Looting in Missouri after cops shoot 18 year old (2 Viewers)

jonessed said:

Gary Coal Man said:

Ketamine Dreams said:

Stinky bait indeed. No injustice. Brown was a robber and then fought with police. It's too bad that he chose that course, but when you do it may end badly and in this case it did. No martyr. No injustice. People are idiots for making him some kind of rallying-point.

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There was a flyer hanging in the breakroom at my work last week. The flyer was for a Ferguson commemoration/anti-police brutality protest this past Saturday. The flyer spoke of both the police murders of Mike Brown and Sandra Bland. The flyer contained a large photo of Mike Brown and the title across the top of the flyer in big, bold letters was "HONOR MIKE BROWN!"

When I came back into the breakroom later that day, the flyer was conspicuously missing from where it was previously hanging. I looked in the waste barrel and, sure enough, there it was partially crumpled up. Somebody obviously wasn't a fan of the "Honor Mike Brown" message.

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Are the protestors of the mind that Bland was killed by police? Seemed pretty definitive that she hung herself.

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Gary Coal Man said:

I'd also like to know more about this:

Post-Dispatch reporter recovering after attack while covering FergusonPost-Dispatch reporter Paul Hampel was beaten, bloodied and robbed by a group of attackers as he covered the Ferguson protests Sunday night.

Hampel said he was taking photos and videos of break-ins along West Florissant Avenue shortly before he was attacked. Suddenly, he said, he was rushed from behind.

"I got swarmed, beaten down really bad," he said.

The attackers punched him in the face, hit him in the head at least three times and kicked him in the back of the head when he was on the ground, Hampel said.

The attackers took his phone and wallet and left. Hampel headed back to the police line and encountered New York Times photographer Whitney Curtis. He told her he needed an ambulance.

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jonessed said:

Gary Coal Man said:

Ketamine Dreams said:

Stinky bait indeed. No injustice. Brown was a robber and then fought with police. It's too bad that he chose that course, but when you do it may end badly and in this case it did. No martyr. No injustice. People are idiots for making him some kind of rallying-point.

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There was a flyer hanging in the breakroom at my work last week. The flyer was for a Ferguson commemoration/anti-police brutality protest this past Saturday. The flyer spoke of both the police murders of Mike Brown and Sandra Bland. The flyer contained a large photo of Mike Brown and the title across the top of the flyer in big, bold letters was "HONOR MIKE BROWN!"

When I came back into the breakroom later that day, the flyer was conspicuously missing from where it was previously hanging. I looked in the waste barrel and, sure enough, there it was partially crumpled up. Somebody obviously wasn't a fan of the "Honor Mike Brown" message.

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Are the protestors of the mind that Bland was killed by police? Seemed pretty definitive that she hung herself.

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jon_mx said:

I want to know more about why Obama has his homeland security thugs out beating up innocent people and violating their first amendment rights!

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ShamrockPride said:

jon_mx said:

I want to know more about why Obama has his homeland security thugs out beating up innocent people and violating their first amendment rights!

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Wouldn't be a political thread without somebody blaming Obama!

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Gary Coal Man said:

I'd also like to know more about this:

Post-Dispatch reporter recovering after attack while covering FergusonPost-Dispatch reporter Paul Hampel was beaten, bloodied and robbed by a group of attackers as he covered the Ferguson protests Sunday night.

Hampel said he was taking photos and videos of break-ins along West Florissant Avenue shortly before he was attacked. Suddenly, he said, he was rushed from behind.

"I got swarmed, beaten down really bad," he said.

The attackers punched him in the face, hit him in the head at least three times and kicked him in the back of the head when he was on the ground, Hampel said.

The attackers took his phone and wallet and left. Hampel headed back to the police line and encountered New York Times photographer Whitney Curtis. He told her he needed an ambulance.

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"We are here to protest police unfairly treating us like common criminals by breaking into businesses and vandalizing stuff! Wait.. media here is taking pictures? ####... that's evidence. Snitches get stitches! Let's beat him unconscious and take his wallet and phone!"



You can't make this stuff up... Until black folks wake up and realize that many in their own ranks are their race's own worst enemy, and begin to direct some of the blame in that direction..... they're destined to be stuck with the perception they have now. Its unfair to cast a blanket perception, but the reality is that exists.

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Wrigley said:

ShamrockPride said:

jon_mx said:

I want to know more about why Obama has his homeland security thugs out beating up innocent people and violating their first amendment rights!

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Wouldn't be a political thread without somebody blaming Obama!

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Bush?

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jon_mx said:

I want to know more about why Obama has his homeland security thugs out beating up innocent people and violating their first amendment rights!

