just going to pin their ears back and pressure him all day and when teams crash that edge and get too aggressive, it opens up major running lanes for the QB or for a back coming out of the backfield.

The only way I think this game doesn't follow that script is if ST or a big play pops up somewhere and the Texans DO find themselves down big and forced to air it out. THen the Chiefs probably will tee off on him but as long as it remains close, I'd bet my money on the under on this one and feel pretty good about the Texans covering.

I like alot of this, but I will add that I think the biggest factor for the game is going to be turnovers for Houston. Houston is giving up turnovers at one of the worse rates in the league, and KC is getting takeaways at one of the best rates in the league. Its a recipe for disaster. So if Houston finds a way to not turn the ball over, I think they will have a real chance, because Alex Smith is a game manager relying on his defense to do all the legwork for him.

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Hey Guys

I don't think theres no discounting actual playing time at NFL speed. But a poorly planned course on offense, could make most any defense look like the Chiefs. The Texans do have some D themselves, so its quite possible that such a crash course in the NFL, may turn out better then some appear to believe. Hopefully Case isn't responsible for too many turnovers, and is able to let his defense limit the Chiefs to 14 points?

We also must consider the fact that the Chiefs D may take this situation as easy pickins. But Im not the biggest fan of Schaub tbh. I believe a healthy Schuab would be lit up by the Chiefs, both physically and in picks.

However Im not sold on expecting a Hoyer type stranglehold on the position. Schaub is quoted as saying that he heard a pop in his ankle? In other words, I agree that this could be considered a start due to injury. But the door is open, or the opportunity is present. Basically I believe the Texans would enjoy running an option play now and again w that OLine. (just not so much this wk)

Id consider looking at some of the highlight videos on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qall2WwWg8o The biggest kick I got was hearing his fav NFL QB is KOLB. But youll see the energy that AJ references, mentioned above.

p.s. imho this is a classic case of prejudging a guy who doesn't measure up height-wise. Also on a side note, I had Case in my lineup, the day before he was announced the starter. But Im starting the Chiefs Def/ST..

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I think a lot of people are going to be in shock when the Texans win this game or, at least, play it pretty close.

THe recipe on this one is easy to see.

The Texans will run the legs off Foster and Tate in this game. THe hand has already been tipped. Foster was held from practice yesterday. They do this when they plan a heavy workload.

Case is a mobile QB. They are going to have the run and a moving pocket offset the KC rush. THey are not going to set him back there and let one of the best defenses in the league tee off on him. THey will run, run, run, move around in the pocket a bit to establish a new launch point, take time off the clock, and keep it close and try to get a win.

As good as the Chiefs record is, they aren't an air-it-out team so the Texans can employ a strategy like this and play rope-a-dope all game and people may be forgetting that the Texans have a pretty good defense in their own right.

This game has 21-17 or 27-24 written all over it with Case managing the game just enough to look like the Texans have something here.

The x-factor in this game is going to be if the Texans can run and they can actually hit a big play-action play here or there OR if Case can hurt the Chiefs with his feet, he may actually come out of this game with some Hoyer-like buzz after this one. I can definitely see the legs hurting the Chiefs. I am sure that defense is licking its chops thinking they are just going to pin their ears back and pressure him all day and when teams crash that edge and get too aggressive, it opens up major running lanes for the QB or for a back coming out of the backfield.

The only way I think this game doesn't follow that script is if ST or a big play pops up somewhere and the Texans DO find themselves down big and forced to air it out. THen the Chiefs probably will tee off on him but as long as it remains close, I'd bet my money on the under on this one and feel pretty good about the Texans covering.

Pretty much the way I see it. The Chiefs offense is really horrible, and the Texans defense may end up with some defensive scores on their own. The Chiefs also have this annoying habit of playing like crap for three quarters only to pull away in the 4th.

If they allow Houston to hang around, this could be bad for the Chiefs. Throw in the mindset of: we're awesome and playing a rookie QB, and this one has all the makings of the classic trap game.

