Especially strange when there were only 1 punt apiece. Both teams moved the ball well, but neither qb made a lot of great throws.
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QB Marcus Mariota, WAS (2 Viewers)
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jurb26
Footballguy
I think Winston has made 3 great throws. Mariota has made none.
rdrouyn
Footballguy
However, one of them was making Andy Dalton level bad throws and missing open receivers.
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FUBAR
Footballguy
jurb26
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jurb26
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cstu
Footballguy
Whatever.
Must have been hard to fit that pass into the 10 yd window he had.
sporthenry
Footballguy
Yeah, he's no NFL QB finding open receivers and what not.cstu said:Whatever.jurb26 said:cstu said:
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rdrouyn
Footballguy
He has skill no doubt. Still questionable whether his skills will translate to the NFL. RG3 and Kaepernik aren't looking too hot nowadays and they are better prospects than Mariotta.
mr roboto
Footballguy
Kaep absolutely wasn't. RG3 it's debatable.
cstu
Footballguy
Griffin was great before tearing his knee. Unlike Griffin, who tore his ACL at Baylor, the biggest injury Mariota has had is a strained MCL.
mr roboto
Footballguy
We'll see who grades out better as a prospect. This is something you could compare based on grades from various draftniks and scouts. Like this one http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000442640/article/scout-marcus-mariota-will-grade-higher-than-rgiii
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rdrouyn
Footballguy
RG3 is like Mariotta + an accurate deep ball.
Also this time of the year is when the scouts throw out crazy statements like that.
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mr roboto
Footballguy
I'M NOT SAYING WHO I LIKE BETTER. I'M SAYING IT'S DEBATABLE WHICH ONE IS THE BETTER PROSPECT. THAT'S A STATEMENT OF SCOUT OPINION AND CONSENSUS AROUND APRIL. This isn't that hard. The poster I quoted claimed RG3 and Kaep were better prospects. Kaep demonstrably was not. RG3 it's debatable.
rdrouyn
Footballguy
Sorry brah, was just disagreeing with your scout there. You might want to take a chill pill.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
I wouldn't draft him.
mr roboto
Footballguy
Like at all? Weren't you all in on the JFF train?
mr roboto
Footballguy
My bad. You're right though. Mariota doesn't show enough NFL reads and passes because of their offense.
sporthenry
Footballguy
This is true but its impossible to gauge it really. Obviously, if this was as easy as people make it out to be, then Ryan Leaf wouldn't happen. I think Jameis and Mariota both have some questions about them. Jameis has more of the standard NFL QB tools but Mariota can do some things too. Maybe he isn't as good of a prospect as RGIII but if he is close to RGIII as a rookie and actually develops further, he could be really good. I think the biggest issue will be his offense. RGIII might have regressed but they are also shoving a square peg in a circular hole now. If you implement some of Oregon's offense, you might get success.
GoBirds
Footballguy
The mobility is a big benefit you dont get with Winston either. While you dont want him to be RG3 that could only run the option look at how succesful Wilson has been in Seattle.
cstu
Footballguy
rdrouyn
Footballguy
Wilson played in a pro offense in Wisconsin and made throws in the pocket. Both are things that Mariotta hasnt done. He is a lot more of a project than Wilson.
ptsteelers
Footballguy
cstu
Footballguy
HittinHard
Footballguy
I think Mariota could be a pretty good NFL QB.
If he gets good coaching to work on parts of his game i think he has what it takes.
If he gets good coaching to work on parts of his game i think he has what it takes.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Seems weird to say that when comparing a likely top 3 pick (possibly #1) to a 3rd round pick, but you're right. Frankly though, the combination of getting drafted to an otherwise elite team, with a very good coach and coming in without much expectations, won't happen here. Add to that his being raw and he's extremely unlikely to mirror Wilson's success. Maybe if he dropped to KC... (but that won't happen).
Felt the same way. Disappointing as I also want one of these guys to look better. Let's see how MM plays against tOSU.
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
I feel that Mariota is just another Johnny talent wise. Only a little more humble and quiet. When are some going to learn, the time has come and gone for running QBs in the NFL not named Wilson. Do not compare a college player to a SB winning QB, that would be embarrassing.
I like Winston more even though yesterdays game was not his shining moment. Winston had his faults but man I have never seen so many drops in my life.
I like Winston more even though yesterdays game was not his shining moment. Winston had his faults but man I have never seen so many drops in my life.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Did you guys think the Ducks were going to come out and run a pro style offense in this game? He plays in the offense he plays in. There isn't much he can do about that. He definitely looked a little shaky in the first half, but he lit it up in the second.
I just don't see Winston improving as much as Mariota can/will. Higher ceiling and floor for MM.
I just don't see Winston improving as much as Mariota can/will. Higher ceiling and floor for MM.
jurb26
Footballguy
Mariota may have a higher ceiling because of his athletic ability. There is no way he has a higher floor. Actually, I'd say Winston has a higher floor and ceiling. If he's 100% committed to football he's got more potential.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
If you don't factor in the inherent knucklehead risk. Sure.
jurb26
Footballguy
Kitrick Taylor
Footballguy
Think this is a bad QB class. Winston is far more pro ready, but the red flags are everywhere around this guy. He really needs to go to a strong organization that can get him headed in he right direction. Mariota seems like a very good athlete playing QB. I suppose if he goes to Tampa he'll have a shot because of the size of Evans, Vjax and ASJ, but he's gonna have to make NFL throws at some point. Not sure he can.
jurb26
Footballguy
Mariota did a nice job of overthrowing that 6'5" guy Oregon has but the TB receivers are already used to that.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Sure. But you also said higher floor.The ceiling by definition removes the risk.
If he wasn't a knuckle head, he'd be my top pick. But he's in some ways worse than Johnny.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
The ceiling by definition removes the risk.
jurb26
Footballguy
The floor is higher because you know he can operate in a NFL scheme.The ceiling by definition removes the risk.
mr roboto
Footballguy
His 'floor' is completely busting out due to immaturity or trying to play baseball. If he commits to football and keeps his nose clean his floor is higher.The floor is higher because you know he can operate in a NFL scheme.The ceiling by definition removes the risk.