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timschochet said:

Look, some of these protestors (a minority of them) are acting very badly, and this seems to happen quite often, and it's terrible whenever it does, for lots of reasons. But it's not like these protests emerge out of thin air. This whole movement (Black Lives Matter) is a result of decades of blacks believing they are unfairly targeted by police. Michael Brown is obviously only one instance of that, but he's a famous instance, because he was unarmed, and the way he died caused a lot of people, including myself, to be highly suspicious of the police explanation.

These protests, and the resentment that is causing them, is going to go on and on and on until we as a society really try and do something about re-educating the police forces of this country not to tolerate the mistreatment of young blacks. Until that happens, there's always going to be unrest.

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timschochet said:

Look, some of these protestors (a minority of them) are acting very badly, and this seems to happen quite often, and it's terrible whenever it does, for lots of reasons. But it's not like these protests emerge out of thin air. This whole movement (Black Lives Matter) is a result of decades of blacks believing they are unfairly targeted by police. Michael Brown is obviously only one instance of that, but he's a famous instance, because he was unarmed, and the way he died caused a lot of people, including myself, to be highly suspicious of the police explanation.

These protests, and the resentment that is causing them, is going to go on and on and on until we as a society really try and do something about re-educating the police forces of this country not to tolerate the mistreatment of young blacks. Until that happens, there's always going to be unrest.

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Gary Coal Man said:

jonessed said:

Gary Coal Man said:

Ketamine Dreams said:

Stinky bait indeed. No injustice. Brown was a robber and then fought with police. It's too bad that he chose that course, but when you do it may end badly and in this case it did. No martyr. No injustice. People are idiots for making him some kind of rallying-point.

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There was a flyer hanging in the breakroom at my work last week. The flyer was for a Ferguson commemoration/anti-police brutality protest this past Saturday. The flyer spoke of both the police murders of Mike Brown and Sandra Bland. The flyer contained a large photo of Mike Brown and the title across the top of the flyer in big, bold letters was "HONOR MIKE BROWN!"

When I came back into the breakroom later that day, the flyer was conspicuously missing from where it was previously hanging. I looked in the waste barrel and, sure enough, there it was partially crumpled up. Somebody obviously wasn't a fan of the "Honor Mike Brown" message.

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Are the protestors of the mind that Bland was killed by police? Seemed pretty definitive that she hung herself.

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There are protestors who not only think the police murdered Bland, there are protestors who think Bland was already dead in her musghot and the police took a picture of her corpse.

Social media speculates whether Bland is dead in mugshot

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timschochet said:

Look, some of these protestors (a minority of them) are acting very badly, and this seems to happen quite often, and it's terrible whenever it does, for lots of reasons. But it's not like these protests emerge out of thin air. This whole movement (Black Lives Matter) is a result of decades of blacks believing they are unfairly targeted by police. Michael Brown is obviously only one instance of that, but he's a famous instance, because he was unarmed, and the way he died caused a lot of people, including myself, to be highly suspicious of the police explanation.

These protests, and the resentment that is causing them, is going to go on and on and on until we as a society really try and do something about re-educating the police forces of this country not to tolerate the mistreatment of young blacks. Until that happens, there's always going to be unrest.

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whoknew said:

Yea the St Louis County cops and prosecutors are heroes.

Washington Post Reporter Charged:



A Washington Post reporter who was arrested at a restaurant last year while reporting on protests in Ferguson, Mo., has been charged in St. Louis County with trespassing and interfering with a police officer and ordered to appear in court.



Wesley Lowery, a reporter on The Posts national desk, was detained in a McDonalds while he was in Missouri covering demonstrations sparked by a white police officer fatally shooting an unarmed black 18-year-old.



A court summons dated Aug. 6 just under a year after Lowerys arrest was sent to Lowery, 25, ordering him to appear in a St. Louis County municipal court on Aug. 24. The summons notes that he could be arrested if he does not appear.

Charging a reporter with trespassing and interfering with a police officer when he was just doing his job is outrageous, Martin Baron, executive editor of The Post, said in a statement Monday. Youd have thought law enforcement authorities would have come to their senses about this incident. Wes Lowery should never have been arrested in the first place. That was an abuse of police authority.This latest action represents contemptible overreaching by prosecutors who seem to have no regard for the role of journalists seeking to cover a major story and following normal practice, Baron continued.



According to the summons, Lowery is being charged with trespassing on private property despite being asked to leave. He is also charged with interfering with a police officers performance of his duties because, the summons alleges, he failed to comply with repeated commands to immediately exit the restaurant.



Several St. Louis County police officers are listed on the summons as witnesses in the case. A county police spokesman referred a request for comment to the St. Louis County counselors office, which in turn transferred the request to Cordell Whitlock, a spokesman for the St. Louis County executive.



Whitlock confirmed that the summons is legitimate and, when asked whether the county had any comment on the charges, called the issue a pending legal matter and said an attorney for Lowery could call to get the relevant reports and paperwork. In addition, Whitlock said he did not know why the decision to charge Lowery took this long.