I think Houston wins this thing: something like 24-17.

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Is anyone benching Andre this week? And if you are, for who?

Starting his first game, going against the toughest defense @ Arrowhead. Tough benching Andre but I think I may do it this week.

I am benching him for T.Y. Hilton so I know I probably have a luxury choice a lot of people don't have.

To explore the question further and establish a line of about where (who) you substitute him for, I would say Steve Smith is the balancing point. I am not taking him out for Stevie Johnson, Emmanuel Sanders, Aaron Dobson, Leonard Hankerson or other guys that have been up and down here or there, but I would for guys that generally are know to be steady in commanding at least targets, even if it doesn't translate into receptions every week (hence, being ok with T.Y. Hilton).§

What about the company of Thompkins/TBMike/Wright/TerranceWill or any other WR3?

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I think a lot of people are going to be in shock when the Texans win this game or, at least, play it pretty close.

THe recipe on this one is easy to see.

The Texans will run the legs off Foster and Tate in this game. THe hand has already been tipped. Foster was held from practice yesterday. They do this when they plan a heavy workload.

Case is a mobile QB. They are going to have the run and a moving pocket offset the KC rush. THey are not going to set him back there and let one of the best defenses in the league tee off on him. THey will run, run, run, move around in the pocket a bit to establish a new launch point, take time off the clock, and keep it close and try to get a win.

As good as the Chiefs record is, they aren't an air-it-out team so the Texans can employ a strategy like this and play rope-a-dope all game and people may be forgetting that the Texans have a pretty good defense in their own right.

This game has 21-17 or 27-24 written all over it with Case managing the game just enough to look like the Texans have something here.

The x-factor in this game is going to be if the Texans can run and they can actually hit a big play-action play here or there OR if Case can hurt the Chiefs with his feet, he may actually come out of this game with some Hoyer-like buzz after this one. I can definitely see the legs hurting the Chiefs. I am sure that defense is licking its chops thinking they are just going to pin their ears back and pressure him all day and when teams crash that edge and get too aggressive, it opens up major running lanes for the QB or for a back coming out of the backfield.

The only way I think this game doesn't follow that script is if ST or a big play pops up somewhere and the Texans DO find themselves down big and forced to air it out. THen the Chiefs probably will tee off on him but as long as it remains close, I'd bet my money on the under on this one and feel pretty good about the Texans covering.

Agree with the texans' game plan this sunday. But don't agree with the score. This might be a shutout. KC is going to obliterate them.

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If the Texans offense scores more than 20 points I will eat my hat. The Chiefs defense will crush this kid.

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His middle name should be changed to "In Point"...if it is not already.

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Is anyone benching Andre this week? And if you are, for who?

Starting his first game, going against the toughest defense @ Arrowhead. Tough benching Andre but I think I may do it this week.

I am benching him for T.Y. Hilton so I know I probably have a luxury choice a lot of people don't have.

To explore the question further and establish a line of about where (who) you substitute him for, I would say Steve Smith is the balancing point. I am not taking him out for Stevie Johnson, Emmanuel Sanders, Aaron Dobson, Leonard Hankerson or other guys that have been up and down here or there, but I would for guys that generally are know to be steady in commanding at least targets, even if it doesn't translate into receptions every week (hence, being ok with T.Y. Hilton).§

What about the company of Thompkins/TBMike/Wright/TerranceWill or any other WR3?

Each one of those listed are ones I thought of and seem like true coin flips (very borderline).

Mike Williams and Terrance Williams seem very strong candidates to replace Andre this week.

With Gronkowski returning, all bets are off in New England. §

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Chiefs D/ST should be a great play once again this week. I'd definitely be nervous as an Andre owner and there's no way I'd trust Hopkins even as a flex/WR3 play.

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Tough first game for Keenum, I'm a bit surprised that they went away from Yates. If HOU struggles to establish a running game, it's over. KC plays primarily Cover 1 and can drop either S to the box .

Putting a player into the best position to win is not the way this will go down, into the fire is more like it.

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