menobrown said:
Stinkin Ref said:
menobrown said:
False Start said:
So yout hink they brought in Daniels to help Kubiak and I'm crazy?
Owen Daniels is close to done as NFL player. That contract he got speaks volumes. He's not a threat to Pitta.
not so sure about this....
through 5 weeks last year (in a Kubiak offense) he put up (24-252-3)....including a team leading 6-60 against SF in the week 5 game where he was hurt....quite honestly he was on a pretty monster pace....
his former coach is now his OC and probably not a coincidence that he was brought in....
.appears Kubiak may disagree with your statement and fantasy wise that speaks more volumes than his contract.....money ain't everything in fantasy football....talent and opportunity are.....he has been a pretty solid player (talent), indications are he is healthy (as if it never happened)....and he is reunited with a coach/scheme that used him often (opportunity).....the production may not be there with Pitta maybe hogging catches, but if they use two TE's quite a bit.....I'm not so sure he is "done" and you should be writing him off as an after thought....he could dent Pitta's production, maybe even significantly.....I think he is a factor to consider....
A million bucks for a backup TE is not exactly disagreeing either. Texans cut him, he visited other teams but no one signed him. It's not like at his age he took a reduced contract as a prove it deal. He took it because that's all he could get.
No offense but I figured someone would introduce his 5 weeks or pick a season and go with it abbreviated state line. That's part of the problem. He's extremely similar to the guy he's replacing, Dallas Clark. Injuries have taken their toll and what's more if you ask them to do to much they won't last. Now I'll add I think he's abotu 1-2 years away from looking as bad as Clark did last season but pretty similar.
If Pitta gets hurt he could have value for a few weeks which is similar to a lot of backups. That's it. So maybe that's not done to you but I think he's
done as a starter, done as a guy you can count on more than for a few game stretch. Not done as a quality backup or guy who can produce for a few weeks. Great TE handcuff for Pitta owners. But as an NFL player I do believe this season or next will be his last.
Now it's "done as a starter".....well, no ####....
Oh wait....sorry it's actually done as a starter unless Pitta gets hurt.....
If Pitta goes out for the season in week 1, Daniels goes from the crapper to the penthouse and is probably the first waiver wire pick in every league and has a shot at serious production. Somebody that is "done" as a player (skills eroded, Dalls Clarkish, etc.) should not be able to make that kind of leap. If you want to say his fantasy situation is bleak, which is what you are back pedaling into....so be it, but his recent production indicates anything other than being "done".....dismiss that production and focus on who didn't sign him or the size of his contract if you chose....
this discussion actually started not really about Daniels, but his presence and effect on Pitta.....I don't have clue really at this point if BAL plans a bunch of two TE sets or what they plan on doing with Daniels, but based on Kubiak's past systems, I could see a niche carved out for Daniels....will it be production that makes Daniels noteworthy.....probably not....if they run some two TE's sets will it take away maybe some production from Pitta that he might normally get if he was the only TE on the field.....maybe....personally I think he was signed in that particular place because they plan on using him, not just to be Pitta's backup....I think Pitta takes more of a hit because of this......unlike had BAL not signed anybody of just stuck with Dickson...
oh and no offense taken....never do.....just discussion
..who else you got..... 