These counts carry a possible fine of $1,000 and up to a year in a county jail, according to the St. Louis County municipal code.





I maintained from the first day that our detention was illegal and unnecessary, Lowery, who is in Ferguson covering demonstrations there, said in a telephone interview Monday. So I was surprised that a year later this is something officials in St. Louis County decided was worth revisiting.



Lowery and Ryan Reilly, a journalist with the Huffington Post, were handcuffed last August inside a McDonalds that reporters had been using as a staging area while covering the Ferguson protests.



Reilly said Monday that he had not received a court summons but was expecting to be charged as well.



In an account Lowery gave after he was released, officers came inside the McDonalds and asked him and Reilly for identification. A little later, police officers ordered them to leave.



Lowery said he was given conflicting information about where to exit and was attempting to gather his bag when officers grabbed him, slammed him into a soda machine and placed plastic cuffs on him. Reilly, speaking to the Huffington Post last year, said the police gave the reporters a countdown like we were 5-year-olds.



Both reporters were taken by police to a holding cell at the Ferguson police station, while news of their arrests quickly spread over social media. A reporter for the Los Angeles Times said he contacted then-Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson about the arrests, and about half an hour after their arrival, Lowery and Reilly were told that all media members could leave without any charges filed.



The chief thought he was doing you two a favor, one officer said, according to Lowerys account.



Michael Calderone of the Huffington Post first reported last month that St. Louis County was still considering whether to charge Lowery and Reilly.

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Widbil83 said:

Here we go again-

"But the father of the suspect, 18-year-old Tyrone Harris Jr., called the police version of events a bunch of lies. He said his son was unarmed and had been drawn into a dispute involving two groups of young people."

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2015/08/10/father-of-ferguson-shooting-suspect-police-version-of-events-bunch-of-lies/

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timschochet said:

Look, some of these protestors (a minority of them) are acting very badly, and this seems to happen quite often, and it's terrible whenever it does, for lots of reasons. But it's not like these protests emerge out of thin air. This whole movement (Black Lives Matter) is a result of decades of blacks believing they are unfairly targeted by police. Michael Brown is obviously only one instance of that, but he's a famous instance, because he was unarmed, and the way he died caused a lot of people, including myself, to be highly suspicious of the police explanation.

These protests, and the resentment that is causing them, is going to go on and on and on until we as a society really try and do something about re-educating the police forces of this country not to tolerate the mistreatment of young blacks. Until that happens, there's always going to be unrest.

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jonessed said:

Widbil83 said:

Here we go again-

"But the father of the suspect, 18-year-old Tyrone Harris Jr., called the police version of events a bunch of lies. He said his son was unarmed and had been drawn into a dispute involving two groups of young people."

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2015/08/10/father-of-ferguson-shooting-suspect-police-version-of-events-bunch-of-lies/

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He wasn't even there

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Courtjester said:

timschochet said:

Look, some of these protestors (a minority of them) are acting very badly, and this seems to happen quite often, and it's terrible whenever it does, for lots of reasons. But it's not like these protests emerge out of thin air. This whole movement (Black Lives Matter) is a result of decades of blacks believing they are unfairly targeted by police. Michael Brown is obviously only one instance of that, but he's a famous instance, because he was unarmed, and the way he died caused a lot of people, including myself, to be highly suspicious of the police explanation.

These protests, and the resentment that is causing them, is going to go on and on and on until we as a society really try and do something about re-educating the police forces of this country not to tolerate the mistreatment of young blacks. Until that happens, there's always going to be unrest.

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You know what is funny about this is when we have a lone POS like Dylan Roof, the President calls for a national discussion on race in this country and everyone starts calling for a protest.Yet, every time we have African Americans doing something bad (like last night), the narrative that is pushed is this is just a small minority and we shouldn't judge the whole by the actions of a few.

You simply cannot have it both ways.

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Billy Bats said:

timschochet said:

Look, some of these protestors (a minority of them) are acting very badly, and this seems to happen quite often, and it's terrible whenever it does, for lots of reasons. But it's not like these protests emerge out of thin air. This whole movement (Black Lives Matter) is a result of decades of blacks believing they are unfairly targeted by police. Michael Brown is obviously only one instance of that, but he's a famous instance, because he was unarmed, and the way he died caused a lot of people, including myself, to be highly suspicious of the police explanation.

These protests, and the resentment that is causing them, is going to go on and on and on until we as a society really try and do something about re-educating the police forces of this country not to tolerate the mistreatment of young blacks. Until that happens, there's always going to be unrest.

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Obviously http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1c_I841J6_M

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Rayderr said:

Ketamine Dreams said:

timschochet said:

Hang 10 said:

timschochet said:

I still believe, one year later, that Michael Brown was wrongfully killed by a police officer.

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At least take the time to bait the hook, geez.

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No, there's no hook, no bait, nothing. It's all been discussed here before.I just think that this was a case of injustice. And that there is a certain moral right on the protestors' side.

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Stinky bait indeed. No injustice. Brown was a robber and then fought with police. It's too bad that he chose that course, but when you do it may end badly and in this case it did. No martyr. No injustice. People are idiots for making him some kind of rallying-point.

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yeah, I really don't get why Michael Brown is the person everyone is standing behind. Tamir Rice would be a far better person to use as their rallying point. Wasn't doing anything wrong, and pretty clear evidence that the cops acted wrongly.

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ShamrockPride said:

jon_mx said:

I want to know more about why Obama has his homeland security thugs out beating up innocent people and violating their first amendment rights!

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Wouldn't be a political thread without somebody blaming Obama!

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jon_mx said:

whoknew said:

Yea the St Louis County cops and prosecutors are heroes.

Washington Post Reporter Charged:

A Washington Post reporter who was arrested at a restaurant last year while reporting on protests in Ferguson, Mo., has been charged in St. Louis County with trespassing and interfering with a police officer and ordered to appear in court.



Wesley Lowery, a reporter on The Posts national desk, was detained in a McDonalds while he was in Missouri covering demonstrations sparked by a white police officer fatally shooting an unarmed black 18-year-old.



A court summons dated Aug. 6 just under a year after Lowerys arrest was sent to Lowery, 25, ordering him to appear in a St. Louis County municipal court on Aug. 24. The summons notes that he could be arrested if he does not appear.



Charging a reporter with trespassing and interfering with a police officer when he was just doing his job is outrageous, Martin Baron, executive editor of The Post, said in a statement Monday. Youd have thought law enforcement authorities would have come to their senses about this incident. Wes Lowery should never have been arrested in the first place. That was an abuse of police authority.This latest action represents contemptible overreaching by prosecutors who seem to have no regard for the role of journalists seeking to cover a major story and following normal practice, Baron continued.

According to the summons, Lowery is being charged with trespassing on private property despite being asked to leave. He is also charged with interfering with a police officers performance of his duties because, the summons alleges, he failed to comply with repeated commands to immediately exit the restaurant.



Several St. Louis County police officers are listed on the summons as witnesses in the case. A county police spokesman referred a request for comment to the St. Louis County counselors office, which in turn transferred the request to Cordell Whitlock, a spokesman for the St. Louis County executive.



Whitlock confirmed that the summons is legitimate and, when asked whether the county had any comment on the charges, called the issue a pending legal matter and said an attorney for Lowery could call to get the relevant reports and paperwork. In addition, Whitlock said he did not know why the decision to charge Lowery took this long.



These counts carry a possible fine of $1,000 and up to a year in a county jail, according to the St. Louis County municipal code.



I maintained from the first day that our detention was illegal and unnecessary, Lowery, who is in Ferguson covering demonstrations there, said in a telephone interview Monday. So I was surprised that a year later this is something officials in St. Louis County decided was worth revisiting.



Lowery and Ryan Reilly, a journalist with the Huffington Post, were handcuffed last August inside a McDonalds that reporters had been using as a staging area while covering the Ferguson protests.



Reilly said Monday that he had not received a court summons but was expecting to be charged as well.



In an account Lowery gave after he was released, officers came inside the McDonalds and asked him and Reilly for identification. A little later, police officers ordered them to leave.



Lowery said he was given conflicting information about where to exit and was attempting to gather his bag when officers grabbed him, slammed him into a soda machine and placed plastic cuffs on him. Reilly, speaking to the Huffington Post last year, said the police gave the reporters a countdown like we were 5-year-olds.



Both reporters were taken by police to a holding cell at the Ferguson police station, while news of their arrests quickly spread over social media. A reporter for the Los Angeles Times said he contacted then-Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson about the arrests, and about half an hour after their arrival, Lowery and Reilly were told that all media members could leave without any charges filed.



The chief thought he was doing you two a favor, one officer said, according to Lowerys account.



Michael Calderone of the Huffington Post first reported last month that St. Louis County was still considering whether to charge Lowery and Reilly.

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Reading that comes across as so one-sides. There was not even the slightest attempt at telling both sides of the story.

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avoiding injuries said:

@stlcountypd: Unruly crowd is throwing frozen water bottles at officers. Those who choose to act violently will be arrested. 11:10pm

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Billy Bats said:

I hear ya Sheriff Clarke.

http://nation.foxnews.com/2015/08/10/sheriff-clarke-ferguson-coming-city-near-you

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Billy Bats said:

I hear ya Sheriff Clarke.

http://nation.foxnews.com/2015/08/10/sheriff-clarke-ferguson-coming-city-near-you

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